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"RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER" KILLS HIS OWN SON

ProudProgressive 2012/07/23 20:53:05

In the wake of the tragic mass murder in Colorado, the Right Wing Media has been in overdrive denying that allowing anyone who wants one to buy an assault rifle capable of killing 50 people a minute isn't dangerous, making up lies about the shooter being a registered Democrat (he isn't; in fact it doesn't appear that he's registered to vote at all), reviving the delusional "Obama wants to take everyone's guns away" bullsh*t, and even (thank you Alex Jones, for proving that even a psychotic can have his very own website) that the President was behind the shootings as part of the vast conspiracy to take everyone's guns away (just as Fast and Furious was part of the vast conspiracy even though Alberto Gonzales wrote the plan for Fast and Furious). We hear once again the tired line that "responsible gun owners" would never allow something like the Colorado shootings to have occurred.

The fact is that there really is no such thing as a "responsible gun owner". If you own a gun, you are a potential murderer. Period.

A "RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER" WOULD NOT KILL HIS OWN SON, WOULD HE?????

Article excerpt follows:

NY State Cop Accidentally Shoots And Kills Own Son
By Wendy Gittleson
July 23, 2012

A New York police officer was on a casual motorcycle trip with his son and a group of other men, when he shot his son dead, thinking he was an intruder.

From Raw Story:

Village of Perry Officer Michael Leach, 59, was sleeping at around 12:50 a.m. on Saturday morning when he was awakened by someone entering his Old Forge hotel room. Thinking the person was an intruder, Leach fired one shot, killing his 37-year-old son Matthew, according to The Observer-Dispatch.

Michael Leach called 911 and stated that he had shot an intruder.

Matthew Leach was later pronounced dead St. Elizabeth Medical Center. The father was taken to Faxton St. Luke’s Healthcare for an unspecified medical issue.

While police are investigating the incident, it’s likely that it will be declared an accidental shooting.

Obviously, words can’t express the grief and guilt this father must be feeling, but in the wake of the Aurora, CO shooting, it does highlight a common argument in the gun control debate. After every shooting tragedy in the US, it seems that the pro-gun argument is that responsible gun owners would have helped mitigate the situation. Aurora was no exception, despite the fact that the shooter, dressed in black, filled the dark theater with smoke. Without night vision goggles, it’s unfathomable how more guns would have led to fewer victims.

Pending knowing the details of Officer Leach, it’s not a stretch to believe that he is a “responsible” gun owner, trained to handle and carry a gun with near perfect accuracy and without accidental mishap. The fact is, people, no matter how well-trained, are fallible. Sure, while it might literally be true that people kill people, guns are lethal. All it takes is a split-second reaction to either create or exacerbate a deadly tragedy.


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  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/07/23 21:01:08
    NarcolepticGoat
    +16
    Here's the thing. Every gun owner thinks they are too competent to do that kind of thing. Sort of like every driver thinks they are good at driving,

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  • Sissy Melizmatic 2012/08/21 12:51:14
    Sissy
    +1
    I was just going to give him the same graphic.
  • Samantha 2012/07/23 20:58:36
    Samantha
    +8
    I think if you looked at the statistics you'd find the majority of people who die from gunshot wounds are murdered/killed by someone they know. If I may add, someone commented in anther discussion that guns don't kill people, people kill people and then used the knife, baseball bat, flung against the wall examples. I think they buy those awful examples from the same Wal-Mart shelf they buy their crazy conspiracy theories and racism. I commented, correctly, the difference is the lethal power of guns. Had Holmes entered the theater with a baseball bat, he couldn't have killed or injured 70 people. The baseball bat, knife examples are just distractions from the real issues, namely the lethal power of guns and the terrible gun culture in this country.
  • darcie ... Samantha 2012/07/23 21:21:32
    darcie lamar
    +3
    Mass murders can be from airplanes (9/11); fertilizer (Timothy McVay); Lethal gases (Iraq). If that idiot wanted to murder his son he could have used his car like the father of the two Muslim's girls were murdered with, a knife, and many other objects that are easily available. You libs have no right to restrict our Second Amendment right to arm ourselves. I have had to shoot a guy who broke into my home once. Who knows what would have happened if I didn't have a gun to protect myself.
  • Samantha darcie ... 2012/07/23 21:53:14
    Samantha
    +5
    Oh please, stop trying to defend the gun culture. For your information, the Second Amendment, and for that matter none of the Bill of Rights, is absolute. Congress could, if it had the political will, enact gun control legislation tomorrow.

    "I have had to shoot a guy who broke into my home once."

    According to you! However, unless you post the police report or newspaper article with a clear indication it refers to you, I'm not buying gun culture propaganda.

    Conservatives attempting to use the knife, baseball argument exhibit how out of touch with reality they are. With one hundred round ammunition drums and clips holding a dozen or more rounds of ammunition, guns are far more lethal than a baseball bat. Your attempt, and that of other conservatives, who attempt to use this stupid analogy, one you most likely bought from the same Wal-Mart shelf you purchase your lies, crazy conspiracy theories and racist birtherism, are proving that conservatives can't connect with reality and are attempting, lamely, to defend a gun culture that is creating much pain and suffering in this country.

    I did notice you couldn't resist slamming Muslims while ignoring Christian terrorists like Paul Hill, the Christian who murdered Dr. George Tiller and all the other Christian terrorists.
  • Evil 1 Samantha 2012/07/23 22:07:52
  • Samantha Evil 1 2012/07/23 22:09:54 (edited)
    Samantha
    +3
    Are you five years old? It revealing you didn't attempt to deal with facts.

    Conservatives-Our Bridge To The 11th Century
  • Evil 1 Samantha 2012/07/23 22:12:18
    Evil 1
    +2
    Nope. Just wanted to repsond so someone of your challenged intelligence would be able to understand. If you're still having a problem I'll see it Dr. Seuss has something for you to read.
  • santa6642 Samantha 2012/07/23 22:24:20
    santa6642
    +1
    dumb just got dumber.
  • Samantha santa6642 2012/07/24 17:00:10
    Samantha
    You shouldn't say bad things about Evil.
  • darcie ... Samantha 2012/07/23 22:39:16
    darcie lamar
    I didn't slam Muslims. I remember the terror those poor girls suffered as their father murdered them with a car. Get over yourself.
  • Samantha darcie ... 2012/07/24 17:01:34
    Samantha
    What you tried to do is use dumb analogies, you probably purchased at Wal-Mart, to make excuses for the violent American gun culture. If you don't understand the lethal difference between a knife and a 100-round ammunition drum, no one could possibly help you.
  • Rusty B... Samantha 2012/07/23 22:51:41
    Rusty Bubbles
    The First Amendment and for that matter none of the Bill of Rights, is absolute. Congress could, if it had the political will, enact speech control legislation tomorrow


    ....careful where you tread
  • Samantha Rusty B... 2012/07/24 17:01:44
    Samantha
    I'm correct.
  • Rusty B... Samantha 2012/07/24 19:57:54
    Rusty Bubbles
    You are, they can attempt to take away our freedom of speech, our guns, our right to unlawful search and seizure, instill cruel and unusual punishment, and so on.......and that's why we have the right of the people to keep and bear arms
  • Samantha Rusty B... 2012/07/24 20:38:59
    Samantha
    Are you advocating armed rebellion against the U.S. government? If so, please try, and I promise to visit you in person. It's always funny when conservatives leave out the most important part of the Second Amendment. In fact, conservatives don't understand the amendment and, in fact, the amendment itself disproves conservative positions on guns.
  • Rusty B... Samantha 2012/07/24 20:46:07
    Rusty Bubbles
    Sweetheart, I told you once before that you're in college (hopefully not some Matchbook-U) for the same reason you went to grade school.
    You are very ignorant and a good education will start you on the path to correct that.
    But a good education is only the beginning, it is the foundation that you will build upon with work, family, personal responsibilities, and experiences that you've yet to realize even exist.
  • Samantha Rusty B... 2012/07/24 20:48:34
    Samantha
    It's so funny when conservatives begin insults; it means I've won the argument. Your post is condescending, and it's obvious I have a better grasp of reality than you.

    It's interesting you didn't directly answer my question about whether you're advocating armed rebellion.

    Furthermore, I can support my comment about conservatives not understanding the Second Amendment undermines their gun culture.
  • Rusty B... Samantha 2012/07/24 20:53:48
    Rusty Bubbles
    I made no insults made towards you. I said you were ignorant and you are. Now, had I said you were "stupid", that would be an insult.

    One conveys the ability to learn, the other; not so much


    The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

    Congress of the United States
    begun and held at the City of New-York, on
    Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
  • Samantha Rusty B... 2012/07/24 21:16:31
    Samantha
    Yes, you did insult me, so you lost the argument. As I said, the Second Amendment destroys conservative claims about guns.
  • Rusty B... Samantha 2012/07/24 21:20:33
    Rusty Bubbles
    "Second Amendment destroys conservative claims about guns".....Prove it
    Give it your best shot (pun intended) and I'll shoot it down hard


    BTW.... I'm wondering about this part of your post further up:
    "and I promise to visit you in person."...and do what....flash me, show me your panties?
    Just wonderin'
    ;o)~
  • Samantha Rusty B... 2012/07/24 21:26:25 (edited)
    Samantha
    You can't. The Second Amendment clearly destroys conservative gun beliefs. Conservatives typically quote the second part of the amendment and omit the first. The first phrase clearly means Congress has the power to regulate ownership of guns and, furthermore, to possess one a person must belong to a militia. Easy enough to do in the eighteenth century.

    However, the National Guard, under the control of governors except when federalized, has replaced state militias. Therefore, the conservative argument that every person is a member of a militia is wrong in modern America.

    The conservative argument about guns is a complete lie.

    Since you chose to be vulgar, I'll use the block option because you've proven to be a conservative misogynist but, then, conservatives are waging war against women.

    You're not smart enough to be part of my world!

    You can't disprove my post because there are no facts to support your crazy conservative beliefs nor your false beliefs about guns and the constitution.
  • Rusty B... Rusty B... 2012/07/24 21:34:10
    Rusty Bubbles
    Sweetheart, I knew you couldn't even before I asked the question, Arguments from stupid children such as you are so easy to destroy.
    But cheer up sweetheart, someday you'll be working full time, paying a mortgage, bills, car payments, insurance payments, buying clothes & food, and, dare I say.....raise a family. At that point that foundation I spoke of earlier will begin to take shape
  • santa6642 darcie ... 2012/07/23 22:26:32 (edited)
    santa6642
    +1
    God bless you., A loaded firearm is a useful tool ., An unloaded firearm is an ornament of no use.
  • darcie ... santa6642 2012/07/23 22:41:48
    darcie lamar
    Thanks, I would never want to kill someone, but I sure want to defend myself and my family. My situation happened when I was only 18 and just moved out of my family home to be on my own. My father taught me well to defend myself, he was a policeman. : )
  • prayer ... darcie ... 2012/07/23 23:14:35
    prayer warrior
    +1
    Well I want a certain type of control and that is that the gun owners need proper training. My kids and ex have all been trained. Two trained in police academy. Then my son was trianed in the military and my daughter police academy/military. I was trained in police academy.

    I do believe an assault weapon is dangerous because in that case the police are outgunned
  • prayer ... darcie ... 2012/07/23 23:09:14
    prayer warrior
    +1
    I am not sure if people are talking about guns or the type of guns that are sold. I own several gunsfrom a 38, glock, and two shotguns. The issue is who should own a gun and do they get proper training
  • darcie ... prayer ... 2012/07/24 00:16:33
    darcie lamar
    +1
    I am in favor of gun safety classes and background checks for gun owners.
  • prayer ... darcie ... 2012/07/24 00:20:51
    prayer warrior
    +1
    That makes complete sense.
  • Giantfan darcie ... 2012/07/24 19:42:53
    Giantfan
    Every year 30,000 americans die from gunshot wounds so in 2 years more people die then in all of Viet Nam, 58,000 dead.
  • Giantfan darcie ... 2012/07/24 19:43:28
    Giantfan
    PS we libs are gun owners too. We're just smarter at it.
  • Tee Quake 2012/07/23 20:56:46
    Tee Quake
    +1
    terribly sad

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