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Republicans Start to Panic as ObamaCare Reaches 50% Approval

ProudProgressive 2012/07/02 23:26:12
My apologies. The title is a little misleading. To say that the Republicans are STARTING to panic now that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act's constitutionality has been protected would ignore the last three years of deliberate and profound Right Wing disinformation on the subject. Remember, they were repeat winners of Politifact's Lie of the Year Award for "Death Panels" and "Government Takeover of Health Care." This year's early entrant seems to be "largest tax increase in American history", even though it's actually the largest middle class tax CUT in history. But would anyone expect anything different from a party that considers having 30 million uninsured people in this country "not an issue".

From the start, it's been obvious that the more people know about this law, the more they support it. The Right Wing has run out of lies, and the message is finally getting through. I almost think we should send John Roberts a thank you note. Well, maybe not, but that's for another thread.

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Republicans Start to Panic as ObamaCare Reaches 50% Approval
By: Jason Easley
July 2, 2012

According to a new CNN poll, Americans are still divided on ObamaCare. Fifty percent of those surveyed agreeing with the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the law, while 49% disagreed. This represents a two point increase from a Reuters/Ipsos poll released yesterday that found that 48% support the Affordable Care Act. Support for the ACA has increased from 34% in the fall of 2011 to 43% before the Supreme Court decision to 50% supporting the court's decision today.

Republicans quickly tried to turn their Supreme Court defeat into political ammunition by reviving many of the same attacks they used against the ACA in 2009 and 2010. GOP congressional leaders like Mitch McConnell and John Boehner revived their government takeover of healthcare talking points and called for immediate repeal of the law, but a funny thing is happening on the way back in time to 2010.

Support for the law, and the decision that ruled the law constitutional, is growing. Instead of emptily repeating the Republican cries for repeal, the media has been asking the GOP exactly what they intend to replace ObamaCare with.

When pressured by Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday on what he was going to do about the uninsured if he repealed the ACA, Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell got flustered and stated that the uninsured in America aren't an issue. As bad as McConnell's performance was, he was outdone by Speaker of the House John Boehner. Speaker Boehner was left clinging to his general talking points about common sense reform as CBS's Norah O'Donnell continued to pressure him to specifically state what parts of the ACA he would keep, and which parts he would repeal.

Boehner was so broken by the whole experience that a few times during the interview he actually raised his voice and yelled his answers at O'Donnell. Evidence of the GOP backtracking on the ACA can be found in the fact that when pressed Boehner and McConnell both admitted that there are good points in the law that should not be repealed.

The Republican answer to the ACA is repeal and replace, but things quickly fall apart when they asked the question, replace with what? The fact that the ACA has gone from being widely unpopular to a virtual 50/50 split in the days since the Supreme Court decision is a major problem for the GOP, and odds are that the law is going to continue to grow in popularity as insured Americans begin to receive their share of the $1.1 billion in insurance premium rebates.

Time and political momentum are working against those who are advocating for repeal. There was panic in Boehner and McConnell's interviews, and that panic will only grow if the public continues to get comfortable with "ObamaCare."

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  • luvguins 2012/07/02 23:59:53
    luvguins
    +11
    Weeper Boehner, and plastic face McConnell really looked pathetic on those shows on Sunday. I remember after the first repeal vote in the House last year Boehner was asked what their plan was, and his reply was. "We're going to have a meeting about that"...LOL.
    They have no intention if in power to spend anytime replacing the ACA if they can make it all go away. Meanwhile independents approval of the ACA has jumped 11% since the decision. Plus the president is still leading Romney in all the swing states. Seems folks aren't beleiving the same old tired rhetoric from 2 years ago nor Rush Limbaugh who wailed to his ditto heads that it was "the largest tax increase in the world".

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  • Sir Bud. AL 2012/07/06 12:10:33
  • my2cents AL 2012/07/06 16:12:53
    my2cents
    +2
    Geez, you don't follow anything, do you?

    Go back to the right wing blog site from whence you came.
  • my2cents AL 2012/07/06 16:09:47
    my2cents
    +1
    Go back to the right wing blog site where you got this.
  • aneed2know my2cents 2012/07/03 10:05:00
    aneed2know
    +2
    yeah they do. It is funny though. And i can tell you 600.00 a month is a helluva lot better than paying what people pay now.
  • Defend ... aneed2know 2012/07/03 11:34:09
    Defend Western Civlization
    +1
    Well guess what the States will laugh in the face of obama and tell him to get lost
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/03 15:40:17
    Sir Bud.
    $60.
  • Ricardo... Sir Bud. 2012/07/03 22:55:11
    RicardoCabeza
    Is that a $60.00 fee for cancelling coverage on My 3 employees, or is that $60.00 per month for the person earning $24,000.00 per year?... I have heard it is $600.00 from a financial advisor, and my recently suicidal Neighbour who just discovered that His new found career will not cover the basics of food, rent and gas if He has to pay for the Obama plan.
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/03 22:59:37
  • Ricardo... Sir Bud. 2012/07/06 09:47:19
    RicardoCabeza
    This is just feel good propaganda that I would not mind seeing manifest, but I think in the end the outcome will be as gloomy as I have indicated in my previous posts.
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/07 13:08:15
  • Ricardo... Sir Bud. 2012/07/08 22:55:53
    RicardoCabeza
    I do not go to links as a rule... unless they are prefaced by an explanation... so please simply paraphrase the information that you feel is so pertinent to the debate and leave the links out.
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/09 22:15:55
    Sir Bud.
    We dont"go to links",-we do a half second click with the mouse to view information.Whoever hasn't got time or cant be bothered to do that, is not worth my time.
  • Ricardo... Sir Bud. 2012/07/11 21:04:44
    RicardoCabeza
    Paraphrase, I am not going to bother with a propaganda site.
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/12 12:20:58 (edited)
    Sir Bud.
    Propaganda site-the Anglo FILE Business Directory!?.LOL.
  • Ricardo... Sir Bud. 2012/07/12 22:08:02
    RicardoCabeza
    I could almost be a Christian Scientist, as I really think there have been few true advances in Western Medicine since Archimedes, and as my years indicate the only thing that has saved Me has been a few good field Medics and whole lot of salt. Obamacare will only prove to be a windfall for the insurance industry, for bean counters that have infiltrated the determination of US health care, and for silly feeble minded mud people who think the US doctor's office is a place that provides a panacea of Health Care as opposed to Vivisection. and experimentation.
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/12 23:49:51
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    The basics in very simple generally speaking and in very short;

    The more clever people are,the better paid jobs they will get-the more money they will earn-the more things they will be able to afford.The less clever people are-the lesser paid jobs they will get-the less they will be able to afford.

    A country to be proud of-is a country that makes sure that every one of her citizens,-regardless of their intelligence,capability and financial situation accordingly, always receives their needed individual medical treatment and care.The general welfare of a nation should not be balanced to reward more the wealthy and restrict more the poorer.

    When a person does not have health insurance(like in the middle ages)and needs medical care and cannot afford the costs aka cannot afford the needed quality medical treatment,-the care and treatment still has to be paid for(Presuming the Paramedics,Doctors,Nurses and Surgeons etc will not turn patients away nor pay for the patients treatment themselves).

    The information on just the one page of the link you refuse to read shows how easy and FAIR it is for a country to have 95% of it's citizens covered with health and Social(and pension)insurance.It also shows that there is no need to fine anyone for not being insured-as those who are in a situation...
    The basics in very simple generally speaking and in very short;

    The more clever people are,the better paid jobs they will get-the more money they will earn-the more things they will be able to afford.The less clever people are-the lesser paid jobs they will get-the less they will be able to afford.

    A country to be proud of-is a country that makes sure that every one of her citizens,-regardless of their intelligence,capability and financial situation accordingly, always receives their needed individual medical treatment and care.The general welfare of a nation should not be balanced to reward more the wealthy and restrict more the poorer.

    When a person does not have health insurance(like in the middle ages)and needs medical care and cannot afford the costs aka cannot afford the needed quality medical treatment,-the care and treatment still has to be paid for(Presuming the Paramedics,Doctors,Nurses and Surgeons etc will not turn patients away nor pay for the patients treatment themselves).

    The information on just the one page of the link you refuse to read shows how easy and FAIR it is for a country to have 95% of it's citizens covered with health and Social(and pension)insurance.It also shows that there is no need to fine anyone for not being insured-as those who are in a situation(whether temporary or not)unable to meet the monthly costs of Health insurance(Is always in % according to the gross monthly salary) are then automatically covered by the States Health Insurance for example when unemployed.END.
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  • Ricardo... Sir Bud. 2012/07/13 00:15:08 (edited)
    RicardoCabeza
    +1
    Okay, thank you... and I am not opposed to health care for the impoverished masses, simply put I think that the current US health care model is a foolish and predatory system that exists to serve itself not the population. The current US health care system is instead a systematic money drain that frequently ignores curative therapies and offers instead a panacea of compounds and treatments that exacerbate and precipitate other revenue generating conditions... My opinion is that save for a relatively few Physicians and organizations that actually attempt to practice their Hippocratic oath the system is rife with the goals of fulfilling the pecuniary aims of an oligarchial system which has seized control of our US Health Care system... Obamacare rewards the worst portions of this already indentured system and offers the compulsory collection of the citizen's wealth to propagate the abhorrent bastardization of medical care which is run by Business men instead of Physicians... it is this system which for the most part is best avoided if one wishes to remain healthy.
  • Sir Bud. Ricardo... 2012/07/13 00:38:08
    Sir Bud.
    I understand what you are saying,but you go down another road,though parallel if you like.So lastly,I will just say-compared to the way things were before and to my knowledge personally since the late 1960's-,Obama in my opinion has taken a move for the better.Oh and recently I discovered that the so called Hippocratic Oath has been altered and there now seems to be several versions in circulation of which several can only be best described as perverted and a down right disgrace when considering the traditional modern original.
  • Pet Rock Whisperer 2012/07/03 01:56:45 (edited)
    Pet Rock Whisperer
    +2
    Not that the Dems are much better, but Repubs.... They'd F up a crowbar on a sand pile.
  • Rebel [SHP] 2012/07/03 01:43:04
    Rebel [SHP]
    You might want to update your lies PP.....

    While the Supreme Court declared that the president’s health care law is constitutional, they were unable to make it popular. Fifty-two percent (52%) still favor repeal of the law. That’s little changed from a week ago and little changed since the law was passed more than two years ago. However, while most voters still hope for repeal, the belief that it will happen has fallen sharply. Just 39% now believe repeal is even somewhat likely, down from 61% last week.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.c...
  • DougE 2012/07/03 01:30:22 (edited)
    DougE
    +1
    I'm glad you progressives got your way, cause I'm quite sure you morally bankrupt liberals pay taxes too, we'll see how great you think it is when medicare is gone, we have extened waits to be seen by a specialist, and a government regulator tells you that you can't have a surgery or medication cause you're not useful anymore. Best way to get a bad law changed is to follow it to the letter. And I guess you don't listen to Obama's advisors when they admit that the will have to be rationaing. Perhaps you should get out a bit more.
  • Dodgerfan DougE 2012/07/03 02:54:10
    Dodgerfan
    And I wish these same people would watch a comedy show that I posted recently from the BBC. It detailed quite honestly how the Brits feel about their National Health Plan. The show is FROM THE MANOR BORN and can be found by clicking my SH name and looking under questions asked.
  • Sir Bud. Dodgerfan 2012/07/07 13:15:43
    Sir Bud.
    The British Nat Health has been raped by both the New Labor and Con parties since Maggie Thatcher way back in the early 1980's.Privatization has screwed it.It is no longer anything like it was originally which was to make sure EVERYBODY could get"free"medical care.It is a NOW a catastrophe and why the American Cons like to bring it up while avoiding the successful version of the same in Germany.
    "The German social security system covers unemployment, health, pension, sickness, and carer's insurance, as well as maternity benefits and child allowances and is funded by contributions from the employed, employers and self-employed as well as the state, in four insurance schemes:

    * Health insurance (Krankenversicherung)
    * Unemployment insurance (Arbeitslosenversicherung)
    * Nursing care insurance (Pflegeversicherung)
    * Pension insurance (Rentenversicherung)

    The people covered are:

    * Employed persons (including apprentices)
    * Most self-employed persons
    * Carers for children under the age of three
    * Recipients of social benefits (for example unemployment benefit)
    * Conscripted soldiers or those doing community service instead of military service.".
    http://berlin.angloinfo.com/c...
  • Dodgerfan Sir Bud. 2012/07/09 08:55:08
    Dodgerfan
    Tell me something that Americans don't already know. When you get government intervention into any sector of the economy the costs go up and the quality goes down. The bureaucrats that facilitate the programs are raking off billions that could have gone directly to those who need the help.

    Lyndon Johnson had the idea that all Americans should be living in fashionable homes and they deserved them. The taxpayers footed the bill for the projects around the country and what do they get in return? Tenements with broken glass, dens of thieves, drug addicts, single parents, and housing that had to be bulldozed because it was so infested with rats and other vermin.

    You list all the wonderful programs. Where does the money come from to pay for them? Liberal socialists need to discover that it isn't free and that taking from one person to give to another is anti-capitalist and defeating to those that would work and create more wealth if they were allowed to keep what they earn. Capitalism allows the individual to buy insurance if he or she pleases or to opt out. But it doesn't force others to pay for someone who will not take care of themselves.
  • my2cents DougE 2012/07/03 05:18:47
    my2cents
    +3
    Yada, yada, yada, perpetual croakings of doom.

    You can't stand the chance that Americans will LOVE Obamacare, just as much as they love Medicare.
  • AL my2cents 2012/07/03 08:56:43
    AL
    Because they don't love Obama care and they never have!
  • my2cents AL 2012/07/06 16:15:48
    my2cents
    Keep telling yourself that. And while you are, the Republicans are figuring out how to keep the parts of Obamacare that have already gone into effect, because they are very popular with the American people who are getting them.
  • JackSchitt my2cents 2012/07/03 11:15:16
    JackSchitt
    They sure as hell won't love Medicare after Obamacare cuts half a trillion dollars from it and at the same time adds 30 MILLION people to it.....it's gonna implode.

    Yeah, they LOVE Medicare all right....because they're oblivious to the enormous fraud and waste ....they also seem to not CARE AT ALL about the pesky little fact that it currently is $39 TRILLION in the hole in terms of unfunded liability.
  • my2cents JackSchitt 2012/07/06 16:18:08
    my2cents
    People don't care about anything except the fact that Medicare works so well they LOVE it. If fraud and waste is the problem, then end that. But take away a medical program that people love because government is too lazy to take on it's fraud and waste? Doesn't sound like a winning plan.
  • JackSchitt my2cents 2012/07/06 20:22:03
    JackSchitt
    Starting it in the FIRST PLACE wasn't a winning plan. Nowhere in the Constitution does it give the federal government the mandate to provide healthcare for US citizens.

    In 1956 when Medicare was implemented, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the hospital insurance portion of the program would cost about $9 billion annually by 1990. The actual cost in 1990 was over 7 TIMES that amount ($67 BILLION). Even after they factored for inflation, it was still 165% over the original estimate. In 1987, Congress estimated that Medicaid’s DSH program would cost less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost those 5 short years later was an unbelievable $17 billion.

    So imagine that your kids come to you wanting some new kind of cable / movie service that is supposed to cost $100 per month. 5 years later it is actually costing $700 per month. The $700 is NOT in the budget so the bill can never be paid in full and the balance keeps growing and growing. I don't CARE how much they LOVE it....it was a bad idea and it has to go.
  • my2cents JackSchitt 2012/07/06 21:43:59
    my2cents
    Well, too bad. Congress at the time disagreed with you that Medicare is constitutional. If you want a different vote, become a Congressman.

    Medicare is financially sound in and of itself. Everyone knows it's in trouble because the government can't keep it's sticky fingers out of the Medicare cookie jar, not because the program itself is flawed.

    Government has the ability to fix Medicare simply by leaving it alone and allowing it to function as intended. The problem is with our government leaders, not Medicare.
  • JackSchitt my2cents 2012/07/07 00:41:19
    JackSchitt
    Financially SOUND? You must have been trained at the Obama "the private sector is doing just fine" school of accounting.

    Exactly what part of $38.6 TRILLION (with a "T") in unfunded liability is causing you the confusion?

    http://cnsnews.com/news/artic...
  • Hawkeye 2012/07/03 01:06:43
    Hawkeye
    +2
    AT the rate that Obama is putting Americans out of work and driving ADULTS to move back in with their parents,, another four years of Obama and we'll have a 100% approval rating for Obamacare and anything ELSE that the people can no longer afford for themselves..
  • Manwé 2012/07/03 00:53:43
    Manwé
    Yes, nearly 13 million Americans will receive a total of $1.1 billion in rebates this year, which must happen no later than August 1, 2012.
  • AL Manwé 2012/07/03 08:59:41
    AL
    And yet you still believed all that Liberal Bull Sh** propaganda? LMAO!
  • tlee 2012/07/03 00:52:16
    tlee
    +1
    And most people who are for socialized medicine are zero liability voters who are a waste of breath,contributing nothing to society!.
  • Bali tlee 2012/07/03 01:00:40
  • Heptarch tlee 2012/07/03 01:41:49
    Heptarch
    +1
    What is a "zero liability voter"? Did you just make that up?

    As for the rest, cram it. I'm all for socialized medicine and I've done a hell of a lot to contribute to this country.
  • tlee Heptarch 2012/07/03 03:30:07
    tlee
    Why did you stop contributing only too help in it's collapse?.
  • Heptarch tlee 2012/07/03 03:31:59 (edited)
    Heptarch
    +3
    I didn't. You can believe, if you really want to, that a vote for Obama is a vote against America, but that's ridiculous and childish.

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