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Republicans prepare contempt citation against Eric Holder over Fast and Furious - about time?

Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2012/04/27 18:38:00
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(CBS News) -- House Republicans investigating the Fast and Furious scandal
have gotten the go-ahead by their party leaders to pursue a contempt citation
against Attorney General Eric Holder, senior congressional aides told CBS News.
The resolution will accuse Holder and his Justice Department of obstructing the
congressional probe into the allegations that the government let thousands of
weapons fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.


The citation would attempt to force Holder to turn over tens of thousands of
pages documents related to the probe, which has entered its second year.


For months, congressional Republicans probing ATF's Fast and Furious
"Gunwalker" scandal - led by California Republican Darrell Issa, have been
investigating a contempt citation. They've worked quietly behind the scenes to
build support among fellow Republicans, since it could ultimately face a full
House vote. CBS News has confirmed that House Speaker John Boehner, an Ohio
Republican, has given Rep. Issa, who heads the House Oversight and Government
Reform Committee, the go-ahead to proceed. A 48-page long draft contempt
resolution is being prepared.

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  • Alleycat 2012/04/27 19:56:49 (edited)
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    Alleycat
    +9
    This man has allowed the Justice Department to become a political arm of the Obama administration enforcing only the laws he see fit to enforce while abrogating the laws he deems unfit without the consent of congress who legally set those laws in motion. He has defiled his Constitutional duties that he himself is sworn to uphold and impeachment seems to be the only solution to this disgusting problem.

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  • Nestofa... Quietma... 2012/04/28 13:04:46
    Nestofasssps
    +2
    How many people did the iraq war kill?
    What about torture? And WHERE are the weapons of mass destruction? pics of the canisters of sarin gas or other biological weapons, warheads.. Yanno the live ones, not the scrap.
    War crimes???, he wont even go to canada because he doesnt feel safe.
    I dont like Holder or his handling of stuff, but PUHLEEZE dont try to say Its the same thing
  • kaZappoo Nestofa... 2012/04/29 02:38:55
    kaZappoo
    +2
    yeah twist the principal around ,,,,cant win the arguement ..so we'll well twist with non important conjecture ... it's a liberal thing right ?

    fact is they cant be defended "THEY F ED UP PERIOD !

    now they need to be held accountable ..
  • Nestofa... kaZappoo 2012/04/29 12:09:49
    Nestofasssps
    +2
    Who rattled your chain?..non important conjecture? thousands of military lives are non important conjecture? how sweet of you, how reich wing of you. They ALLLLL need to be held accountable, now I see Holder may be... where's your call for ALLL of them to be held accountable or is this just an Obama hunt?
    Don't bother responding I know the answer already. yawwn
  • Annie~P... Nestofa... 2012/04/30 01:08:14
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Nesto, you're deflecting but since everyone can clearly see your diversions while we are on the subject, how about all the wars Obummer has gotten us in to, in just 3 short years? Lets start with Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood then just for the heck of it move on to Libya in which Obama circumvented Congress. Oh, how about Afghanistan? I also am wondering how you feel about the Muslim Brotherhood (that has taken over Egypt) murdering Christians, right and left. Well, I'll give you a break and stop here as there are plenty of other conflicts Obama has gotten us into.
  • Nestofa... Annie~P... 2012/04/30 01:39:29
    Nestofasssps
    +1
    Egypt was started by Obama? welllllllllllll how bout some information on that.???? what was his demand, command and date this happened please. Are you confusing it with arab spring?? Mubarak pissed off Obama so he got his muslim relatives to start an uprising??? clever man.
    And how many americans TOUCHED boots to ground, in Libya how many lives were lost, As part of the UN and Nato, help was requested to lay the groundwork to oust ghadaffi by the arab nations... the UN and Nato obliged... Congress didnt need to give permission.
    Afghanistan was started by Obama??? really??? Iraq too???
    Cmon big girl gimme the goodies
  • kaZappoo Nestofa... 2012/04/30 02:47:07
    kaZappoo
    When and IF I want your opinion,I'll give it to you.
  • Nestofa... kaZappoo 2012/04/30 04:24:03
    Nestofasssps
    +1
    omg you aren't a person, you are a parrot, very clever, polly want a cracker?
    You didnt wait long to use it either...short attention span?
  • kaZappoo Nestofa... 2012/04/30 04:44:29
  • Nestofa... kaZappoo 2012/04/30 13:48:54
    Nestofasssps
    apparently not!
  • kaZappoo Nestofa... 2012/04/30 15:00:18
  • Nestofa... kaZappoo 2012/04/30 15:06:11
    Nestofasssps
    thats not an argument...sighs you make it so easy.
  • kaZappoo Nestofa... 2012/04/30 15:09:51
    kaZappoo
    why should I bother ,,YOU need some inteligence & mental capability inorder to understand whats told you and comprehend it ,,

    back to preschool for you ....you really need it ....!
  • Nestofa... kaZappoo 2012/04/30 15:46:55 (edited)
    Nestofasssps
    you claimed you could argue..so far you failed. I guess I expected too much from you, Im sorry, I shouldnt argue with unarmed people. dum gop
  • kaZappoo Nestofa... 2012/04/30 16:18:10
    kaZappoo
    you are the fkng ignorant one here ,,

    read this again;;

    why should I bother ,,YOU "meaning you "need some inteligence & mental capability inorder to understand whats told you and comprehend it ,,

    back to preschool for you ....you really need it ....!
  • Quietma... kaZappoo 2012/04/29 18:12:48
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Libs never confuse issues with facts, like Obama killing an american citizen with out any type of due process and of course nesthead won't metion that will she?!!
  • Idiot r... Quietma... 2012/04/29 19:14:41
    Idiot repubs
    +2
    The Justice Department released documents Thursday on the Bush-era Wide Receiver gun-walking operation that suggest the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was aware that guns were likely flowing into Mexico but allowed it to continue in the hopes of penetrating deeply into U.S.-Mexico gun trafficking networks.

    DOJ's documents were delivered in response to House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa's subpoena on Operation Fast and Furious and were also made available to the press.

    Guns linked to Fast and Furious were found at the murder scene of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in 2010. His killing first brought the tactic of gun-walking to broad attention, and subsequent investigations showed that investigators lost track of thousands of firearms purchased in the U.S., many of which crossed the border into Mexico.
  • Annie~P... Quietma... 2012/04/30 01:09:09 (edited)
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Liberals are an entitled bunch of uninformed regressives. Their only comeback is ---- blame Bush or you're a racist for saying that!
  • Nestofa... Quietma... 2012/04/30 01:41:05
    Nestofasssps
    +1
    When and IF I want your opinion,I'll give it to you.
  • Annie~P... kaZappoo 2012/04/30 01:01:34
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Bingo zapped!
  • kaZappoo Annie~P... 2012/04/30 02:46:35
    kaZappoo
    these folks will never understand right form wrong nor understand what there talking about nor be able to defend them selves correctly ,,,so they attack us ..

    cannot stay on topic ..and defend their debate .. so they call names ..

    I'm used to it ...and thanks ANNIE -P ...
  • Gยเtคг ... Quietma... 2012/04/28 14:19:39
    Gยเtคг Plคאєг ( JFK Democrat )
    +2
    No Bush and Cheney just sent them to prison for shooting drug lords crossing the border
  • Idiot r... Quietma... 2012/04/29 19:13:26
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    The Justice Department released documents Thursday on the Bush-era Wide Receiver gun-walking operation that suggest the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was aware that guns were likely flowing into Mexico but allowed it to continue in the hopes of penetrating deeply into U.S.-Mexico gun trafficking networks.

    DOJ's documents were delivered in response to House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa's subpoena on Operation Fast and Furious and were also made available to the press.

    Guns linked to Fast and Furious were found at the murder scene of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in 2010. His killing first brought the tactic of gun-walking to broad attention, and subsequent investigations showed that investigators lost track of thousands of firearms purchased in the U.S., many of which crossed the border into Mexico.

    It was started in 2006
  • Annie~P... Quietma... 2012/04/30 01:01:01
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Bingo Quietman. I don't recall any Chaney program that got a border patrol agent killed either.
  • Idiot r... Quietma... 2012/04/28 13:36:18 (edited)
    Idiot repubs
    +3
    Except Alberto Gonzales started it, proscecute him and Bush.
  • Idiot r... Quietma... 2012/04/29 19:12:41
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    http://readersupportednews.or...

    The Justice Department released documents Thursday on the Bush-era Wide Receiver gun-walking operation that suggest the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was aware that guns were likely flowing into Mexico but allowed it to continue in the hopes of penetrating deeply into U.S.-Mexico gun trafficking networks.

    DOJ's documents were delivered in response to House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa's subpoena on Operation Fast and Furious and were also made available to the press.

    Guns linked to Fast and Furious were found at the murder scene of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in 2010. His killing first brought the tactic of gun-walking to broad attention, and subsequent investigations showed that investigators lost track of thousands of firearms purchased in the U.S., many of which crossed the border into Mexico.
  • Dan™: R... Nestofa... 2012/04/27 23:31:05
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +7
    Prosecuted for what, exactly? Just because you don't like him?
  • Sinpac Dan™: R... 2012/04/28 12:17:30
    Sinpac
    +2
    Cheney lied about (nonexistent) weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein’s (nonexistent) ties to the 9/11 attack as a way to justify a war with a country that never attacked us. Thanks to Cheney and company, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and over 4,000 American soldiers perished in a war that should never have been fought.
    Committing War Crimes in Iraq. During the course of the Iraq war, the Bush/Cheney administration violated the Geneva Conventions by targeting civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, and using illegal weapons, including white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and a new type of napalm.
    War profiteering. U.S. taxpayers shelled out about three trillion dollars for the Bush/Cheney wars in Iraq and Afghanistan—a major factor in our nation’s present economic meltdown. But Cheney and his cronies at Halliburton made out like bandits, getting billions in contracts for everything from feeding troops in Iraq to constructing the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan to building the infamous Guantanamo prison. Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995-2000, leaving for the VP position with a $20 million retirement package, plus millions in stock options and deferred salary. Before the Iraq War began, Halliburton was 19th on the U.S. Army's list of top contractors; with ...

    Cheney lied about (nonexistent) weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein’s (nonexistent) ties to the 9/11 attack as a way to justify a war with a country that never attacked us. Thanks to Cheney and company, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and over 4,000 American soldiers perished in a war that should never have been fought.
    Committing War Crimes in Iraq. During the course of the Iraq war, the Bush/Cheney administration violated the Geneva Conventions by targeting civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, and using illegal weapons, including white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and a new type of napalm.
    War profiteering. U.S. taxpayers shelled out about three trillion dollars for the Bush/Cheney wars in Iraq and Afghanistan—a major factor in our nation’s present economic meltdown. But Cheney and his cronies at Halliburton made out like bandits, getting billions in contracts for everything from feeding troops in Iraq to constructing the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan to building the infamous Guantanamo prison. Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995-2000, leaving for the VP position with a $20 million retirement package, plus millions in stock options and deferred salary. Before the Iraq War began, Halliburton was 19th on the U.S. Army's list of top contractors; with Cheney’s help, by 2003 it was number one—increasing the value of Cheney’s stocks by over 3,000%.
    Violating basic rights. Cheney shares responsibility for holding thousands of prisoners without charges and without the fundamental right to the writ of habeas corpus, and forkeeping prisoners hidden from the International Committee of the Red Cross. He sanctioned kidnapping people and simply rendering them to secret overseas prisons. His authorization of the arbitrary detention of Americans, legal residents, and non-Americans--without due process, without charges, and without access to counsel--was in gross violation of U.S. and international law. A fan of indefinite detention in Guantanamo, Cheney writes in his book that he has been “happy to note” that President Obama failed to honor his pledge to close the Guantánamo prison.
    Advocating torture. Cheney was a prime mover behind the Bush administration's decision to violate the Geneva Conventions and the U.N. Convention Against Torture and to break with decades of past practice by the U.S. military by supporting “enhanced interrogation techniques.” This led to hundreds of documented cases in Iraq and Afghanistan of abuse, torture and homicide. The torture included the practice known as "water-boarding," a form of simulated drowning. After World War II, Japanese soldiers were tried and convicted of war crimes in US courts for water-boarding. The sanctioning of abuses from the top trickled down, as the whole world saw in the photos from Abu Ghraib, becoming a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda and sullying the reputation of our nation.
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  • Dan™: R... Sinpac 2012/04/28 13:10:33 (edited)
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +3
    Thanks for your cut-and-paste response. I've seen all this crap before. You've got a lot of your info wrong, but I don't have the time or inclination to point all the flaws in this argument, so I'll just focus on a few points..

    First of all, there's a reason why Cheney has never been tried, and it has mostly to do with the weakness of the case people like you present against him.

    First of all, being wrong about something isn't the same as lying. International intelligence reports indicated that Saddam actually did have WMDs and that's what the US acted on.

    Secondly, the US isn't a signatory to the Geneva convention, so that's irrelevant. US law doesn't submit to Geneva Convention standards.

    Thirdly, I don't know where you're getting your figures from, but the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq haven't cost anywhere near 3 trillion dollars.

    Fourthly, habeus corpus is not a "fundamental right" of prisoners of war. It is a Constitutional protection that doesn't apply to non-citizens of the US.

    Fifthly, waterboarding isn't torture. It's an effective and non-lethal interrogation technique. Our own troops and intelligence officers undergo waterboarding as a training exercise.
  • Gยเtคг ... Dan™: R... 2012/04/28 14:21:57
    Gยเtคг Plคאєг ( JFK Democrat )
    +4
    I do not want to be accused of any copy and post fraud by anyone. I just want to tell it like it is.
    Your response about Cheney not being tried because of the weakness of documented material being brought against him, Same can be said about why Obama has not been tried from a Birthers point of view.
    The story about who gave Iraq the WMD's in the first place
    http://www.fff.org/comment/co...
    Article from 2009 showing and explaining what the Iraq war alone will cost tax payers by the time it is over, not just the cost of funding the war.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
    Now lets have a look at what WaterBoarding actual is.
    http://www.waterboarding.org/...
    That being said, i do believe we have the right to use it on certain Individuals.
    I have seen terrorist videos of prisoners heads being cut off while they were alive and being filmed at the same time. Equal Punishment is what i believe in. They torture Americans they should be tortured back.
    There is plenty of corruption to go around in both parties, and frankly the American people should be tired of it by now, but guess we will just keep voting the same ol' dumb-asses to run (ruin) our country
  • kaZappoo Gยเtคг ... 2012/04/29 02:40:45
    kaZappoo
    +2
    were not talking about bush & cheney

    the point here is HOLDER & OBAMA .....!

    you folks just cant stand the truth .......!
  • Quietma... kaZappoo 2012/04/29 18:13:46
  • Annie~P... kaZappoo 2012/04/30 01:15:47
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Blame Bush-Chaney! Three years later regressives are still using that line. No wonder the left is losing Congressional seats 'right and left' especially on the East coast!
  • kaZappoo Annie~P... 2012/04/30 02:48:13
    kaZappoo
    precicely .....but they will never get that concept either ......!
  • Sinpac Dan™: R... 2012/04/28 16:46:49
    Sinpac
    +3
    I really didn't have time to write it out I had a lot going on this morning. What I posted is pretty much spot on.

    "First of all, being wrong about something isn't the same as lying. International intelligence reports indicated that Saddam actually did have WMDs and that's what the US acted on."

    Your right it wasn't because of WMD's it was because they threatened to kill his Daddy!

    "Secondly, the US isn't a signatory to the Geneva convention, so that's irrelevant. US law doesn't submit to Geneva Convention standards."

    So weather we are or not I take it that you believe anything goes right?
    The Conventions have been ratified by nearly every country in the world—194 states in total—including the United States. Countries that violate the Geneva Conventions, including Common Article Three, can be held accountable for charges of war crimes.

    "Thirdly, I don't know where you're getting your figures from, but the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq haven't cost anywhere near 3 trillion dollars."

    U.S. government has already spent between $2.3 trillion to $2.7 trillion and will spend at least a trillion more over the next fifty years.

    "Fourthly, habeus corpus is not a "fundamental right" of prisoners of war. It is a Constitutional protection that doesn't apply to non-citizens of the US."

    The writ of ha...



    I really didn't have time to write it out I had a lot going on this morning. What I posted is pretty much spot on.

    "First of all, being wrong about something isn't the same as lying. International intelligence reports indicated that Saddam actually did have WMDs and that's what the US acted on."

    Your right it wasn't because of WMD's it was because they threatened to kill his Daddy!

    "Secondly, the US isn't a signatory to the Geneva convention, so that's irrelevant. US law doesn't submit to Geneva Convention standards."

    So weather we are or not I take it that you believe anything goes right?
    The Conventions have been ratified by nearly every country in the world—194 states in total—including the United States. Countries that violate the Geneva Conventions, including Common Article Three, can be held accountable for charges of war crimes.

    "Thirdly, I don't know where you're getting your figures from, but the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq haven't cost anywhere near 3 trillion dollars."

    U.S. government has already spent between $2.3 trillion to $2.7 trillion and will spend at least a trillion more over the next fifty years.

    "Fourthly, habeus corpus is not a "fundamental right" of prisoners of war. It is a Constitutional protection that doesn't apply to non-citizens of the US."

    The writ of habeas corpus protects non-citizens from unlawful detainment through arbitrary arrest, disappearance or indefinite confinement.

    "Fifthly, waterboarding isn't torture. It's an effective and non-lethal interrogation technique. Our own troops and intelligence officers undergo waterboarding as a training exercise."

    Why would you even use Waterboarding when Scopolamine, sodium amytal, and Sodium Pentothal, and ethyl alcohol are affective?
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  • Dan™: R... Sinpac 2012/04/28 18:00:19
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +3
    You failed to make a single point against mine.
  • Sinpac Dan™: R... 2012/04/28 18:08:26
    Sinpac
    +2
    Of course I didn't!
  • kaZappoo Sinpac 2012/04/29 02:42:02
    kaZappoo
    +1
    what has this to do with the point of the topic ?

    swist ,,and defer the topic ,,lame defence !
  • Sinpac kaZappoo 2012/04/30 19:20:47
    Sinpac
    If you go above my post you will find your answer!
  • kaZappoo Sinpac 2012/04/30 19:36:49
    kaZappoo
    and your's in my last responce ...

    you'll never get it ....!
  • Sinpac kaZappoo 2012/04/30 19:57:26
    Sinpac
    Oh I get it!

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