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REPEAL THE 16TH AMENDMENT ?

Bill in Niantic 2012/07/03 13:06:14
TAKE THE POWER AWAY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TAX. RETURN POWER TO THE STATES AND LET THE STATES DETERMINE WHAT POWER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS OVER AND ABOVE PROTECTING THE UNITED STATES AND ITS CITIZENS FROM ALL ENEMIES, BOTH FOREIGN & DOMESTIC.
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  • Wesloco 2012/07/06 16:41:13
    Wesloco
    You know this argument ove state's rights has been going on since forever and it almost led to the destruction of the Union during the Civil War. We need to remember that we are the United States of America and as such we are one people. We can not have a bunch of little governments all doing their own thing we need to protect ourselves under the umbrella of the federal government. I don't fear the United States because I am the United States.
  • Mr. Stark 2012/07/04 08:46:51
    Mr. Stark
    +1
    Yeah, sounds like a great idea. Nothing like having the state tell me what I can and can't do over the federal government. Nothing like paying more in taxes thanks to state and local taxes over federal income taxes (which is the case for me).

    State laws have been by far much more against liberty and personal freedom than the federal government has - there's much evidence to support such a claim. While I do agree that the federal government should be cut down, I don't support this notion that state's should have the over arching authority.

    When federal government shrinks, and the state governments grow - what you have collectively then is still large government..And if you think that this will somehow cure the unemployment issues, or the social issues, or really, any issues, I am intrigued.
  • Bill in... Mr. Stark 2012/07/04 13:35:59
    Bill in Niantic
    But you can move if need be...
  • Wesloco Mr. Stark 2012/07/06 16:45:03
    Wesloco
    You know you're right, when I lived in California I had a house that was valued four times what my home in Texas is valued at yet my property tax bill in both states is practically identical. Here n Texas they complain and complain about federal taxes but the state and local taxes are what's killing me!
  • Waldorf 2012/07/03 16:13:21 (edited)
    Waldorf
    The fed would retain the authority for excise taxes. Just sayin'.

    Everywhere they somehow find interstate commerce authority, they could charge an excise tax.
  • I. Car Rus 2012/07/03 15:34:13
    I. Car Rus
    "Fat chance".
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/07/03 14:57:36
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    sounds good
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/03 14:05:25
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    I agree
  • maggiemay 2012/07/03 14:03:53
    maggiemay
    +2
    I'm all for eliminating the Federal Government. Turn it over to the states. Let the states decide what they want. It's the only way to stop the Corruption that is in Washington. Send them all home.
  • Mr. T 2012/07/03 13:56:22
    Mr. T
    +1
    If ANYONE thinks the government is going to give up any power now is living in a dream world. Take a look around, they are expanding their power with every new piece of legislation and control the military. America is as good as it is ever going to be right now and steadily going downhill. Do I like it, hell no but that is the reality. They control the media, energy, finances, transportation, communication and everything else people need to live or would need to organize against them.
  • Bouncer 2012/07/03 13:33:07
    Bouncer
    +1
    I agree. Watch this clip to see how it came to be law.

    http://youtu.be/pRnawJDTTPA
  • Bill in Niantic 2012/07/03 13:14:52
  • crotchrot 2012/07/03 13:11:55
  • Tasine 2012/07/03 13:08:50
    Tasine
    +2
    I would vote for that in a heartbeat. The only way to solve the politician problem is to defund Congress and the President. Unfortunately, that makes people tremble with fear when one says such. I cannot imagine why EVERYONE wants to continue funding the corruption in DC.
  • Bill in Niantic 2012/07/03 13:08:44
    Bill in Niantic
    At first blush, Chief Justice John Robert’s defection to the Dark Side on ObamaCare looks every bit the tragic treason of Anakin Skywalker: the end of health care as we know it, and perhaps the end of the Republic.

    But as conservatives take a deep breath and consider, they may realize the Chief Justice just handed them, however unwittingly, an enormous opportunity.

    By this I do not mean the obvious electoral opportunity. This will not be an election about whether Ann Romney “worked” or a teenage Obama ever experimented with pot. No, the full fire and brimstone of the seemingly dormant Tea Party movement will now resurface like a transcontinental chain of volcanoes, and given the enduring and growing majority of Americans against ObamaCare, one can safely assume that that passion will translate into the same sort of lopsided two-to-one Republican victory among independents it produced in 2010.

    Roberts just handed Republicans the election. The momentum might even carry over to a sixty-plus seat Republican Senate in 2014. ObamaCare is doomed, no matter what the Supremes may say.

    As conservatives take a deep breath and consider, they may realize the Chief Justice just handed them, however unwittingly, an enormous opportunity.

    - But that’s not the crucial point, the g...



























    At first blush, Chief Justice John Robert’s defection to the Dark Side on ObamaCare looks every bit the tragic treason of Anakin Skywalker: the end of health care as we know it, and perhaps the end of the Republic.

    But as conservatives take a deep breath and consider, they may realize the Chief Justice just handed them, however unwittingly, an enormous opportunity.

    By this I do not mean the obvious electoral opportunity. This will not be an election about whether Ann Romney “worked” or a teenage Obama ever experimented with pot. No, the full fire and brimstone of the seemingly dormant Tea Party movement will now resurface like a transcontinental chain of volcanoes, and given the enduring and growing majority of Americans against ObamaCare, one can safely assume that that passion will translate into the same sort of lopsided two-to-one Republican victory among independents it produced in 2010.

    Roberts just handed Republicans the election. The momentum might even carry over to a sixty-plus seat Republican Senate in 2014. ObamaCare is doomed, no matter what the Supremes may say.

    As conservatives take a deep breath and consider, they may realize the Chief Justice just handed them, however unwittingly, an enormous opportunity.

    - But that’s not the crucial point, the grand opportunity, the chance to, in effect, repeal the evils of the 20th century.

    That lies in how Roberts made his decision.

    Conservatives were rightly terrified that a pro-ObamaCare majority would come to its conclusion based on an expansion of a 1941 decision named "Wickard v. Filburn." Wickard is the most important New Deal-era case undergirding the Nanny State and the radical expansion of government power. In it, the Court wrung the maximum imaginable power out of a Constitution designed almost entirely to restrict such: it said, more or less, that if a person does anything at all, the feds have power to regulate that action.

    This is a far cry from “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” But it has been the Supreme Court’s take on that sentence for over 70 years.

    Conservatives understood that the most likely way for the Supremes to uphold ObamaCare – which requires individuals to actively go into the marketplace and spend their money to buy something they do not want, and then regulates them for doing so – was to expand Wickard: in effect, to say there are no limits on federal power whatsoever. Some openly worried that this would constitute dictatorship, and to be sure, from the Founding Fathers’ perspective, it would be more power than George III ever imagined.

    But this is not what Chief Justice Roberts did.

    Roberts said that there was no need to expand federal power to uphold ObamaCare. Directly contradicting the position of the administration and its attorneys, Roberts said that the financial burden imposed by the law was simply a tax, and that there is no dispute as to whether the federal government has that power.

    And therein, he re-opened a century old debate that constitutes conservatives’ great opportunity, their chance to drive a stake through the heart of socialism.

    Why?

    Because originally, the feds had no power to tax you directly at all. It took the 16th Amendment, in 1913, to grant them that. Before 1913, Washington divided the bill based on population, just like friends around a dinner table, and sent an invoice to each state capital. This left the taxing power – the power to determine how intrusive taxing authorities could be – with the government closest to you; it also made states the natural opponent of federal expansion, since they had to pay the bill. This bit of Founders’ brilliance helped keep Washington in check for 140 years.

    Without the 16th Amendment, there is no federal power to directly tax a citizen. Without the 16th Amendment, therefore, there is no ObamaCare.

    This may sound like pie in the sky. But in fact, there’s already a huge, well-organized, well-funded movement to repeal the 16th, backed by some of the most powerful people in America. It’s called "the Fair Tax Movement." The only problem with the Fair Taxers is that they don’t go far enough: they want to do away with the income tax, but they want to replace it with another direct federal tax, a national sales tax.

    It’s time for all conservatives to come together and unite around a better solution. We don’t need a federal sales tax: we need the Founders’ system of apportionment among the states. It will shift the political dynamic in America overnight toward a radical devolution of power to the states; it will eliminate the IRS once and for all; but most of all, it will destroy the basis on which ObamaCare and a thousand other tyrannies are currently built.

    John Roberts just pointed the way to a conservative revolution. Will we take it?

    Rod D. Martin is a leading futurist, technology entrepreneur and conservative activist from Destin, Florida. He was part of PayPal.com’s pre-IPO startup team, serving as special counsel to founder and CEO Peter Thiel, and also served as policy director to former Governor Mike Huckabee. He is president of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA), a member of the Council for National Policy, and serves on numerous nonprofit and for-profit boards.
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  • Tasine Bill in... 2012/07/03 13:22:37
    Tasine
    +1
    The sad thing is that I believe with all my being that MOST Americans don't want the 16th repealed. I believe too many Americans have bought the poison handed out by the left that we MUST have an all encompassing GOVERNment that holds the hands of the poor, the afflicted, the incapable, the LAZY, the cheats, the "workers", etc. I believe as many Americans love to be downtrodden as there are those who value independence.

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