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Reality Check: The Obama administration demanded power to detain U.S. citizens

POODYLOU ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2011/12/26 03:16:40

Two weeks ago I told you that the U.S. Senate approved the National Defense Authorization Act to fund the military. But within that act is a provision known as section 1031. That section allows the U.S. government to indefinitely imprison any person, whether a U.S. citizen or not, as long as the President deems them a terror suspect.

So didn't President Obama say he would veto this bill as long as that provision remained? Yes. On Nov. 17, when the Senate approved their version of the bill, the White House issued a warning saying:

"This military custody requirement to individuals inside the United States, as some members of Congress have suggested is their intention, would raise serious and unsettled legal questions and would be inconsistent with the fundamental American principle that our military does not patrol our streets."- Executive Office of the President.

From that statement and others from the President, it appeared that the administration was against Section 1031 because it required that terror suspects be detained by military forces and an exception to that could only be granted by the Secretary of Defense.

Yesterday, the Obama administration announced that the President won't veto the NDAA because the military custody mandate has been "softened."

The bill now gives the President the immediate power to issue a waiver of the military custody requirement, instead of the Defense Secretary, and gives the President discretion in implementing these new provisions.

So lets cut through all this spin. The President now says he will sign a bill that stomps on due process by allowing U.S. citizens to be detained indefinitely without charges filed against them and without a trial.

A bill that allows U.S. citizens transported to overseas prisons without charges filed, because now, he has the power to issue a waiver instead of the Secretary of Defense.

So here's the question. Do you believe that President Obama didn't want the power of indefinite detention to be given to the Office of the President?

According to Sen. Carl Levin, who helped to craft this bill, not only did the President want the power, this administration was the one who demanded the power to detain U.S. citizens indefinitely be placed inside the bill

"And I'm wondering whether the Senator is familiar with the fact that the language, the language which precluded the application of section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved in the Armed Services Committee, and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that U.S. citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section?

"Is the Senator familiar with the fact that it was the administration which asked us to remove the very language we had in the bill which passed the committee and that we removed it at the request of the administration, that would have said that this determination would not apply to U.S. citizens and lawful residents?" Levin said on the Senate floor.

This is exactly why there are millions of Americans from across the political spectrum who are saying who cares if the politician has an (R) by their name or (D).

None of these men and women deserve this kind of authority.

Our founders and framers designed our Constitution in such a way that the people of this nation would be ruled by law and not by the whims of a ruler.

The majority of Americans may be asleep on this, may have no idea what's happening even as so many of your rights are being taken away.

Samuel Adams said that was OK. "It does not take a majority to prevail..." he once said, "but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men."

And that is Reality Check.

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  • Rusty Shackleford 2011/12/26 10:59:27
    Rusty Shackleford
    +4
    The Tea Party has already been labeled a terrorist organization buy the 0bama regime. The U.S. homeland is to be labeled a battlefield.

    What more evidence do we really need of their intentions?

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  • Katherine 2012/01/25 17:44:32
  • Wahvlvke 2011/12/26 14:25:56 (edited)
    Wahvlvke
    +1
    obie seems intent on bringing on his own demise. He is politically dead as soon as he allows something "iffy" to happen under these auspices.
  • POODYLO... Wahvlvke 2011/12/26 23:24:39
    POODYLOU ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    nah there are people that will still be blind enough to vote for him. Then too he has acorn on his side!
  • Wahvlvke POODYLO... 2011/12/27 13:18:11
    Wahvlvke
    +1
    I'm talking about people revolting against the socialist downslide and running these trairorous bastards off.
  • cutter's falls 2011/12/26 12:55:05
    cutter's falls
    +2
    These are Thomas Paine's words not mine
    Still
    They are good words...

    December 23,1776
    THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER.

    These are truely
    Times that Test a Man's Soul
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2011/12/26 11:34:49
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +2
    "This military custody requirement to individuals inside the United States, as some members of Congress have suggested is their intention, would raise serious and unsettled legal questions and would be inconsistent with the fundamental American principle that our military does not patrol our streets."- Executive Office of the President.

    That's why I believe that if given the opportunity, BHO will work closely with the human debris over at the UN to deploy UN military personnel on our streets. Probably long about September/October 2012 ........ just in time to declare martial law and cancel the upcoming election.

    Crazy thoughts? Who would've thought 5 years ago that the National Christmas Tree on the Mall in Washington DC would celebrate BHO, not the holiday nor Jesus?
  • Rusty Shackleford 2011/12/26 10:59:27
    Rusty Shackleford
    +4
    The Tea Party has already been labeled a terrorist organization buy the 0bama regime. The U.S. homeland is to be labeled a battlefield.

    What more evidence do we really need of their intentions?
  • Fox13_spydr 2011/12/26 08:47:41
    Fox13_spydr
    +4
    Benjamin Franklin (sometimes Thomas Jefferson) is often quoted as saying:

    Those who would give up Essential Liberty
    to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
    deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    -http://kevincraig.us/tempsec...
  • LOU 2011/12/26 08:31:17
    LOU
    Hey DipWad where was you when Homeland Security was signed in? The TSA/CIA/FBI can hold with for no reason for any length of time. Where have you been?
  • ScoDog LOU 2011/12/26 11:04:22
    ScoDog
    +3
    As I recall this President was elected by masses of people who were concerned about, amongst other things, civil liberties. What have they gotten out of this administration?
  • Mariposa 2011/12/26 06:45:41
    Mariposa
    +1
    Both parties are responsible for this outrage. This is very disappointing news.
  • explorer1618 2011/12/26 05:53:30
    explorer1618
    +1
    Mattel made a toy for you ---- >
    But it Takes more time to get you just to sit and listen ......... !
  • Sandy 2011/12/26 05:49:55
    Sandy
    +2
    Dictatorship.. yup.
  • LOU Sandy 2011/12/26 08:32:31
    LOU
    Yes he is.
    Bush
  • Rusty S... LOU 2011/12/26 11:01:30
    Rusty Shackleford
    +3
    Still blaming Bush? Even for this?

    Does 0bama have any responsibility at all?
  • LOU Rusty S... 2011/12/27 08:16:12
    LOU
    None...republican backed bill.
  • Wahvlvke LOU 2011/12/26 14:29:15
    Wahvlvke
    +1
    Henceforth, from now on and forevermore it is Bush's fault, what ever it is.
  • POODYLO... Wahvlvke 2011/12/26 15:25:21
  • Wahvlvke POODYLO... 2011/12/27 13:18:42
    Wahvlvke
    Perfect.
  • Sandy LOU 2011/12/26 20:54:04
    Sandy
    listen to a few of these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Technotrucker_exposingthetruth 2011/12/26 05:35:38
    Technotrucker_exposingthetruth
    +4
    And who stands against these continuous atrocities against our Bill of Rights, in violation of our Constitution? None other than Ron Paul. The candidate that continues to be slandered and belittled for is belief that the founding fathers had it right.
  • marcuss... Technot... 2011/12/26 15:20:39
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    You forgot to add he loves IRAN and even though they are aggressively seeking nuclear weapons they are not a threat to the US and Israel.

  • POODYLO... marcuss... 2011/12/26 15:58:14
    POODYLOU ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    the Head of our National defense says they are not. Where do you get your info?
  • marcuss... POODYLO... 2011/12/26 16:05:24
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    Isnt this BILL CLINTON saying this or was it his clone?

  • POODYLO... marcuss... 2011/12/26 16:10:54
  • POODYLO... marcuss... 2011/12/26 23:22:57
    POODYLOU ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    wasn't he impeached and forgot to quit showing up!
  • marcuss... POODYLO... 2011/12/26 23:25:13
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    Seems the democrats can lie under oath and it means nothing.
  • POODYLO... marcuss... 2011/12/26 23:36:50
    POODYLOU ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    and you approve that message?
  • marcuss... POODYLO... 2011/12/26 23:46:47 (edited)
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    Well is it not fact? Please prove to me Clinton didnt lie uner oath. Prove Eric Holder has not LIED under oath about FAST and FURIOUS. I can post a bunch of Soetoro lies if need be.
  • POODYLO... marcuss... 2011/12/27 01:28:22
    POODYLOU ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    I agree with the fact they are all liars, I just don;t see what side you are on, or the point you are trying to make!
  • The Truth 2011/12/26 03:41:54 (edited)
    The Truth
    +4
    Yes.. Welcome to the No World Order period of the New World Order. Stay tuned for Police State. And War on all you believe in. Things to remember in the NWO propaganda campaign are: Jesus Christ is the Son of God. America WAS founded as a Christian nation. Things are the way they are as the end result of this NWO plot that is actually Thousands of years in the making. Happy New Year All!

    Remeber
  • CaptainPicard 2011/12/26 03:26:58
    CaptainPicard
    +1
    It was a republican proposal.
  • tommyg ... Captain... 2011/12/26 04:07:36
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +6
    We're past that.

    No President has been this close to this kind of power.
  • LOU tommyg ... 2011/12/26 08:33:58
    LOU
    Nice cover up! "We're past that." You people just amaze me.
  • Fox13_s... LOU 2011/12/26 08:50:29
    Fox13_spydr
    +3
    it think it is a POTUS thing and has nothing to do with rep/dem or whatever party. The situations that we face today are a results of both parties throughout or combined history. No matter how it got here, its a situation we must deal with as a people not as a "party"
  • LOU Fox13_s... 2011/12/26 09:04:31
    LOU
    +1
    Most honest and well spoken words I have ever seen in the two years of typing on this page. Thank you and God Bless.
  • Fox13_s... LOU 2011/12/26 11:39:38
    Fox13_spydr
    Thank you

    I try to be as honest as possible, we will not see our problems if we just use our parties as shelter or a base to argue. We must join and start doing the "hard right over easy wrong"
  • Captain... Fox13_s... 2011/12/27 01:21:14
    CaptainPicard
    Agreed.
  • tommyg ... LOU 2011/12/26 16:36:41
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    You people? I basically said the same as Fox13 below and his comments were "most honest and well spoken I have seen in 2 years...".

    What gives?
  • Captain... tommyg ... 2011/12/27 01:20:45
    CaptainPicard
    The article says "the Obama administration DEMANDED power". That's not true. I'm not saying a President should have unlimited power, just that its wrong to try to paint Obama as "power hungry".

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