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Rave this question if you ACTUALLY support FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2012/09/12 14:34:28
Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it with everyone!
No...freedom of religion means no (Muslims, Mormons or [insert irrational fear of religion here])
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Freedom of religion means that you do NOT attempt to force your religion on others through the law.

It means that you do NOT attempt to legislate other religions...be they Muslim, Mormon, Scientology or Christianity.

It means respecting the strength of our First Amendment and not being scared of "others."

Get it together and respect our Constitution.

That is all.
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  • Tim Terror 2012/09/12 16:55:22
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    Tim Terror
    +31
    I just wish that they'd respect my decision not to believe. Humble

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  • teigan iamthem... 2012/09/20 22:48:16
    teigan
    It shouldn't be. Government employees should not be required to give up their right to freedom of religion simply because they are employed by the government. As long as they are not trying to make laws regarding religion, they should be free to say "Merry Christmas" or whatever without interference.
  • Professor Wizard 2012/09/19 16:54:52
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    Professor Wizard
    +4
    It also means freedom of NO Religion.

    But many don't like that.
  • iamthem... Profess... 2012/09/20 17:12:11
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    Thank you.
  • Seeker62 Profess... 2012/09/24 12:50:47
    Seeker62
    +1
    The problem my friend is the other way around. Atheists tend to be completely intolerant of anyone practicing their religion anywhere in public. Generally speaking, in my experience, Christians are no where near as intolerant as atheists.
  • Profess... Seeker62 2012/09/24 13:08:18
    Professor Wizard
    +2
    I'm sorry to see you feel that way.

    My experience has be quite the opposite when traveling.

    What you say is interesting as I am Atheists.. and I have absolutely NO problem with Anyone practicing their religion in public.. even if it involves slicing up goats or worshiping devils, witches or antichrists... Frankly - I really, truly do not care the tiniest bit, what you believe religiously, other then I believe you are FREE to believe what ever you like, as long as it doesn't involve you shooting at me, or trying to set me on fire..

    I personally know several Atheists, and none of the Atheists that I know have any problems with other people believing or practicing their relations.

    You must live in a different area then I do, if you are having problems with atheists..... perhaps you should move here - much more religious friendly! : )

    Side Note: I do have a problem with people torturing and killing others for the sake of, because or, or a commanded by, their religions. I will not tolerate that for a moment.

    Lets be real though :: there are fanatics and zealots in every faction of life, including religion and lack thereof. And those people will always make the lives of everyone else miserable when ever they have a chance.

    Too bad there is no way of know who is actually right - whil...

    I'm sorry to see you feel that way.

    My experience has be quite the opposite when traveling.

    What you say is interesting as I am Atheists.. and I have absolutely NO problem with Anyone practicing their religion in public.. even if it involves slicing up goats or worshiping devils, witches or antichrists... Frankly - I really, truly do not care the tiniest bit, what you believe religiously, other then I believe you are FREE to believe what ever you like, as long as it doesn't involve you shooting at me, or trying to set me on fire..

    I personally know several Atheists, and none of the Atheists that I know have any problems with other people believing or practicing their relations.

    You must live in a different area then I do, if you are having problems with atheists..... perhaps you should move here - much more religious friendly! : )

    Side Note: I do have a problem with people torturing and killing others for the sake of, because or, or a commanded by, their religions. I will not tolerate that for a moment.

    Lets be real though :: there are fanatics and zealots in every faction of life, including religion and lack thereof. And those people will always make the lives of everyone else miserable when ever they have a chance.

    Too bad there is no way of know who is actually right - while we are still alive.

    But I would be quite surprised to learn none of it is correct, and actually we are all ancestor of some ancient Alien Race that had pouted it's planet and seeded us here to terraform Earth, so they could return some day, once the planet it ready for them.
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  • Seeker62 Profess... 2012/09/24 13:17:43
    Seeker62
    +1
    I think if you go to work at a public place like a school, an big office building, etc and you are "toting your bible, and praying during breaks you will find out rather quickly that such activities are not tolerated. Particularly if you happen to be in management.
  • iamthem... Seeker62 2012/09/24 19:30:12
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Should they be "tolerated" though?

    I think we need to define what we mean by tolerance in that context...I don't think that such activities should be allowed as, generally, they have nothing to do with the work being done, and tend to be disruptive to the work environment.

    Of course, where religious activity is non-disruptive generally, it should be allowed.
  • Seeker62 iamthem... 2012/09/27 18:35:19 (edited)
    Seeker62
    +1
    That is a good question... and an ancient one. The Hebrew prophet Daniel insisted on praying to his deity no less than three times each and everyday and was compelled by the secular government of his time not to do so. Daniel could easily have taken his practice into private so that no one would know what he was doing or when but he refused to do that. He was arrested and ultimately sentenced to death for absolute refusal to comply with the Government's regulation of his religious practices. Daniel, and his contemporaries, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are set in contemporary Christian lore as heroes of faithfulness to God while governments that prohibit religious practices are considered immoral and contemptible.
    Today the government would not kill you, you would merely be sued in the courts, lose your job. Anyone as insistent as the prophet would be forced to either change your ways or starve in the streets. Of course we have few today with the faithfulness of Daniel.
  • iamthem... Seeker62 2012/11/07 17:46:03
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    "Today the government would not kill you, you would merely be sued in the courts, lose your job."

    That's actually not the case at all, in most cases. Most employers are required to make reasonable accommodations for their employees religious practices.
  • Aduro 2012/09/19 14:49:49
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    Aduro
    +4
    I support freedom of religion 100%. I support a persons right to worship how they please. I also support a persons right to NOT worship anything at all.
  • iamthem... Aduro 2012/09/20 17:12:20
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Thank you.
  • revbh 2012/09/19 06:06:10
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    revbh
    +2
    How come everyone who answered believes in freedom of religion? Are all the people who think we're a "Christian nation" staying away? You sure get a different picture when you read the posts to other questions.
  • iamthem... revbh 2012/09/20 17:13:11
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Some people that answered "yes" really should have answered "no"...it's true.
  • revbh iamthem... 2012/09/21 03:07:55
    revbh
    +1
    Yep. You're right. Lotsa "nominal" tolerance. They talk the talk but have no idea how to walk the walk.

    THX for splaining.
  • Marlene... revbh 2012/09/21 23:56:10
    Marlene Wilkins
    Speaking for myself and our household, our view is this:
    Each to their own Way. For some, this means having no religion in their life at all, and for others, the exact opposite of that.
    Each person must make their own decisions and choices, and THAT is what we respect above all else, the Innate Birthright of Self-Determination & Free Will.
    NO one, NO gov't, NO organization has the 'right' or authority in dictating what a person choses to believe insofar as this topic goes, and that includes freedom of choice to have NO religious freedom whatsoever.

    The muslims out there clamouring that 'all shall bow to islam'...those are criminals, in the same way that Hitler, Stalin, the KKK, Neo-Nazis and Organized Crime are.
    And should be treated as such because they are a threat to ALL of us and our Birthright of Self-Determination.
  • David 2012/09/19 06:00:07
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    David
    +1
    This is equivalent to having the right to be stupid. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

    Religion = stupid, intolerant, hateful, unreasonable, primitive, and false.
  • writing... David 2012/09/19 22:25:36
    writing_fanatic
    +2
    That's not true, your categorizing everyone with the extremists. Take me for example. I'm a Christian, and I don't mind. It's when people like you tell me I'm ignorant, intolerant, ect that I stop liking you. Just saying.
  • David writing... 2012/09/20 05:10:42
    David
    I'm not talking about extremists. I'm talking about religion itself. The very content that is in religion, is incredibly stupid and primitive.
  • iamthem... David 2012/09/20 17:14:29
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    When you generalize like that, it's almost inevitably unsupportable.
  • iamthem... writing... 2012/09/20 17:13:48
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    Very rational response. Well done.
  • writing... iamthem... 2012/09/27 04:15:59
    writing_fanatic
    +1
    Thank you.
  • teigan David 2012/09/20 22:52:34
    teigan
    You're opinion of religion does not change the fact that is guarenteed under our constitution. You are also guarenteed the right not to believe. I don't care what you choose to believe, why do you feel the need to tell others what they should or should not believe? Do you not like living in a free country?
  • David teigan 2012/09/21 01:58:32 (edited)
    David
    The same could be said of religion. Why do you feel the need to preach to non-believers and threaten them with eternal damnation when they say no. Why do Christians insist that the USA is a Christian nation. Why is there "under God" in our pledge of allegiance when it didn't belong there in it's original form. Why do churches get tax exemptions when other organizations don't. Why do Christians want prayer back in schools. The list goes on and on.
  • teigan David 2012/09/21 20:54:45
    teigan
    I don't preach anything. My faith is my own, like I said, I don't care what you believe in. We are a Christian Nation. All kinds of organizations get tax exemption. God has been removed from schools and now we have children that come to school and shoot teachers and their fellow students. You figure it out. How many school shootings did we have prior to kicking God out?
  • David teigan 2012/09/21 21:33:06
    David
    +1
    Okay. So you don't preach. Then that makes you not a good Christian. As the Bible states that Christians must spread the "good news". And even though you yourself don't preach, there are millions of other Christians who do, holding up picket signs saying you're going to Hell if you don't believe. And where is your basis that we are a Christian nation. The founding fathers were not all Christian. The laws listed in the Bible are not coherent with US laws. Just because the majority of Americans follow a Christian sect does not mean this country is a Christian nation. And you ignored my question regarding why is there "under God" in the pledge of allegiance. All of the things I mentioned is forcing people into being influenced by religious beliefs in part. And shootings have nothing to do with what I'm saying. You're implying that Satan has increased violence since God has been removed from schools. That sounds incredibly stupid and is an assumption. And it's not just non-believers who use guns, Christians do as well. The fact is, Christianity can't survive without forcing it's beliefs down other people's throats. If religion remained neutral or noninvasive, it would be quickly eradicated.
  • teigan David 2012/09/22 11:18:51
    teigan
    +1
    The only so called Christians that picket with disgusting signs aren't Christians at all. They are the devils Disciples.

    "You're implying that Satan has increased violence since God has been removed from schools."

    What do you think a fox does when nobody's guarding the hen house?
  • iamthem... teigan 2012/09/24 19:31:08
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    But they believe they are Christians...and isn't that how we need to consider them?

    It's too easy to dismiss them with a "no true scots man" fallacy, don't you think?
  • teigan iamthem... 2012/09/24 20:24:44
    teigan
    You're free to consider their church of hate Christians, but no, I don't need to. I think their hatred for America, and our soldiers comes not from God but from Satan. Hate and death is the religion of that church, that's why their following consists of a family of imbreds.
  • iamthem... teigan 2012/09/25 16:01:25
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    The point is not whether I consider them Christians...the issue is that they themselves do.

    We can all argue that they distort the religion to fit their hate...but the same thing, of course, can be said for any religion.
  • mark 2012/09/19 04:54:30
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    mark
    +1
    I respect freedom of religion but I rarely rave questions. So no rave on question.
  • iamthem... mark 2012/09/20 17:14:38
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Thank you.
  • Ben~ Libertarian Socialist 2012/09/19 04:53:45
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    Ben~ Libertarian Socialist
    +1
    Everybody should practice their religion so long as it does not effect me at all.
  • iamthem... Ben~ Li... 2012/09/20 17:15:28
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Hmmm. I'm not sure that's possible. It's like freedom of speech that way - you can't really support freedom of speech unless you accept that you will hear things that you find utterly upsetting.
  • AnnieRae0311 2012/09/19 04:13:09 (edited)
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    AnnieRae0311
    +4
    I am a Christian I go to church I do Bible study ever day. Why shouldn't someone of another religion be able to praise the same way I do....I do not see why not. On the other hand I will never, ever summit to another persons religion. Freedom is not a simple word! I will praise my way, you praise your way. Deal.
  • iamthem... AnnieRa... 2012/09/20 17:16:00
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    "Freedom is not a simple word." Very, very good quote.
  • AnnieRa... iamthem... 2012/10/13 20:55:06
    AnnieRae0311
    +1
    I came up with. I am a writer so i pull that stuff out of a hat from time to time. People think I a genius and I think their crazy hahahaha! Thanks for liking my words!
  • SEXIEREX 2012/09/19 03:14:36
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    SEXIEREX
    +1
    Answers are bias, refuse to answer. ie.. [insert irrational fear of religion here]
  • iamthem... SEXIEREX 2012/09/20 17:16:30
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    You did answer though.

    How are they biased? And...is bias always wrong?
  • babibumer 2012/09/19 00:36:04
    Yes...I respect freedom of religion and raved this question and shared it wit...
    babibumer
    +1
    With the craziness in the Muslim world right now, one might think this post would apply to that situation. However, though not with guns and riots (yet) the far Right Wing is trying their best to legislate their beliefs into laws of this nation that govern all people. Hopefully these Tea Party fanatics will lose their place in the 2012 elections.
  • teigan babibumer 2012/09/20 22:56:50
    teigan
    How so? Muslems have freedom of religion here. Shira law is not a freedom granted by our constitution because it makes laws based on religion. So no it that portion will not be accepted and cannot according to our constitution.

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