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RAVE THIS. Pres Obama is doing what he thinks is best for America. Agree or disagree?

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  • aneed2know 2012/08/11 08:13:38
    Yes he is doing what is best for America.
    aneed2know
    +25
    of course, he has been where most Americans are so he can relate where as Romney cannot.

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  • Dan der... Spizzzo... 2012/08/13 20:25:51
    Dan der Mensch
    Oh I don't think my ideas are extreme. Suggesting Obama's the anti-Christ, now that would be extreme (and unlikely).

    It's no secret that Obama is not a fan of capitalism. Whether he's telling Joe the Plumber that he wants to spread the wealth, or telling all of us that the businesses we built weren't really built by us. That ideology certainly does NOT show a respect for capitalism. Whenever he speaks like that he alienates the most creative and hardest working citizens we have - to pander to some of the worst leeches of our society.
  • Spizzzo... Dan der... 2012/08/13 22:29:00
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Get used to it: your ideas ARE extreme. And wrong. And I was wrong to think you are able to reason and prove your "points", since all of your points are just plain provably wrong--and you don't seem to care since you spread the blatant lies above as if they are true. You should look into using actual facts and living in the real world.
  • Dan der... Spizzzo... 2012/08/14 04:49:14
    Dan der Mensch
    Prove them wrong then. You've been saying I can't articulate my points and yet you've not once attempted the same on your end. Are you suggesting the conversation between Joe the Plumber and Obama didn't exist? Or that Obama didn't claim hard-working entrepreneurs owe their success to the government? Because I can find videos that say otherwise.
  • Spizzzo... Dan der... 2012/11/24 07:58:12
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Videos are NOT proof of much of anything. Anyone can put most anything on video. Here's an example of your extremism: saying Mr. Obama is no fan of capitalism. What utter and unproven nonsense. He often states how much he likes it and gives details of how he'd like to help it. Speaking of helping it, business is booming under him, at least in terms of record profits and stock market highs. Yes, I can find a lot of videos of him saying that.

    So, if you think he's anti-capitalism, do you see him as pro- something else? For that matter, what is "capitalism" to you, and are there ANY valid governmental limits on it?
  • Dan der... Spizzzo... 2012/11/26 04:03:02
    Dan der Mensch
    Actually videos are admitted as evidence in trials all the time. Whenever a cop is busted for abuse of power, it's usually because of someone's video - so your reply fails on the first sentence (a new low for you).

    I'd say Obama is pro-government.

    Capitalism, to me, is all about private property rights with a private marketplace unencumbered with gov't regulations.
  • Spizzzo... Dan der... 2012/11/26 05:42:51
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Sorry, you lose on the video. Courts do not accept videos not attested to and made under known conditions with all edits explained. Even then, witnesses may comment on their different interpretations of what it shows. Think Rodney King. That is precisely why I say videos (alone, if that's not clear) don't prove anything. Tell you what, if videos you provide have full documentation and attestation as to what they show being accurate and unbiased, I'll take a look at them and offer m opinion of what they show.

    That looks like a good start on defining "capitalism", right up to where you say "unencumbered with gov't regulations". That's not a necessary part of it. In fact, unencumbered capitalism has shown over and over again that they NEED regulation--and properly regulated both business and society does better.

    You seem to pit capitalism vs. government when you say Mr. Obama is pro-government. The fact is that government can coexist with capitalism and both can prosper. What's wrong with being pro-government? Doesn't everyone like and want good government? Well, maybe not the anarchists. Are you one?
  • Dan der... Spizzzo... 2012/11/26 06:14:20
    Dan der Mensch
    No, I'm definitely not an anarchist. I do believe that government is necessary. All I really object to is when gov't encroaches in the private sector. Health care is the most recent example, but there's "talk" that private 401Ks and IRAs could be next.

    As for regulations, the more you pile on, the less "private" that facet of capitalism becomes. Health insurance with all of the mandates and prohibitions from buying across state lines is a good example. Regulations, like taxes, never seem to shrink - but only grow with time.
  • Spizzzo... Dan der... 2012/12/07 07:42:12
    Spizzzo BN-0
    OK. I'm VERY leery of assuming government is bad, but I'm also VERY leery of assuming it's good. I don't fear regulation as much as you, as SOME regulation is good for all.
  • Aurora Blu 2012/08/11 03:37:18 (edited)
    None of the above
    Aurora Blu
    +3
    I won't rave this trash! Obama is doing what is best for Obama, not the American people.He is an evil socialist who wants to detroy America and the American dream. He has no compassion for the American people whatsoever, but he shows compassion for the illegals just to get the votes. I have never seen a President stoop so low as he has.



    american dream compassion american people compassion illegals votes president stoop



    obama limbo
  • Spizzzo... Aurora Blu 2012/08/11 08:25:52
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    Get a brain, if you can, and prove your hate.
  • Aurora Blu Spizzzo... 2012/08/11 15:21:41
    Aurora Blu
    +1
    That's the thing, I have a brain. I won't rave this POS, nor will I vote for the POS you love so much.
  • Spizzzo... Aurora Blu 2012/11/24 07:59:38
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Still refusing to actually USE the brain you claim to have for other than mindless insults. Now THAT'S some quality thinking, there! NOT!!
  • Katie1234 2012/08/11 03:08:59
    Other opinion
    Katie1234
    +2
    Uh, he doesn't know what he's doing! Never has, never will! He's had prime ministers, rulers, etc. tell him he doesn't know what he's doing. So, obviously he doesn't. Of course the P.O.S . thinks he's doing good.
  • Spizzzo... Katie1234 2012/08/12 13:52:43 (edited)
    Spizzzo BN-0
    If he doesn't know what he is doing, then why do you deny that he's "doing what he thinks is best for america"? Are you so blinded with hate that you think that merely opposing your opinion amounts to anti-Americanism?

    *****AT THIS POINT, THE APPARENTLY COWARDLY 'KATIE 1234' CHOSES TO BLOCK ME RATHER THAN HEAR MY REPLY AND RESPOND LIKE A REASONABLE PERSON. PATHETIC.*****
  • Katie1234 Spizzzo... 2012/08/12 15:58:11
    Katie1234
    Are you like obsessed with people's hate or something? You don't even make sense! Lololol.
  • KNIGHTRYDER 2012/08/11 03:04:45
    Other opinion
    KNIGHTRYDER
    +1
    There is really no difference between any politician. They always do what is best for them.
  • KAREN JAMES 2012/08/11 02:57:24
    Yes he is doing what is best for America.
    KAREN JAMES
    +4
    And I will be doing the same when I vote for him again.
  • Katie1234 KAREN J... 2012/08/11 03:09:41
    Katie1234
    +4
    Wow! Congrats! You are officially an idiot!
  • Spizzzo... Katie1234 2012/08/11 08:28:10
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    OK, and YOU are officially a senseless and mindless hater--since you offer NO evidence for your extreme opposition. Oh, and you think personal insults are cool, apparently.
  • Katie1234 Spizzzo... 2012/08/11 16:15:48
    Katie1234
    No, I'm not a hater. He's the worst president EVER. And, for somebody to want him to stay in office another term, proves that that person is dumber than a doorknob.
  • Spizzzo... Katie1234 2012/08/12 13:54:54
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Thanks for proving in your own words that you are such an extreme mindless hater of your President, Barack Hussein Obama, that you are unable to evaluate facts or respond cogently to the issue here.
  • Katie1234 Spizzzo... 2012/08/12 16:05:28
    Katie1234
    I have facts...

    Obama has so far sealed these records...
    1) Selective Service Registration.
    2) Illinois Senate Schedule
    3) Illinois Senate Records
    4) Law practice client list
    5) Baptism Records
    6) Medical Records
    7) CERTIFIED COPY of original BIRTH CERTIFICATE (suspicious....)
    8) SIGNED EMBOSSED paper CEETIFICATION of LIVE BIRTH.

    If you don't think that's suspicious, then, I don't know what's wrong with you!
  • Spizzzo... Spizzzo... 2012/08/13 22:34:20
    Spizzzo BN-0
    *****AGAIN, NOTE KATIE 1234 BLOCKS ME HERE--SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE COURAGE TO OPPOSE ME... I WIN.*****
  • Faith ~... KAREN J... 2012/08/11 04:14:50
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +4
    You should have stayed in school.
  • Spizzzo... Faith ~... 2012/08/11 08:30:03
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    Why, so, unlike you, she might learn something more than she clearly already has? You are impervious to learning, it seems---you don't even try to apply your knowledge here, for example.
  • Faith ~... Spizzzo... 2012/08/11 15:32:16
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +2
    Lmao. Someone that continues to support obama despite everything that he has done to this country calling ME impervious to learning?!?! What a joke
  • Spizzzo... Faith ~... 2012/08/12 13:57:21
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Yes, since you mindlessly spout hate and a foregone conclusion without ANY proof. You clearly learned NOTHING in school--you don't even know how to make an argument. Pathetic.
  • Faith ~... Spizzzo... 2012/08/31 19:15:37
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    Where did I spout hate exactly? 33% of Americans on welfare, a 41% increase since January 2009. 42 consecutive months of unemployment above 8%, longest streak since the great depression. Highest levels of poverty in 50 years. Public debt added by the previous 43 presidents combined, 1789-2009, $6.307 trillion. Projected public debt added by obama, on term, $6.477 trillion. Great guy you're supporting there, moron.
  • Spizzzo... Faith ~... 2012/11/24 08:05:22
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Hate:

    "You should have stayed in school."
    "moron"

    As I suspect you know, your stats are cherry-picked in a highly biased way and sometimes wrong; and therefore don't prove a thing on their own. Thankfully, the People proved smart enough to know that on Nov 6th.
  • Katie1234 Spizzzo... 2012/08/11 16:16:26
    Katie1234
    You apparently don't apply ENOUGH knowledge , if any...
  • Spizzzo... Katie1234 2012/08/12 13:58:58
    Spizzzo BN-0
    You ignore actual knowledge, like most all Right-wingers do--so using actual knowledge is pretty useless with those like you. However, I have LOTS of knowledge and evidence for EVERYTHING I believe--what would you like to know?
  • Katie1234 Faith ~... 2012/08/11 16:14:04
    Katie1234
    Oh yeah!
  • Pat 2012/08/11 02:40:32
    Yes he is doing what is best for America.
    Pat
    +4
    I have no doubt in my mind that the President wants nothing but the best for the American people and that he is doing everything in his power to do just that.
  • Faith ~... Pat 2012/08/11 04:15:23
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +1
    Haha, thanks for the laugh.
  • Pat Faith ~... 2012/08/11 04:21:39
    Pat
    +2
    We'll see who's laughing on November 6th and who is crying in their beer.
  • Faith ~... Pat 2012/08/11 15:33:43
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +1
    If obama wins the country should be crying. The fact that you require a beer is your choice.
  • Katie1234 Pat 2012/08/11 16:17:10
    Katie1234
    +1
    Oh yeah, Obama (if he wins) will only win because of voter fraud.
  • Red Katie1234 2012/08/11 17:15:48
  • Pat Katie1234 2012/08/12 02:42:48
    Pat
    The only ones committing voter fraud are the Republicans who are trying to block legitimate, registered voters from voting. It you look at any statistics for voting fraud, they are almost non-existent. In fact, the GOP couldn't produce any in the state of Pennsylvania. It is the GOP that is committing fraud.
  • Katie1234 Pat 2012/08/12 16:07:59
    Katie1234
    Dude, that's a lie. Have you heard of ACORN? Yeah, they helped the prez win last election and they are voter frauding as we speak.

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-c...

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