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Foxhound BN0 2012/01/21 16:56:22
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  • U-Dog 2012/03/06 10:41:41
    U-Dog
    +2
    A dimwitted social[ist] repubican guarding liberty from a Marxist is like the fox keeping the snake away from the eggs in the hen house... no thanks!

    I'll be voting for liberty this year and not just another meaningless "lesser" evil.

    Ron Paul - 2012
  • abycinnamon BN-1 2012/01/23 20:07:01
  • Larry 2012/01/23 05:54:01
    Larry
    +1
    Limp Noodle 2012.
  • DDogbreath 2012/01/23 03:44:35
    DDogbreath
    +2
    Ron Paul 2012

    ron paul 2012
  • rhstarr 2012/01/23 03:10:50
    rhstarr
    Dont know much about this man. But I know I sure as hell will vote for anyone as long as it means Obama is out of office.
  • DDogbreath rhstarr 2012/01/23 03:51:59
    DDogbreath
    +1
    I hope you don't make the same mistake SC did.
    Hear this guy out he's got it right.

  • Foxhoun... DDogbreath 2012/01/24 00:44:41
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    Poor kid. Finding out about Santa was nothing compared to learning the truth about human nature.
  • SoD DDogbreath 2012/01/24 01:51:53
    SoD
    +1
    Bingo!
  • SoD rhstarr 2012/01/24 01:51:29
    SoD
    I have irrefutable evidence that you have an internet connection, and thus there is no excuse for your ignorance.
  • H H 2012/01/22 20:45:55
    H H
    +2
    Romney has proven himself in MA by getting elected governor as a Republican in a strongly leftist Democratic state. Conservatives need to back him because he is our best chance at defeating BO. The Left is unified, but conservatives are fractionated amongst different issues and different candidates. The continuance of that status quo will hand victory to the Dems, resulting in the further decline of the US towards the Third World.
  • DoxieDad 2012/01/22 19:41:43
    DoxieDad
    +1
    Lets Not try to back a candidate that can get this country out of its economic mess. Lets nominate a firebrand fanatic with a giant chip on his shoulder.
    angry newt
    Lets give Obie another four years to destroy what could be saved.
  • luvguins 2012/01/22 18:32:20
    luvguins
    +4
    Just what we don't need is a vulture in the White House feathering the nest of corporations more. Vulture capitalist
  • DoxieDad luvguins 2012/01/22 19:36:43
  • luvguins DoxieDad 2012/01/23 01:16:25
  • DoxieDad luvguins 2012/01/23 04:32:31
    DoxieDad
    +2
    DNC vision and change for the greater good
    government confiscation
  • luvguins DoxieDad 2012/01/23 04:45:28
  • DoxieDad luvguins 2012/01/23 13:40:46
  • Superman DoxieDad 2012/01/23 15:50:18
    Superman
    The bumper sticker game is about the most you can get out of Luvguins as far as "thought" is concerned.
  • luvguins DoxieDad 2012/01/23 21:27:19
    luvguins
    +3
    Aww, a Superman is pouting because I blocked him for insulting remarks. He doesn't accuse you of no thought for starting this. Obama pissing of Republicans
  • DoxieDad luvguins 2012/01/24 00:05:45
    DoxieDad
    +2
    I did my homework.
    dachshund with glasses
    I did not start this run with a vulcher poster.
    You're passionate about the President and I am not. I believe we need a change in management and you don't. So........
    We will see how our fellow Americans feel about it next November.
  • luvguins DoxieDad 2012/01/24 00:15:47
    luvguins
    +3
    Yes, we will. cat reading
  • DoxieDad luvguins 2012/01/24 00:17:31
    DoxieDad
    Amazing what we can find on the web, isn't? Love that pic. It has attitude written all over it. :o)
  • luvguins DoxieDad 2012/01/24 00:43:52
    luvguins
    +2
    That is a thoughtful doxie there. :)
  • cm luvguins 2012/02/05 15:38:17
  • luvguins cm 2012/02/05 16:33:23
  • SoD 2012/01/22 16:54:19
    SoD
    +3
    If you plan on voting for Mittens Romney, you might as well vote for Obama.
  • Foxhoun... SoD 2012/01/24 00:51:52
    Foxhound BN0
    hmmm i vote for romney, obama gets 1 less vote. i vote for obama and obama gets one more vote. lol you are not a neocon are you?
  • SoD Foxhoun... 2012/01/24 01:43:57
    SoD
    +2
    Romney and Obama are both progressives and pathological liars.

    If you vote for either, Ron Paul gets one less vote.

    I'm a classical liberal.
  • Rand SoD 2012/02/29 16:51:37
    Rand
    Romney will help restore America. But it still will take Americans across the Country to embrace the values of the Founders of this country. Romney is a very good man, Ron Paul is a very good man. Both can contribute to solving the problems we face in America. To lump Romney in with Obamaie is out there sir. I will support the winner of the primaries for the good of the country. Obama needs to be sent in to retirement with Carter and all other socialists.
  • Wolfman 2012/01/22 16:38:16
    Wolfman
    +3
    Anybody but Obie.
  • StarWarsBob 2012/01/22 16:33:17
    StarWarsBob
    +2
    Mitt Romney has little chance of winning in 2012. His proposals of reducing capital gains taxes and dividends taxes to zero will implode any chance of getting elected. He is just doing what the Republicans have been doing for decades - serving their constituents, the "haves and the have mores" as Bush put it.
  • SoD StarWar... 2012/01/22 23:17:14 (edited)
    SoD
    So you think returns on investments, much like property, ought to be taxed not once, not twice, but annually for the remainder of the owner's lifetime?

    That's a really good way to make retirees wholly dependent on the federal government.
  • StarWar... SoD 2012/01/23 01:09:26
    StarWarsBob
    +2
    The simple truth is that we would not have the debt we have today if it was not for Ronald Reagan and George W Bush and their tax cuts for the wealthy. Not only is there low capital gains taxes and dividends, but the wealthy can write off capital losses as well on their tax liability. How convenient for them. I would love to be able to go to Las Vegas and drop a grand on the craps tables and then write it off on my taxes. Stock market investments are the same as legal gambling.

    The whole convoluted tax structure is set up to benefit the wealthy. I'm 60 years old, and for the first 13 years of my life the highest tax rate for the wealthy was at 91%, and capital gains was at 25%. Then in 1965 the highest rate was lowered to 70%, and in 1968 capital gains was raised about a two points or so every year until 1972 when it was at 36.5% and the highest tax rate was lowered to 60%. In 1972, our national debt was $427 billions. In '76 capital gains was raised to 39.9% for two years, and then in '79 it was lowered to 28%. Less than a third of the country made enough money to be invested in the stock market at that time. By 1981, then the rich got real greedy with Reagan's tax cuts. Capitol gains was lowered to 23.7%, the lowest rate in my lifetime. In 1981, our national debt was at $997 ...

    The simple truth is that we would not have the debt we have today if it was not for Ronald Reagan and George W Bush and their tax cuts for the wealthy. Not only is there low capital gains taxes and dividends, but the wealthy can write off capital losses as well on their tax liability. How convenient for them. I would love to be able to go to Las Vegas and drop a grand on the craps tables and then write it off on my taxes. Stock market investments are the same as legal gambling.

    The whole convoluted tax structure is set up to benefit the wealthy. I'm 60 years old, and for the first 13 years of my life the highest tax rate for the wealthy was at 91%, and capital gains was at 25%. Then in 1965 the highest rate was lowered to 70%, and in 1968 capital gains was raised about a two points or so every year until 1972 when it was at 36.5% and the highest tax rate was lowered to 60%. In 1972, our national debt was $427 billions. In '76 capital gains was raised to 39.9% for two years, and then in '79 it was lowered to 28%. Less than a third of the country made enough money to be invested in the stock market at that time. By 1981, then the rich got real greedy with Reagan's tax cuts. Capitol gains was lowered to 23.7%, the lowest rate in my lifetime. In 1981, our national debt was at $997 billions. Then in '82 Reagan lowered capital gains again to 20%, and the highest tax bracket was lowered to 50%, and then the debt really started to grow. In '87 the highest tax bracket was lowered again to 38.5%, and then in '88 to 28%. Capital gains had to be increased to 28% from 20% in '87, as in '88 our national debt more than doubled in seven years to $2.6 trillions. Capital gains stayed at 28% until 1997, and in order to address the deficits every year the highest tax bracket was raised to 31% in '91 and '92. Then Clinton made a lot of conservative enemies when he raised the highest rate to 40% in '93. Then Bush got in office and lowered it twice to be at 35%, and in 2003 he lowered capital gains to 15%.

    Returns on investments are not taxed twice. That is a right wing myth. The income is taxed once, and the PROFITS from investments are taxed, but not twice. You are not taxed again on the amount of your investment, only any profits made after the initial investment. You invest $100,000 in the market, and then sell at $150,000, you are not taxed at $150,000, only the $50,000 profits are taxed as capital gains. Why do the rich always have to get the advantage and the special deals?
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  • Rand StarWar... 2012/01/23 02:06:06
    Rand
    StarWar: Have you ever employed people,? Have you owned a business that required you to take a substantial risk of your capaital ? In any of the small business's I owned we payed corporate tax on our profits of 30%, then distributions were made to those same partners, we paid capital gains on the distributions of 15%. Im 60 also, the last time I checked that was 45% I paid in taxes on the risk of my campital. With all do respect to those who have gains in realestate or stock investments, they pay 15% on the sale. It stocks are held for a short time , then you end up paying oridanry income taxes. Im not a book keeper, but if you want to bring capital back in to the US. Lower the corporate tax, reduce the complex regulatory system , and send Obama done the road to another country to ruin them. We need people who have large amounts of wealth to be willing to employ people to make a profit. Is that so hard to understand. The responsibility of a employer to his employees is very great. Taking from those who have been disiplined and giving to those who are not , is not right. Unless your are a socialist.
  • StarWar... Rand 2012/01/23 02:28:56
    StarWarsBob
    +1
    No, I have not owned a business or employed people. But it has been deregulation and tax cuts that has been the Republican mantra for decades, and they claim you should not tax the job creators. The problem is that their taxes have already been lowered to record levels, and where are the jobs? It's a race to the bottom and it's been that way for decades. In the last thirty years, the wealthy have increased their wealth by 275%, while the middle class has enjoyed a 40% increase in their worth. Taxes for small businesses have been cut several times with the stimulus packages, which some would argue were not big enough. It's been deregulation that has drove our economy into the ditch, especially with the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, and the Republicans are happy with keeping it in place. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act had another part of it, and that overturned parts of Glass-Stegall Act of '33 allowing banks to become "too big to fail". If Republicans get into power again, they will overturn the Dodd-Frank Act, and then it will be 2006-2008 all over again. It may take a few years to get there, but the results will be the same. Republicans claim that Democratic policies drive capital out of the country, but where is that capital going? Not to Europe, not to Japan, and I doubt they are sending it to China. While there are some good investments to be made in smaller markets like Brazil, they are few and far between.
  • SoD StarWar... 2012/01/23 12:26:26
    SoD
    "It's a race to the bottom and it's been that way for decades. In the last thirty years, the wealthy have increased their wealth by 275%, while the middle class has enjoyed a 40% increase in their worth."

    Something people always disregard when they talk about the race to the bottom and wealth disparity is that is that about half of those who were middle income or less thirty years ago are now middle income or more.
  • StarWar... SoD 2012/01/23 19:59:51
    StarWarsBob
    +1
    Actually, half of Americans live at or near the poverty level now. It was not that way ten or twenty or thirty years ago. As unions are busted across the country, the middle class wages have diminished. That is why there is public outrage at the Republican Governors in Ohio and Wisconsin and Indiana. Wisconsin's Governor Walker will be recalled this summer, and Ohio's Governor Kasich was opposed by his union busting legislation by 61% of voters.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-2...
  • SoD StarWar... 2012/01/23 21:03:51 (edited)
    SoD
    +1
    Less than 20% of the United States population lives at 125% of the federal poverty level or lower and less than 5% live between 100% and 125% of the federal poverty level. That means less than 15% of the population lives at or below the federal poverty level. If you are interested in real data from the US census, have a look. If you are only interested in fluff from the corrupt news media, I cannot help you.

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/ww...
  • StarWar... SoD 2012/01/23 22:00:13
    StarWarsBob
    +2
    If you read the article, they got their figures "based on a new supplemental measure by the Census Bureau that is designed to provide a fuller picture of poverty." I doubt the link you provided includes that new supplemental measure. I can't open the link because I don't have EXCEL on my computer.
    "The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs." I doubt the cold data from the census takes those things into consideration.

    What census data does show is that incomes for the middle class is dropping, by as much as 2.9% in the West from 2009 to 2010. That has been consistent for many years.
    http://www.census.gov/newsroo...

    I doesn't matter if it's going to be Romney, Gingrich or whomever, the Republicans are going to lose in November. The Republicans have shown themselves to put party above country time and time again with their quest to defeat Obama in November. It will backfire on them for sure.
  • SoD StarWar... 2012/01/23 22:10:33
    SoD
    +1
    Well at least it's not all about partisan politics for you.

    [sarcasm]

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