Rave this if You Think Trayvon Martin and His Family Deserve Justice!

Tryvon Martin was only a child.

Keep in mind the following....

1. Trayvon Martin was armed with a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea.
2. He had his cellphone upon him at the time of the incident.
3. His screams for help were clearly heard on 911 calls, and the police refused to release those calls to the public until they were sued by Trayvon's parents. They are legally required to make them available. By contrast, the 911 calls of the Ohio school shooting were published in less than 24 hours.
4. The police made no attempt to identify Trayvon after he was killed. They did not bother to find out where he was headed in the neighborhood, or if anyone around knew him.
5. They made no attempt to investigate the contents of his cellphone, find out who he spoke to most recently, or use it as a tool to contact his loved ones.
6. Trayvon Martin lay in the morgue as a nameless John Doe for three whole days, and was not identified until an anguished mother who could not find her son finally pressured the police into locating him for her.
7. Trayvon Martin's lifeless body was tested for drugs. Zimmerman, the killer, was never given even a simple alcohol test.
8. Zimmerman was released with the same clothes he wore at the time of the killing, and thus a key piece of evidence was immediately lost.
9. George Zimmerman was questioned and released upon his own word.
10. At least one witness who was interviewed by the police has stated on public record that she was corrected by a police officer when she asserted that it was Trayvon she heard screaming, not Zimmerman.

Some how the media right wants us to feel sorry for George?

Thank you for your kind response.

You are correct that this should not have happened. You are correct that fact checking is important.

Now let's look at Mr. Zimmerman's rights.

Firstly you should be aware that his group was not registered with Neighborhood Watch according to their spokesman. That is why the media changed to saying "self-appointed neighborhood watchman" http://www.thegrio.com/specia...

Beyond that, two things that you might want to consider, if you'd be so kind:

1. According to the "ear witness" and according to the tape of Zimmerman's conversation with police he did NOT identify himself, in fact, when Trayvon asked him why he was following him, Zimmerman did not answer the question at all - instead he demanded to know why Trayvon was "around" there. Policemen have to identify THEMSELVES and explain their actions if asked, by law. Don't you think the same should apply to a "self-appointed" neighborhood watchman? EVEN IF Trayvon did attack Zimmerman at that point (a much larger and as recent photos show buff man who was apparently openly carrying a handgun) -- didn't he have reason to? He had already told his g/f he was scared of the "large" man following him (Yes Trayvon was over 6' tall, he was also 140 lbs and 17 years old. My partner, back 20 some years ago, was 138 lbs and 5'9" -- he had a 28 inch waist..Trayvon was even thinner.) He told her he thought the man might "do something to him" -- which my son tells me means attack him. So now the guy comes up, Trayvon asks the man why he is following him and the guy doesn't say "Oh, I'm George Zimmerman, I'm a member of the local neighborhood watch group and I didn't recognize you so I was wondering who you are." Instead he says "What are you doing around here." It is also possible that he pushed Trayvon at that point. I find it difficult to believe that Trayvon attacked him immediately , not only because EVERY teenager of all races who knew Trayvon said he was easy going and non-violent, but also because in the process of whatever happened, he dropped his phone, which he prized, as my son prizes his. Regardless, I think given all the testimony I've heard, Trayvon (who was 7 houses from his own btw) was terrified, and I DO THINK he attacked Zimmerman at that point either after getting pushed or not, particularly considering that Zimmerman was armed, so he COULDN'T run, it just meant that he would be shot in the back. I think however that it is TRAYVON'S situation that exactly fits what "Stand Your Ground" was designed to protect, not Mr. Zimmerman. He was afraid of great bodily harm (the man had a gun - and he was right to be scared it turns out) and he was trapped in a public space. His actions were absolutely justified under Florida statute.

2. Many unusual things happened that night and following days after Trayvon was dead. The police chief, and the State attorney, neither on duty, got out of their houses and came (the chief to the scene, the attn possibly to the scene but definitely to the station), overruled the detective heading the investigation, telling him not to arrest and charge when he had decided to (He signed an affidavit that night saying he had been overruled and believed Zimmerman was lying about what was happening and should be charged with manslaughter).. The police failed to look for witnesses, failed to hold evidence (the gun and jacket), released Zimmerman on his own recognizance without charge, and subsequently held the body of the dead teenager for 3 days, even drug testing it, before the father got it back. In subsequent days they continued to fail to investigate, they never contacted the girl who was talking to Trayvon when the altercation started, AND they went so far as to pressure a (White) witness, who says she clearly heard that it was Trayvon crying for help and pleading for his life before the shot and is on the public record saying that police pressured her to change her story and when she wouldn't ignored it AND TOLD HER they weren't interested because it didn't match Mr. Zimmerman's story. While thinking about this second part of my response - please remember that Mr. Zimmerman's father is a retired judge.

As to the rest of your post

The police are pursuing the two black kids, and they should. Those kids should be captured and tried.

The killer of the two British kids IS in prison, for life. He will never get out. (I could hazard a guess as to why he killed them -- I've been around a while and I can see it looking at their picture together -- and I would bet you he was a bigot -- but no defense attorney would even introduce the defense anymore after its (thankfully) abysmal failure the last number of times its been tried)

There is no question that these are tragedies, just as Trayvon's death was.

The difference is, that police did or are doing what they should in those cases. In Trayvon's case, they didn't. If George Zimmerman had been arrested, gone to jail, the evidence gathered and he had gone to trial - there would be no outcry. In fact, that is all the family is asking. That is all people like me are asking. It's late now, I very much doubt that enough evidence can be gathered anymore - but at least arrest the man who killed the boy and try him with what you can still gather. How is that not just?

One final thing -- this push came about through social media, not because of the media itself I heard about this on Facebook, signed a petition online, and then we got more involved. Only after a million people were active online to fight for his memory and for justice for the family did the mainstream media start treating it seriously.

Oh, and a PS -- the article on the horrible man who killed the two British students (may they rest in light perpetual and return to the wheel renewed) says that Barack Obama is the most "bipartisan" AND the most "liberal" president in American history.

if I may speak to both of those things.

Firstly, bipartisan means that you are willing to work BETWEEN the parties. I agree that the president is. He is also MODESTLY liberal. It is hard to be more than modestly liberal and be bipartisan. I'm not bipartisan and I was originally Republican until a few years ago. If you take a look, an honest look, lay out the policies that Richard Nixon (one of the most infamous of conservatives) supported side by side with what Barack Obama supports -- you will be surprised to find that in general Nixon is more liberal than Obama. Just two examples then I'll let you go, sorry for keeping you.

1. Nixon openly supported guaranteed full employment. Obama does not and doesn't pretend to.
2. Nixon supported universal, single payer healthcare. Obama passed a privatized healthcare plan that does make things better, but that ignored the party base
AND that was entirely based on (whether they like it or not) Republican ideas. It wasn't just Romneycare -- a Republican oriented conservative Think Tank (The Heritage Foundation) originally proposed the individual mandate that Obama used. http://healthcarereform.proco...

Do a more thorough study sometime, if you wish.