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Rave This If You Think The Tea Party Members Are Hypocrites For Not Demanding Mitt Romney's Long Form Birth Certificate, College Transcripts, Tax Returns, and Offshore Bank Account Info ?

Che Guevara - Hero 2012/07/10 11:44:58
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  • Rebel Yell 2012/07/10 13:16:01
    YES, The Tea Party Members Are Hypocrites
    Rebel Yell
    +16
    Of course they are hypocritical but they are also amusing. I love their logic. When this has been brought up before, they become haughty and indignant and respond with comments such as.... " Everyone knows Mitt was born in Utah! " See there ... " everyone knows! That settles it ! Or they will say he revealed all of that back when he ran for the Senate. No... he did not.

    In '08, Candidate McCain went after Mitt and his hidden taxes. During the primaries, Rick Perry did the same. Even sleazy old Newt questioned Willard's character. They all know what a venture capitalist and snake oil salesman Mitt is. It's getting pretty bad when Newt pinches his nose when Mitt walks by.

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  • Che Gue... John Hall 2012/07/10 14:53:29
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +5
    The US Government is NOT a Business.
  • Q Che Gue... 2012/07/10 15:32:21
    Q
    +2
    Mitt Romneys a Shareholder type of capitalist when the nation needs a Stakeholder capitalist as president in order to do whats right for the country as opposed to just making profits for his shareholders.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/13...
  • John Hall Che Gue... 2012/07/10 15:39:22
    John Hall
    +1
    It's not then why give money to gm/chevy , solandra why spend money to get people to work .
  • Nameless John Hall 2012/07/10 16:30:41
    Nameless
    +1
    Ah, so that's how he screwed up Massachusetts and they dropped to near the very bottom in unemployment when he was in office there? I see....
  • Petrifi... John Hall 2012/07/10 16:53:02
    PetrifiedElephantPoop
    +2


    If you look at his tax percentage of near 15%....he'd better be giving to charities!!!! I am sure the $$$ orphanages in Switzerland, Bermuda and the Caymans are well taken care of...by Romney.
  • Bilingu... Petrifi... 2012/07/10 18:55:46
    Bilingual required sucks
    That is an AWESOME video!
  • beavith1 Q 2012/07/10 14:09:02
    beavith1
    +3
    if you or your 401k invests in things like mutual funds, you probably have money overseas.

    its inaccurate to say that there is anything wrong about how his assets are spread, if its declared to the IRS.

    if he's hiding stuff overseas, he's breaking the law and the IRS would be all over him.

    his business experience DOES make him the better man for the job. Obama's been sitting there for nearly four years and he is still clueless.
  • Q beavith1 2012/07/10 14:18:22
    Q
    +4
    So what if you think this bears no further scrunity, it seems the public does care about them. In fact its unprecedented for a presidential candidate to have them. The Romney campaign knew full well that the media would look into them after he became the official republican candidate.

    I wonder what the net total of Mitts record on job creation is while he was at Bain Capital taking into consideration the numbers of jobs lost by plant closings and outresourced jobs since all he wants to talk about are the sucesses like Staples and Sports authority?
  • beavith1 Q 2012/07/10 14:34:49
    beavith1
    +3
    it seems you guys are beating a dead horse.

    unprecedented? if you have mutual funds, or a 401k, i can guarantee that YOU have money overseas, too.

    the fact that the guy makes $22M a year in mostly capital gains means its VERY likely he has money spread around the globe.

    thanks to globalization of money markets, this should be no surprise to anyone.

    yet... you guys carry on as if its some sort of issue.

    ahh jeez. do you know what venture capital does? it takes financial resources and business smarts and applies them in very different ways. some, like Bain's investment in Staples, provide startup and growth funding to take businesses from one level to the next. another aspect is to use their business acumen to turn struggling companies around.

    do you knw how they find these struggling companies? the owners go to Bain and work out a deal. sometimes, those owners have trashed the company so badly, Bain gets to euthanize that company. and just like dung beetles or crows, they realize the last value of that company, because if they didn't do it, someone else will.

    killing a company is one of the last options available TO a VC because it doesn't do what VC wants- to realize a long term steady stream of income.

    that's why Mittens gets paid in capital gains. he (they) did that work up...



    it seems you guys are beating a dead horse.

    unprecedented? if you have mutual funds, or a 401k, i can guarantee that YOU have money overseas, too.

    the fact that the guy makes $22M a year in mostly capital gains means its VERY likely he has money spread around the globe.

    thanks to globalization of money markets, this should be no surprise to anyone.

    yet... you guys carry on as if its some sort of issue.

    ahh jeez. do you know what venture capital does? it takes financial resources and business smarts and applies them in very different ways. some, like Bain's investment in Staples, provide startup and growth funding to take businesses from one level to the next. another aspect is to use their business acumen to turn struggling companies around.

    do you knw how they find these struggling companies? the owners go to Bain and work out a deal. sometimes, those owners have trashed the company so badly, Bain gets to euthanize that company. and just like dung beetles or crows, they realize the last value of that company, because if they didn't do it, someone else will.

    killing a company is one of the last options available TO a VC because it doesn't do what VC wants- to realize a long term steady stream of income.

    that's why Mittens gets paid in capital gains. he (they) did that work up front.

    yet... you guys carry on like its some sort of issue...

    dragging the Mittster down because Obama can't talk about any sort of real economic success, i suppose, is a political strategy, but THAT'S just wrong... Obama has failed. its time for the next guy.
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  • Q beavith1 2012/07/10 15:06:03
    Q
    +2
    And sometimes they load a viable company with so much debt that they have to file for bankruptcy laying off the employees and raiding their pension funds sticking us taxpayers with the cost of covering the pension funds.

    All the while raking in millions in fees at the expense of the laid off workers and taxpayers who ultimately paid for the looted pension funds.

    After questionable results when they first started running the Bain ads it seems they are staring to influence public opinion in the swing states that they are concentrating the ads in currently. Obama leads in all but two of the ten swing states according to an average of the polls by real clear politics.

    Hmmmm.....
  • beavith1 Q 2012/07/10 15:38:40
    beavith1
    +1
    so the democrat fable goes.

    i know. its important to show him as a corporate raider.

    Romney is no "Chain Saw Al' Dunlap.

    a successful VC company, which Bain is, would prefer a long term stream of income.

    where you get hung up is on that word 'viable'. the owners may think its viable. the employees may believe it, too, but its the guy that comes up with the cash that takes over that makes that call.

    what if the owner of that company realized it was worth more dead than alive? would he be doing something wrong if he liquidated? no.

    business's main point is NOT as an employment agency. it exists to return wealth to the stockholder.

    November is still a loooong way off. every month of lousy job reports can't be helping him, and there is no reason to expect anything to improve. he's that bad.
  • Q beavith1 2012/07/10 15:50:25
    Q
    +2
    A US president should not run the country as a stakeholder capitalist like Mitt is. A president should have different priorities that take in consideration as to whats in America's best long term interest as opposed to short term financial gains.
  • beavith1 Q 2012/07/10 18:14:16
    beavith1
    +1
    you don't know that. i'm not even sure that i've heard anything LIKE that from Romney or the campaign.

    i suppose that's more campaign rhetoric.

    and you think Obama has any sort of goal in mind as he's dithered these last four years?
  • Q beavith1 2012/07/10 19:07:38 (edited)
    Q
    +1
    Willard is claiming that he knows how to create private sector jobs using his time at Bain as an example when in fact a closer examination of his time at Bain fails to support that assertion. When you take into consideration the plant closings and laid off employees and his starting the trend of outsourcing it just isn't true.

    And the president has hardly "dithered" the last four years, he ended the war in Iraq and fulfilled his promise to remove all combat troops on schedule. Revamped our strategy in Afghanistan and is working towards removing the troops starting in 2014 when before it was an endless quagmire with no end in sight. Along with dealing with the Arab spring which was a handful in itself.

    Then there was his getting the ACA healthcare reform into law something that's been attempted by what 6 other presidents who all all failed. Sure its imperfect but its a start to controlling the ever increasing cost since we spend more on healthcare than anyone else in the world yet rank 32nd on standards of care. Sure we have the best healthcare in the world...that is for the few who can afford it while millions end up at the emergency room as a last resort which is insanely expensive and ineffective.

    Then of course there was his attempt to right the economy that was crashing when ...




    Willard is claiming that he knows how to create private sector jobs using his time at Bain as an example when in fact a closer examination of his time at Bain fails to support that assertion. When you take into consideration the plant closings and laid off employees and his starting the trend of outsourcing it just isn't true.

    And the president has hardly "dithered" the last four years, he ended the war in Iraq and fulfilled his promise to remove all combat troops on schedule. Revamped our strategy in Afghanistan and is working towards removing the troops starting in 2014 when before it was an endless quagmire with no end in sight. Along with dealing with the Arab spring which was a handful in itself.

    Then there was his getting the ACA healthcare reform into law something that's been attempted by what 6 other presidents who all all failed. Sure its imperfect but its a start to controlling the ever increasing cost since we spend more on healthcare than anyone else in the world yet rank 32nd on standards of care. Sure we have the best healthcare in the world...that is for the few who can afford it while millions end up at the emergency room as a last resort which is insanely expensive and ineffective.

    Then of course there was his attempt to right the economy that was crashing when he took office without a shred of help from the GOP who put politics ahead of doing whats right for America during a time of crisis.

    OK now I'm starting to rant a bit so I'll back off. But I think you get my point whether you agree with it or not. If not oh well we have been doing this two step so to speak for as long as we
    have been posting here, why should today be any different?

    Edit note: sorry but I've switched from Google Chrome to Firefox and its spell check is giving me fits:) Grrrr.....
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  • beavith1 Q 2012/07/11 03:25:51
    beavith1
    +1
    compared to Obama who has never run a lemonade stand?

    yeah. i gotta go with Romney on that one.

    every Staples you drive by, you ought to think about that bastard Romney.

    Romney didn't start outsourcing! not even close. globalization has been in force since the late 80s. as far as this election cycle is concerned, it started yesterday, even if the outsourcing was high laobor dead end jobs... its funny how little the democrats note the impact of automation on the number of 'good jobs'. of course, that doesn't feed the democrat campaign machine...

    Obama ended the war in Iraq rght on GWBs schedule. out in 2014? great. all the taliban has to do is wait us out... brilliant. yeah. he dealt with the Arab spring. he ignored teh Iranian students, wrung his hands as Mubarekk went down, acted as a gas station for NATO in Libya, and has done nothing in Syria. yeah. that's leadership...

    PPACA is dysfunctional legislation. you guys are dancing around in circles for what you got, but all it does is, theoretically provide access. it does nothing to cost or care quality.

    nope. he doesn't get credit for saving us from something that didn't happen. still. he's the guy that 'earned a Nobel Peace prize for using drones to kill opponents in allied countries and using those same drones to kill AMericans without a trial...

    yeah. he's aces...
  • Q beavith1 2012/07/11 03:47:00 (edited)
    Q
    Those drone attacks decimated Al Qaeda's top leaders which Bush dropped the ball on despite his cowboy rhetoric about "Dead or Alive or Smoking em out of their holes"

    And those "Americans" were committing treason and were a serious threat to western society with their bomb making and failed attempts at using them while hiding out in a lawless land where there was little if any hope of catching them.

    And the Bush administration allowed OBL escape at the battle of Tora Bora when he was cornered because Rumsfeld denied the CIA field commanders request for the tenth mountain division to block off their escape route/mountain passes into Pakistan. He let our Eastern alliance allies do it even though their loyalty was in question resulting in the quagmire with no end in site.
  • beavith1 Q 2012/07/11 04:00:17
    beavith1
    +1
    yeah. bravo for the Nobel peace prize winner.

    killing Americans without a trial? that's really a new take...

    Clinton let him loose in the 1990s. i guess we could play woulda coulda shoulda all night...

    Pakistan is a real friend...
  • Rebel Yell John Hall 2012/07/10 13:17:30
    Rebel Yell
    +2
    He has released 2010 and gave an "estimate" for 2011.
  • Jo John Hall 2012/07/10 14:38:15
    Jo
    +2
    thats not why you dont care about Romney's. The point is, if it was such a big deal for Obama, it should be just as big a deal for anybody else.
  • John Hall Jo 2012/07/10 14:49:19
    John Hall
    +1
    I would like to see Romney tell Obama for every record you unseal I will do the same .
  • findthe... John Hall 2012/07/10 14:43:51
    findthelight2000
    +3
    Then you don't know the truth. Romney released only one tax return for his Presidential run this year, and it shows that he has a lot to hide and that he is most likely an UnAmerican tax dodger. Romney did release a Birth Certificate, but if they couldn't accept President Obama's short-form birth certificate why should we accept Romney's short-form birth certificate?
  • John Hall findthe... 2012/07/10 14:51:57
    John Hall
    +2
    I've never questioned obamas birth and I won't with Romney and would you call me and other people un-American if we have investments from 401k and profit/pension plans in overseas investments .
  • findthe... John Hall 2012/07/10 15:19:51
    findthelight2000
    +2
    That is not what Romney is hiding, and we are talking a lot more money here. The fact is..., no one with even a thought of running for POTUS should ever have overseas bank accounts for the purpose of escaping their duty as an American Citizen.

    As for the 401K, you will still have to pay the taxes when you collect on that account. Romney will never have to pay taxes on his hundreds of millions overseas.
  • John Hall findthe... 2012/07/10 15:46:01
    John Hall
    +1
    Don't worry about how Romney spends his hard earned money worry about how Obama and this goverment spends and wastes ours .
  • findthe... John Hall 2012/07/10 15:52:01
    findthelight2000
    +4
    Hard-earned? Hell, Romney made his money cheating American citizens and hurting our economy! That means he made his money off the backs of hard-working tax-payers and stealing from us tax-payers!
  • Q John Hall 2012/07/10 16:45:04
    Q
    +1
    No ones worried about how Willard spends his money, they're concerned about how he made it while at Bain Capital and how he might be manipulating the system in order to avoid paying taxes on it.
  • Che Gue... John Hall 2012/07/10 14:52:51
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    Okay , if Mitt Romney released his Long Form Birth Certificate, College Transcripts, Tax Returns, and Offshore Bank Account Info then please post them.
  • John Hall Che Gue... 2012/07/10 14:59:40
    John Hall
    +1
    I said I believe he put them out it's a dead issue with me just like it was with Obama and I don't do the leg work for people . I find the best thing is to look it up yourself that way you know truth from lies .
  • findthe... John Hall 2012/07/10 15:21:14
    findthelight2000
    +3
    So now that you don't have a leg to stand on, you want to get away with the "I never believed the birther stuff anyway" excuse?
  • John Hall findthe... 2012/07/10 15:55:01
    John Hall
    +1
    This is what I will say to you and others who question mitt romney's character . How dare you when you didn't even question anything about Obama . Don't ask what you can't give and what you didn't do yourself .
  • findthe... John Hall 2012/07/10 16:04:03
    findthelight2000
    +1
    Every conspiracy theory you conservatives try to link to President Obama has failed. Why should we question his honesty and integrity when there is no real reason to do so? Stop destroying your mind by thinking up new fictional things to get Obama on, y7ou are making yourselves look stupid!
  • Che Gue... John Hall 2012/07/10 15:43:40
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +2
    So you have NO documents or any type of evidence. That is what I thought.
  • oldrwizr John Hall 2012/07/10 15:28:28
    oldrwizr
    +3
    No, he has not. Show your sources.
  • Q oldrwizr 2012/07/10 16:47:09
    Q
    +1
    Didn't you read where he wrote that he knows for a fact that Mitt Romney released several years of his tax returns? LOL...
  • Bilingu... Che Gue... 2012/07/10 14:33:48
    Bilingual required sucks
    +4
    You forgot that we need an investigation into the Mormon church's plans to take over the US Government.

    (Hey if the Teabaggers can make up crazy conspiracy theories so can I )
  • beavith1 Bilingu... 2012/07/10 14:51:34
  • Tarheel Bilingu... 2012/07/11 22:21:23
    Tarheel
    Well, it is old history, but the Mormons led the biggest massacre against Americans in the U.S. before 9/11 which ironically was on Sept. 11th in the 1800's
  • Bilingu... Tarheel 2012/07/11 23:16:01
    Bilingual required sucks
    That counts as an attempt, take Mitt off the ticket!
  • Tarheel Bilingu... 2012/07/11 23:34:39
    Tarheel
    Nah, I can't think you can hold it against Mitt Romney, but I'm not a big fan of Mormons. And it was a horrible episode in history that Mormons massacred Christians.
  • Bilingu... Tarheel 2012/07/11 23:55:40
    Bilingual required sucks
    Yeah that's why an entire town stormed the jail where Joseph Smith was being held, shot several holes in him and gave him a one-way ticket back to Kolob.

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