Rave this: If you think the Demacrat controlled Labor Unions, had anything to do with all the manufacturing jobs going overseas.

I can't believe the comments you come up with. Your such a miserable excuse for a human that it's difficult to not wish bad misfortunes upon you!

You are more then welcome to move to China. I will send you a couple of bucks to get your polluted thinking sent over there.

My polluted thinking?

Lets see if I can simplify it so you understand. Ill turn it around.

You have two job offers: First) you are offered 50 dollars an hour to work 6 hours a day, 4 days a week. You get solid benefits, a 401K plan, and a great pension after 15 years of working there.

Second) Its an assembly job- you get paid 7.50 an hour and its backbreaking work. Every day is the same. You only get 39 hours a week because the boss doesnt want to give you benefits. You can barely make enough to feed your family.

You work at job 2 currently. You are offered job 1. Would you take It?

Congratulations- if you took it you are just like those GREEDY businesses that want to make more money. You should feel very dirty right now. /sacrasm off.

1. Unless you are in the mining business I doubt you will make fifty bucks an hour.
2. Employers will only offer a competitive wage if they have too.
3. The fear of Unions keeps wages and benfits high.
4. Please show me that job at 6 hours a day, 4 days a week, with solid benefits, a 401K plan, and a great pension after 15 years of working there. YOU CAN'T because it dose not exist.

I hate to say it bus of course they did. I'm all for workers getting a fair shake, but in times when people should just be happy to have a job at all, the unions have demanded the lot.

You better believe it.

It's all about the distribution of wealth from richer countries to poorer countries for 10 World Unions then over to a One World Government. Unions are for the control of people, Hitler used them for that very purpose.

Yes. Tie the hands of companies to be competitive, then watch the President make excuses when he can't get jobs to grow (ie. "Solyndra wasn't my fault because the Chinese solar panels are cheaper and my rich supporters didn't buy Solyndra's product- or the Volt- or Ener1 products....". Fact: IF GM didn't go thru managed bankruptcy & the Unions not forced to CAVE & COMPROMISE, no way would they have stayed in business OR made record profits. The money the President gave them (OUR MONEY), simply bought them time to function during bankruptcy - it did not sove the problem.

It's true... the more labor unions blackmail corporations, the more those corporations want to move someplace where they can't be blackmailed, like to another country.

"Labor Unions" is just a euphemism for "Organized Crime"

Only 12% of our country belongs to a union.

How can they influence anything?

They do a pretty damn good job of it be bribing Politicians.. Yeah.. They are ONLY 12% of the entire work force but look what they did to BOEING when they wanted to open a new plant in SOuth Carolina.. LOOK at what the UNION controlled LRB is doing to INCREASE the Union Influence over Business..

There is NO doubt that Unions and Government SHOULD be partners in crime..

Boeing wanted to move to South Carolina for the sole reason to lay off union workers and save some money on payroll.

Which happens to be illegal.

The union acted exactly as it is designed to do in that instance.

The labor relations board is a government body that protects workers. If workers cannot join forces they would have no leverage in the negotiation process.

Not ONE Union Worker was going to be laid off.. Not ONE Union Contract was going to be effected.. Not ONE plant was being shut down..

ALL of that were UNION and DEMOCRAT Lies..

The Company was NOT moving a Plant.. They were building a completely NEW Plant..

And NO.. The National Labor Relations Board is NOT a federal body that' supposed to protect the workers.. It's supposed to be a NUETRAL politically unbiased Agency that protects the RELATIONSHIP between the Unions and the Businesses..

An Agency that comes in when negotiations stall and mediates a settlement that is acceptable to ALL sides..

They were going to move jobs from the union shop to the non-union shop.

That is a fact.


I'll agree with your comments on the nlrb. But in being neutral, it means watching for damaging actions from either side. And there was evidence that Boeings actions were 1. damaging to labor, 2. retribution for grievances filed at the union plant.

The National Labor Relations Board is an independent federal agency created in 1935 by Congress to administer the National Labor Relations Act, the basic law governing relations between labor unions and the employers whose operations influence interstate commerce.
The statute guarantees the right of employees to organize and to bargain collectively with their employers or to refrain from all such activity. Generally applying to all employers involved in interstate commerce -- other than airlines, railroads, agriculture, and government -- the Act carries out the national labor policy of assuring free choice and encouraging collective bargaining for maintaining industrial peace.


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"They were going to move jobs from the union shop to the non-union shop. "

It was NEVER a fact.. It was a CLAIM by the Unions and one for which they could not have POSSIBLY had any evidence to back up since the whole controversy happened BEFORE the move was made..

Ok. Shouldnt' claims be investigated?

NOT if the claims are OBVIOUSLY not true to begin with,, NO..

Obvious is in the eye of the investigator.

The bush administration thought the reports that bin laden was going to fly a plane into a building were obviously incorrect...

Were they????

Hmmm..

Didn't I hear something,,,,, what WAS that,,, oh yeah..

Didn't i hear just over a YEAR ago that bin-Laden was killed in Pakistan by SEAL team 6 ??

OBVIOUSLY.. bin-Laden did NOT fly a plane into a building

I think you knew what I meant.

He masterminded the event.

When don't even really know THAT.. Last I heard,, the mastermind of 9/11 is currently on trial at Gitmo..

A guy by the name of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or KSM as he's commonly called..

The ONLY thing we know for SURE about bin-Ladin is that at ONE time WE thought he headed the al-Qeada Network but since 9/11 it seems that the whole time he was not much more then a figurehead for the cause....

Well it still would have been a good idea to investigate don't you think?

Not much sense when the guy you want to investigate has a NINE Millimeter hole through his head,, ain't it??

The FACT of the matter IS that Clinton had THREE occasions to take custody of Osama before 9/11 but AFTER his famous "America has no stomach for a fight" comment and refused..

AMAZING How the Left wants to shove ALL the blame for 9/11 on a guy in office for barely 10 months THEN cheer Obama when HE blames Bush after FOUR YEARS..

A very good question. An answer doesn't come to mind, but I wonder are unions controlled by the Democratic party OR is the Democratic party controlled by unions?

Ah! A very very good question!

The FIRST question that came to my mind... WHO'S controlling WHOM?????

Trade Unions, Job Security Laws, the Minimum wage, and lack of people to work in them - everyone's overqualified and has gone to University, and they won't hire those types to do manual labour, unless they played Rugby/American Football...

You're nuts, right.

Please note the lack of a question mark. It was intentional.

When an industry is unionized, the union has a monopoly on the labor. For example, the big three US automakers are unionized. There is only one union that represents auto workers. That puts the choice of the auto companies to either meet the demands of their only source of labor. Or don't build cars. Therefore it is easier to build cars in Mexico or Canada.

The unions are only concerned with pillaging the business and not with the long term health of the business. Then they like to piss and moan when layoffs come.

Most hardcore Democrat policies are anti-business. Unions are just one.

The DNC is another.

Yes. However, it is inaccurate to say Democrats are completely anti-business. For example, Democrats don't seem to have an issue with Hollywood millionaires who make more money for reciting lines for half a year than most will in their entire lives. Nor do they have issue with millionaire executives who got rich off of government handouts then bankrupted Solyndra.

*Democrat

Demoncat.

*Demo cats

In the begining, labor unions got laws passed that made companies treat their employees fairly. That was good.

Then the unions used many of those laws to put themselves in a position to blackmail the companies for higher and higher wages and other benifits. Before the bailout of GM and Chrysler, UAW (the U ain't workin' union) members were getting 3 times min. wage, or $21.30 per hour for unskilled jobs the unions also dictated to the companies that extra employees could not be hired to fill other shifts so their current members were getting paid time and half for a lot of their work and double time for some of it. Life in Flint and Detroit MI was good, a high school drop out could make more money than most college grads.

Then the same party that passed the labor laws, removed the tariffs from imported goods, forcing the companies to compete with overseas companies. If the companies want to survive, they have to move where the labor and materials are cheap.

Good Post!.....and greedy unions are self distructive.

Possibly. Complaining to a certain point is fine, like hand getting chopped off, but to a certain point you just got to grip your teeth and bear it.

Stupid Stupid Stupid, they went over there because of lax regulations and cheap labor. if you are willing too work for two dollars an hour man up.

Excellent.