Rave this if you think SH conservatives can't do anymore to Obama then rant!
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How many rants does it take to become utterly useless SH conservative, because they can't say anything positive about conservatives and focus way too much on Obama??
Top Opinion
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Dagon 2012/06/25 18:32:38
Who's Lib?
Still can't say anything? Go ahead.. post another rant... keep proving my point.
Or a socialist, progressive one of your handy left wing tags You are using this week....
Please prove that I'm one...
It would be more accurate just to say You are a leftist...
Yet I supported John Huntsman... But that's not good enough for your kind.... It's has to be your way or else...
Nobody can have any other mindset... See, that's your problem....
Get a clue.
Then what is Your mindset?
My mindset... To get this nation united again... To stop all this ideological BS between the partisans...
Is that leftist? No it's not!
You said,
http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
That's BS, all You are doing here is deflecting Obama's record and trying to make the election all about Mitt Romney....
You say "Obama has opened the door"; Bull, he has been the most devisive and dividing President in my memory.
Mitt Romney has shown exceptional ability to lead and unite, He has pulled losing situations together and made them succeed; He has shown compassion and the ability to work with opposing ideologies.... none of these has Obama exhibited.
Now let's look at my entire comment...
---Obama is the better choice... Why? Because not one man is going to be able to resolve what's wrong... And no I'm not a Lib... I'm coming from this in the middle..
See I realize it's more then putting a man in office... and from the last 3 1/2 years Obama been doing nothing but dealing with Obstructionist.
---The real problem in this nation is Congress and the American people.
Meaning Congress and Americans like yourself are the problem....
---If your divided, how do you expect those who don't agree with your ideology to support your cause.
Yes how do we deal with division? In your mind, replace all Liberals with conservative.. Problem solved...
In Liberals minds replace all conservatives with Liberals... problem solved...
Yet Americans are made up of more then just Liberals or Conservatives.... But you don't seem to get that...
---Obama has open the door... You may not like his ideology but at least to me he's proven that he wants us to come together.
Meaning Obstructionist on the right are the ones not wanting to come together...
---On the other side, what has Mitt done to open the door to those who oppose him?
Yes Mitt worked with Liberals... and Mitt has said many...
Now let's look at my entire comment...
---Obama is the better choice... Why? Because not one man is going to be able to resolve what's wrong... And no I'm not a Lib... I'm coming from this in the middle..
See I realize it's more then putting a man in office... and from the last 3 1/2 years Obama been doing nothing but dealing with Obstructionist.
---The real problem in this nation is Congress and the American people.
Meaning Congress and Americans like yourself are the problem....
---If your divided, how do you expect those who don't agree with your ideology to support your cause.
Yes how do we deal with division? In your mind, replace all Liberals with conservative.. Problem solved...
In Liberals minds replace all conservatives with Liberals... problem solved...
Yet Americans are made up of more then just Liberals or Conservatives.... But you don't seem to get that...
---Obama has open the door... You may not like his ideology but at least to me he's proven that he wants us to come together.
Meaning Obstructionist on the right are the ones not wanting to come together...
---On the other side, what has Mitt done to open the door to those who oppose him?
Yes Mitt worked with Liberals... and Mitt has said many things publicly that he's reversed himself on.(flip/flop).
Why should anyone believe anything coming from this man.
So believe what you want... People like you sicken me.. and it's not a leftist thing... it's an American one.
First, You must be a leftist to think Obama is trying to do anything but have the government control every aspect of your life.
Obamacare solved NOTHING... there will still be 22-27million without coverage, no controls on actual healthcare costs, no solution for Medicare.... please, they didn't even read the bill before the idiots voted to pass it.
Second, your statement, "Meaning Congress and Americans like yourself are the problem....", isn't that the opposition of both sides? Your statement just covers the opposing viewpoint.
What I would really like to know is what door Obama opened, to Communism maybe!
Obama has evolved "flip/flop" on many things and they are available in his own words.
Obama has lied about many things, why should we believe him.
Obama has all but destroyed capitalism in this country, why allow him the time to finish the job?
Obama does not reflect American values at all.
I knew... LMAO... Yes I knew... but you didn't realize I also knew that someone like you would swallow the bait.
You just don't get it do you.. LMAO...
I seen what republicans have done... 110th and 111th Senate setting the record number of Filibusters. Now that's something you can't hide...
Obstructionist GOP senators and Obama have BOTH failed to end this divide of partisan politics...
It's funny how clueless you are about this, because all you see are Liberals everywhere...
Boo! ----> there goes a Liberal... Be scared.. LMAO!
LMAO.... Got it.
The cloture vote and filibuster was a problem started in 1970.... It has gone both ways and mainly increased on both sides of the isle. Most filibusters were short lived and used to force debate.
But here's what interesting...
You show the chart, and it's been pretty much flat line... but doesn't show the numbers since Obama took office...
I wonder why? Trying to take away the power of my point I see... Deceptive...
Try again.
The numbers are either right or wrong... from the senate website.
When we examine the Senate record since 1989, it’s clear that filibusters are a way of doing business for the minority party. The 107th congress breaks the pattern as a result of a 50/50 split over the two-year period, but the volume of filibusters is still within normal levels to that point.
The 110th congress was record-setting with its 139 filibusters by the Republicans, but it’s incorrect to say that this was a Republican plan to obstruct President Obama since he had yet to be elected. Consider this another complication in interpreting filibuster data since it’s not realistic to say that Republican Senators were trying to obstruct President Bush’s agenda.
Filibustering the 111th Congress
The 111th congress, during President Obama’s first two years, is a bit of a special case. In terms of my methodology, there were several factors that affected whether or not there were 41 Senators in the minority party at any given time, including: one disputed election, two deaths, one resignation, and one party change. While the 111th congress came close to matching the record-breaking filibuster total of the 110th congress, they are spread across both parties, as the followi...
The numbers are either right or wrong... from the senate website.
When we examine the Senate record since 1989, it’s clear that filibusters are a way of doing business for the minority party. The 107th congress breaks the pattern as a result of a 50/50 split over the two-year period, but the volume of filibusters is still within normal levels to that point.
The 110th congress was record-setting with its 139 filibusters by the Republicans, but it’s incorrect to say that this was a Republican plan to obstruct President Obama since he had yet to be elected. Consider this another complication in interpreting filibuster data since it’s not realistic to say that Republican Senators were trying to obstruct President Bush’s agenda.
Filibustering the 111th Congress
The 111th congress, during President Obama’s first two years, is a bit of a special case. In terms of my methodology, there were several factors that affected whether or not there were 41 Senators in the minority party at any given time, including: one disputed election, two deaths, one resignation, and one party change. While the 111th congress came close to matching the record-breaking filibuster total of the 110th congress, they are spread across both parties, as the following chart demonstrates.
It’s clear to me that someone who claims Republicans have obstructed President Obama with a record number of filibusters simply doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Like just about everything in politics, both parties take advantage of the tools at their disposal to accomplish their ends, and prevent the opposition from accomplishing theirs. Sounds like politics as usual to me.
http://heathenrepublican.blog...
First lets review FULL facts instead of half truths... or as you call it, taking advantage...
http://www.senate.gov/pagelay...
http://www.senate.gov/pagelay...
Now what's there not to understand since you think your the only one that gets it?
The record speaks for itself... Reid been doing everything he can to bust the record busting motions. It's amazing to see how many "job" bill that Reid had to file closure on...
But no... you rather rant and toss Redd Herrings against Obama for ideological partisan advantage..
See, your not fooling anyone. And I don't expect anything more realistic than ideological psycho pop from you.
Most of the threats of filibuster weren't done because of the bills themselves but the amendments and riders that were attached without debate.
This entire argument about the Republicans being obstructionists, because they are defending their values, is a leftist created 'red herring' but fully expected from the master manipulators.
You avoided that real issues on the filibustering of "job" bills.
Look at the charts... the proof is there... no manipulation required. Yet, who's the one really manipulating?
Tell us ole chap how many Job bills have been pass... thus actually helping Americans find jobs? Or is it just about protecting your ideological partisan way of life, and just screw the rest of us?
Obama's method of spending taxpayer money on his crazy plans has not worked, the Government can NOT create lasting jobs.... period.
You ever think why it's come down to this? The ideological divide?
Our best years were when we ALL worked together... Both sides have swallowed the poison pill of decent...
You know it's wrong... but still you support divide.
Here's a little of what I've learn on SH about one of our most intellectual founders..
---While Washington accepts the fact that it is natural for people to organize and operate within groups like political parties, he also argues that every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and has sought to repress them because of their tendency to seek more power than other groups and take revenge on political opponents.
Again Both parties have displayed this!
or dictatorship?
Did Washington?
Once we gained our independence and the constitution was adopted we saw the differences in feelings and opinions; how would You eliminate those differences?
In the 90's it changed forever... the divided widen and even through differences still were resolved, the course of hate was set in stone.
Today we have lost the ability to compromise.
There is one party that has decided to divide the country into minorities,the rich and the poor, the worker and the executive.. it's a strategy that is well tested and proven in the past.... create a demon and blame everything that happens on that opposition. That state of mind has been allowed to be part of our childrens education, and it has been aimed at the kindness and guilt of the American people, if that continues to work we are doomed as a country.
You really didn't think I would see what your up to...
LMAO...
No, I'm not going to blame one party... BOTH SUCK..
That's what deceptive people do. And that's why YOUR party can't be trusted.
I'm just trying to find out how You would get from point A to point B in Your utopia.
What's YOUR party????? or don't You have one Your willing to admit?
Independents pick from all parties.
What You trying to do is simply say, give up Your ideology and follow mine....
LMAO......
I like fiscal conservative ideals, but I think their conservative socialist ways are something I can never support.
See I can take something from all parties and not swallow the lemming poison pill that converts all of ya into lemmings.