Healthcare is pretty easy to get. Walk into the ER. Non-Emergency care just requires money or insurance. Sometimes you dont need any money at all. The worst part is usually the waiting time or the bill after treatment.
However, to get a gun, you need the money, jump through every legal loophole out there and so on. Some people cant get a gun because of the legal requirements, unlike healthcare.
Rave this if you think it's easier to get a gun than it is to get healthcare.
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Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2013/01/09 23:35:34
Granted you could just go to some hospital or cop and tell them your plans of what you would do with the gun you purchased... And then you would get that quality "institutional authoritarian" mental health treatment that the government is so hopped up on.... A paper robe, ankle cuffs and lithium.
We have leaches in Congress too, they're called Tea Tards.
The leaches in the operating rooms are used as an assist to the surgery. It is not the main treatment used to suck a patients blood dry.
BTW, how much did your paycheck go down after 1/1/13? Mine went down by $77.00 per week.
Sorry, I don't fit into your stereotype of who I am.
I have seen elderly medicare recipients have out of pocket expenses in excess of $900 and an able bodied young man flash a medicaid card and get his prescription for $1.
So no, I am not really being sarcastic.
Maybe things are different where you are at but here in L.A....'free' medical insurance for welfare or the poor is scary. If I would have had the cash at that time, I would not have thought twice about paying cash for quality medical care. Thank goodness I'm on a plan now.
Get this, on one of those long waits, i was talking to this nice lady sitting next to me who was also waiting...and my jaw dropped when she told me she was an LVN nurse. Thats right, she was an LVN who was working for a company that did home care for the elderly but they only employed via contract so they did not offer medical insurance.
That's pretty freakin bad when a LVN (nurse) has to go through the county system to get health care.
Healthcare is and will continue to be a mess. It's only going to get worse. This is something I could go on about all day. For one thing, our system is currently set up to where you either have to be on an insurance plan or on a social program. Look at a hospital bill and the break down. You have a $1,000 procedure and the hospital gives the insurance company a $600 discount. If you were cash pay it would be the full $1,000.
Then, of course, there is the current mentality of our culture that all ailments should be cured with no patient responsibility. A person has a health problem because they are overweight and doctor will toss it in, "you need to lose weight" and the response is usually, "no really, what are you going to do?"
But regardless, the subject of this thread is a red herring. I just don't buy the idea that we can't ID the mental cases, because it's a violation of their privacy. So we must stop all people from own firearms (yes there are those people, it may not be your stance, but it's out there). The government reads our email, watches what websites we go to, records our phone calls, and film us about our days. But when it comes to checking to see if someone is ...
Healthcare is and will continue to be a mess. It's only going to get worse. This is something I could go on about all day. For one thing, our system is currently set up to where you either have to be on an insurance plan or on a social program. Look at a hospital bill and the break down. You have a $1,000 procedure and the hospital gives the insurance company a $600 discount. If you were cash pay it would be the full $1,000.
Then, of course, there is the current mentality of our culture that all ailments should be cured with no patient responsibility. A person has a health problem because they are overweight and doctor will toss it in, "you need to lose weight" and the response is usually, "no really, what are you going to do?"
But regardless, the subject of this thread is a red herring. I just don't buy the idea that we can't ID the mental cases, because it's a violation of their privacy. So we must stop all people from own firearms (yes there are those people, it may not be your stance, but it's out there). The government reads our email, watches what websites we go to, records our phone calls, and film us about our days. But when it comes to checking to see if someone is bipolar before OKing a gun purchase, they're concerned about privacy? Come on.
Since we're going down this road, poverty has more to do with crime than gun ownership. Desperate people do desperate things. The guy that picks up an AR-15 is going to spend $1,000+ for that firearm. He's not likely to go on a rampage or crime spree, the numbers just don't support that.
Personally, I would go for the following:
- Mental history check for firearm purchase.
- If someone is diagnosed for mental illness, they need to be flagged and made to follow up.
- If they don't they need a visit from the police.
- A "driving test" so to speak for ownership. One for long gun and one for handgun. You pass the test, you're good. This means being able to properly carry, draw, hold, fire, load/re-load, disassemble/re-assemble the weapon. They also need to be able to shoot. I would set up a Hogan's Alley Lite range and specifically put a bystander behind one or more of the targets. If you hit the target but also hit the bystander. Sorry.
Finally, I would institute what I call the a**hole doctrine. I got it from my local PD. There was a road range case a few years ago. Where a woman shot a man in the chest. Her story was that he was harassing her on his motorcycle and his was that she was tailgating and cursing him. At a light, he dismounted his motorcycle and approached the vehicle. Her story was that he was threatening her, his was that he was ever so politely asking her to stop tailgating him. Regardless, he got a bullet in the chest.
During the PD's investigation, they found that the lady had been involved in several confrontations where police were called. In all of these cases, this woman pulled her weapon. Someone asked her to quiet down in the movie theater? She pulled her gun. Someone cut in the grocery line? She pulled her gun. She even pulled her piece at a Tee Ball game. Regardless of guilt or innocence in the shooting the PD pulled her carry permit.
If on your way to work, you run into an a**hole, you ran into an a**hole. If you run into a**holes all day, you're the a**hole.
Anyway, have a good day.