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shadow76 2012/09/22 03:59:38
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  • Isabel Perez 2013/01/15 09:52:09
    No They Are not
    Isabel Perez
    +1
    The more I see of this site the more I realize itis right wing base
  • shadow76 Isabel ... 2013/01/15 16:44:28
    shadow76
    You are nuts, they are libs,
  • Isabel ... shadow76 2013/01/16 17:54:25
    Isabel Perez
    Naming calling. What else should I expect from the likes of the RWNJ
  • shadow76 Isabel ... 2013/01/20 10:44:03
    shadow76
    "lib" is being called a name? You said "right wing"......goofy much?
  • Isabel ... shadow76 2013/01/20 20:03:47
    Isabel Perez
    Yes just what I expected no logical answers so we now we go straight to name calling! Just like the RWNJ
  • Tedster 2013/01/08 04:48:38
    No They Are not
    Tedster
    +1
    No more than the Rethuglicans.
  • shadow76 Tedster 2013/01/13 06:39:15
    shadow76
    They are a thousand times more corrupt that repubs!
  • Hamilton 2012/09/23 16:36:49
    Yes they Are Traitors
    Hamilton
    +2
    I am a Recovering ticket splitter and I live day by day vowing never to vote for another democrat as long as I live so help me God.
  • shadow76 Hamilton 2012/09/24 07:38:53 (edited)
    shadow76
    +1
    Wow! Do you ever get the shakes for craving just one Dem? Is there anything I can do to aid your recovery? I am so happy for you! Glad to be a friend!
  • Hamilton shadow76 2012/09/24 22:38:18
    Hamilton
    +2
    Actually I gotta come up with Medallions for people like me and My brother's Mother-in-law.

    She WAS a Democratic Committee woman in her town, and now this little old Jewish lady is a hard core Tea Party Animal and has voted for her last Democrat.
  • shadow76 Hamilton 2012/09/25 00:35:29
    shadow76
    +2
    That is wonderful! She sounds great!
  • "Abe" Hamilton 2013/01/13 03:04:16
    "Abe"
    +1
    AaaaaaaaaaaaaaMEN~~!!!
  • NPC 2012/09/23 15:37:59
    Yes they Are Traitors
    NPC
    +3
    The Congress is being held hostage by Harry Reid in the Senate the past 21 months since the Republicans took control of the House. Nothing meaningful has been done except kick the can down the road. They got some polar bear taxidermy bill agreed on the other day. Barack is ruling by Executive Privilege now.
  • shadow76 NPC 2012/09/23 15:51:23
    shadow76
    +1
    inch by inch these traitors are putting traitorous mitts into everything!
  • THE BEACH 2012/09/23 02:53:13
    Both sides are the same!
    THE BEACH
    +2
    When I think of traitors,I think of these people.
    Julius and Ethel Rosenberg,Robert Hanssen,Nidal Malik Hasan,Benedict Arnold,JeremyHinzman,Bernie Madoff and people like him.
  • shadow76 THE BEACH 2012/09/23 03:56:31
    shadow76
    +1
    You are so right! The bottom of the bottom!
  • happyday49 2012/09/23 02:00:59
    What is a Democrat?
    happyday49
    Okay, the Democrats left Congress long time ago. Some of them have become Republicans, like uh, some Supreme Court Justices, who have voted liberal on matters that were certainly conservative. What do you think about your guy Roberts and Scott Brown? Yeah, they're Republicans. Can you really trust them? Now, if you are talking about everyday working people democrats, they're just who they are, been democrat for years, not going to change, even though they see this great country deteroriating.
  • shadow76 happyday49 2012/09/23 03:59:26 (edited)
    shadow76
    Scot brown is republican but not conservative. He is as close to Conservative as you can get in Boston! Roberts seems to be traitor first in the matter of no Birth Certifcate and Owebamacare! But that is traitor to other Republicans, not betrayal of the country to enemies!
  • happyday49 shadow76 2012/09/27 02:58:52
    happyday49
    +1
    Yeah, you're correct Brown, I forgot! Roberts - I'm still out on him, but as you say traitor. Thanks :-)!
  • Tedster shadow76 2013/01/08 04:27:23 (edited)
    Tedster
    +1
    Ah, so you're an admitted Birther? Coo coo, coo coo, coo coo. And let me guess? You consider your self some kind of half-assed or is it full-assed patriot?
  • shadow76 Tedster 2013/01/11 15:47:34
    shadow76
    +2
    'You are the empty brained ass!
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/09/23 01:45:21 (edited)
    No They Are not
    Kaleokualoha
    +2
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but perhaps you need to know the definition of "anti-American":

    [QUOTE]
    an·ti-A·mer·i·can   /ˌæntiəˈmɛrɪkən, ˌæntaɪ-/ Show Spelled[an-tee-uh-mer-i-kuhn, an-tahy-] Show IPA
    adjective
    1. opposed or hostile to the United States of America, its people, its principles, or its policies.
    [END QUOTE]

    Those who oppose American policies, such as Obamacare and EVERY OTHER POLICY OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, may be considered "anti-American" by this definition!

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." - Proverbs 1:7
  • shadow76 Kaleoku... 2012/09/27 11:11:30
    shadow76
    +2
    Those who hate Americans and he does, and violate his oath of office and almost all the Amendments and the rest of The Constitution. Are anti- American and a traitor!
  • Kaleoku... shadow76 2012/09/27 16:40:20
    Kaleokualoha
    +2
    Such paranoid delusions are common in Right Wing Fantasyland. My condolences.

    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
  • shadow76 Kaleoku... 2013/01/13 06:45:07
    shadow76
    +1
    You just described all Dem zombies!
  • Kaleoku... shadow76 2013/01/13 20:18:26
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    My. what an ACTIVE imagination! Jump to conclusions much?

    Jumping to conclusions seems to be quite common in the fantasyland of the right-wing blogosphere. Such conclusions are drawn despite other likely explanations for the evidence presented. In the world of disinformation, speculation is misrepresented as fact.

    When asked to substantiate their conclusions, we may encounter bluster, red herrings, and ad hominem attacks more often than rational, focused answers. Military Intelligence students are quickly disabused of such behavior, and learn the value of supporting every conclusion they proffer. Researchers at the Rand Corporation and other highly regarded research institutions often come from such rigorous backgrounds, where conclusions are based on empirical evidence, rather than wishful thinking. It's a pity that blogosphere researchers and commentators are not held to similar high standards of accuracy.
  • shadow76 Kaleoku... 2013/01/14 08:28:49
    shadow76
    +1
    Then why is he always finding fault and cutting America down? Why does he never say anything good about America? Why does he want to "fundamentally change America"?
  • Kaleoku... shadow76 2013/01/14 20:47:24 (edited)
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    People who want to improve things always "find fault" first. Obama has said many good things about America. I imagine you would need to ask him about any fundamental change.

    There is still no evidence of "hate," as claimed.
  • shadow76 Kaleoku... 2013/01/15 07:30:39
    shadow76
    +1
    What he thinks is good isn't. Turning us from capitalist to socialist is not a good thing!
  • Kaleoku... shadow76 2013/01/15 07:37:37
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Do you actually believe the "socialist" myth? Just as Chicken Little started a "sky is falling" hysteria based on a falling acorn, so too are various critics pushing a "socialist" or "Marxist" Obama hysteria based on his economic policies. Not only do critics conveniently forget that the 2008 bailout was initiated by the Bush administration, but they also seem to have forgotten Econ 101. They could easily avoid such non sequitur nonsense by following the evidence instead of jumping to conclusions.

    Obama's "Marxist threat" is just as delusional as the "Iraqi threat" before the 2003 invasion. Both delusions are phantom menaces (i.e, fairy tales), fabricated and circulated by the Conservative Disinformation Network*. Both delusions are "straw men" designed to demonize their targets. Both delusions were swallowed in good faith by angry Americans, eager for excuses to attack their targets, who then circulated these myths further. Both delusions exploited the confirmation bias and ignorance of some Americans.

    In a classic display of masterful propaganda, both were also swallowed by others, who now had a REASON to attack the same targets, and circulate these myths further!

    BACKGROUND: According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates...



















    Do you actually believe the "socialist" myth? Just as Chicken Little started a "sky is falling" hysteria based on a falling acorn, so too are various critics pushing a "socialist" or "Marxist" Obama hysteria based on his economic policies. Not only do critics conveniently forget that the 2008 bailout was initiated by the Bush administration, but they also seem to have forgotten Econ 101. They could easily avoid such non sequitur nonsense by following the evidence instead of jumping to conclusions.

    Obama's "Marxist threat" is just as delusional as the "Iraqi threat" before the 2003 invasion. Both delusions are phantom menaces (i.e, fairy tales), fabricated and circulated by the Conservative Disinformation Network*. Both delusions are "straw men" designed to demonize their targets. Both delusions were swallowed in good faith by angry Americans, eager for excuses to attack their targets, who then circulated these myths further. Both delusions exploited the confirmation bias and ignorance of some Americans.

    In a classic display of masterful propaganda, both were also swallowed by others, who now had a REASON to attack the same targets, and circulate these myths further!

    BACKGROUND: According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In Marxist theory, it is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles."

    Please note that it is the stage FOLLOWING capitalism. Capitalism has many forms in a mixed economy, with public (collective) ownership of various enterprises based upon economic conditions. Limited public ownership does not comprise Marxist socialism, which requires COMPLETE public ownership. When controlled by a police state, however, limited public ownership may become fascism ("national socialism"), Marxist socialism, or even "perfect implementation of collectivist principles" (i.e., communism). Limited public ownership occurs at virtually every point on the mixed economy spectrum.

    MIXED ECONOMIES: Every advocate of greater government economic control might be called a "socialist," but none are Marxist socialists unless they advocate the complete elimination of private enterprise. True (laissez-faire) capitalism means zero government control of private enterprise, which means economic anarchy. Neither of these extremes works in the long run. Every successful economy is a mixed economy, existing somewhere on a spectrum between both extremes.

    Every successful economy is part capitalist and part socialist. They all contain a mix of private and public ownership, and they all have some government control of private enterprise. The only relevant question is "WHERE on this spectrum can we achieve the greatest success?" The rise of Asian economies, with their varying degrees of centralized planning, proves that economic planning helps economic development.

    ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCTS: Both laissez faire capitalism and true communism are artificial constructs, as impossible to sustain as cold fusion. Every successful society requires private enterprise regulated by public policy, regardless of Ayn Rand's fantasies. Extremists on either fringe are equally delusional. In some ways regulation is a necessary evil like body fat: too much or too little are both lethal. The normal tendency is to add layers with age. The challenge is to find the level that will produce the optimum outcome, all things considered.

    Unless someone advocates the complete replacement of capitalism with collectivism, they do not truly advocate socialism or communism. To accuse them of either, when they have not explicitly advocated as much themselves, suggests either unfamiliarity with mixed economies or intellectual dishonesty. Even George W. Bush and John McCain were accused of advocating socialism based upon their support of 2008 bailout legislation.

    ARE MIXED ECONOMIES "SOCIALIST"? The bottom line is simple. If you consider any variation of a mixed economy, including ANY public ownership or regulation of industry to be "socialism," then the United States and ALL other economies are "socialist." The debate is over, because by that definition we have been "socialist" since the 18th century. If you only consider complete collectivism to be "socialism," according to Marxist theory, then no successful economy is actually "socialist." The closest to a Marxist socialist economy is the economic basket case, North Korea. If you consider socialism to occur at some other point on the spectrum between unregulated capitalism and Marxist socialism, then any such point would be arbitrary.

    To accuse a mixed economy advocate of being a socialist or communist suggests that you believe that ANY degree of government ownership or regulation qualifies as "socialism," or that you believe that any ownership/regulation beyond an indefinite "trigger point" qualifies as "socialism,", and that YOU get to set the trigger point. The "trigger point" explanation reminds me of the egocentric explorer who says that anyone who explores farther into dangerous territory is a fool, but anyone who doesn’t explore as far as he does is a coward. His arrogance presumes that his own boundaries are both appropriate and common standards.

    MARXIST SOCIALISM: Marxist "socialism," in contrast to European "democratic socialism," requires collective ownership of the means of production and distribution. That is the death of private enterprise. We may or may not be on a path to collectivism, just as a dating couple may or may not be on a path to pregnancy. Traveling on a path in any direction does not imply any specific goal. For example, traveling on Interstate 10 does not imply that either coast is the goal.

    "Direction" is one thing. "Goal" is another. All mixed economies exist at some point in the spectrum between the fatal terminuses of unregulated capitalism and true socialism. In most Marxist states, however, capitalism reappeared as people recognized the lethal consequences of such extremes. Russia, China and other communist nations now recognize the virtue of mixed economies. They learned the hard way.

    SPECIOUS SPECULATION: I await empirical evidence, instead of specious speculation, that Obama wants to eliminate capitalism by moving to that extreme. To say Obama advocates the goal of socialism, based upon his movement on the spectrum instead of being based on his explicit advocacy, is to create a straw man. It is intellectually dishonest and unworthy of serious debate.
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  • Tedster shadow76 2013/01/08 04:35:40
    Tedster
    +1
    Someone's listening to way too much WND type craziness and worse yet, believing it!
  • shadow76 Tedster 2013/01/11 15:48:44
    shadow76
    +1
    You mean reading?
  • Tedster shadow76 2013/01/12 23:04:26
    Tedster
    +1
    No, I mean cluelessly, mindlessly and worse yet, gleefully letting yourself get suckered by what you wish the truth were. So, you do admit that WND is the "source" of your birther "facts" don't you? Demagogic idleologues like you are also fond of the fear based, paranoid nonsense from my neighbor and resident rt wing whackjob, Orly Taitz. But I'm guessing you're already familiar with a nutbag like her. Btw, she has lost every case she's tried and also been fined $25,000 for her misconduct by a judge in Georgia. Of course, to you that's proof of the conspiracy isn't it?
  • shadow76 Tedster 2013/01/13 06:48:01
    shadow76
    +1
    That and other sources! Never heard of this person, So who cares?
  • "Abe" shadow76 2013/01/13 03:08:19
    "Abe"
    +1
    Right you are, lady~!!
  • shadow76 "Abe" 2013/01/13 06:48:23
    shadow76
    +1
    Thank You, so are you!
  • "Abe" shadow76 2013/01/14 02:02:21
    "Abe"
    +1
    Tanks and you're welcome. :)
  • shadow76 shadow76 2013/01/14 08:26:11
    shadow76
    Then why is he always attacking America and never saying anything positive ever?
  • happyday49 Kaleoku... 2012/09/27 17:50:15
    happyday49
    +2
    I will have to say to quote scriptures is nice. However, you appear to be selective. In this point, I would say I fear the the true Lord God and you lord Obama doesn't. Read this: Gen: 2:22-24, Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man, the man said this is now bone of my bone,and flesh of my flesh, i will call her woman. Luke 1:44, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Luke 6:38, Give and it shall be given to you, a good measure pressed down, shaken together, and running over shall be measured to you. These scriptures given by inspiration and spoken by God, clearly says man & woman, nothing else, also, there is living leaping life in the womb, and the last verse clearly states you are blessed when you give and not when you take, well, nothing won't get back to you. President is opposing to all of these scriptures and you still support him, so explain your indifference? Also, Obama is clearly against christianity because of his position of forcing christian organization to fund abortion inducing drugs, etc, God is certainly not in that!!! If you want to quote scripture, that's fine, but at least, believe what God says and not Obama. Maybe you need to reclarify whose the fool. have a blessed day!
  • Kaleoku... happyday49 2012/09/27 18:27:18
    Kaleokualoha
    ". . . you lord Obama"? What on EARTH are you talking about?

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