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Mopeder 2012/06/16 10:29:36
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This post is in jest, a satire if you will. I just want you to know that. Conservatism is not a mental problem, and neither is liberalism, etc.

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  • LOU Scalded... 2012/06/18 02:34:24
  • reaper bosshog 2012/06/18 00:58:32
    reaper
    lets see, take away tax cuts and loop holes for the richest amount everyone. programs for these that struggle on the bottom. and gun control, not ban.

    tax cuts loop holes richest programs struggle gun ban
  • JackoClubs reaper 2012/06/18 13:41:40 (edited)
    JackoClubs
    +1
    Education represents around 15% of our federal budget. Last I heard, that was around $400 billion dollars, give or take, and spends about $25,000/yr. per public school student, and even more in some areas. That's a lot of money, and every year, we throw ever more money at it, and yet our scores against other industrialized nations keep falling.
    Part of it is the fact that it was taken out of the hands of the state and local governments---where our students flourished for over 200 years---and in 1979, was usurped by the Feds. It's been all downhill, from there.
    "If it ain't broke, fix it, anyway"; that's the government's motto.

    Remember a couple years back, when Mark Zuckerberg donated $100 million to that school district in NJ, the worst in the country? They were already paying $50,000/student, with those results.
    It's not the money, it's the mindset; the teacher's unions gave up truly caring about the kids years ago. Now it's about political power and keeping as many teachers as possible employed in as small a classroom as possible. Somehow, we went from having 40 or 50 kids to one teacher in one-room schoolhouses 100 years ago, to 20-25 kids, or less, today, and we've gotten dumber.
    And that's the other part; classroms used to be education centers, where students used to be ta...

    Education represents around 15% of our federal budget. Last I heard, that was around $400 billion dollars, give or take, and spends about $25,000/yr. per public school student, and even more in some areas. That's a lot of money, and every year, we throw ever more money at it, and yet our scores against other industrialized nations keep falling.
    Part of it is the fact that it was taken out of the hands of the state and local governments---where our students flourished for over 200 years---and in 1979, was usurped by the Feds. It's been all downhill, from there.
    "If it ain't broke, fix it, anyway"; that's the government's motto.

    Remember a couple years back, when Mark Zuckerberg donated $100 million to that school district in NJ, the worst in the country? They were already paying $50,000/student, with those results.
    It's not the money, it's the mindset; the teacher's unions gave up truly caring about the kids years ago. Now it's about political power and keeping as many teachers as possible employed in as small a classroom as possible. Somehow, we went from having 40 or 50 kids to one teacher in one-room schoolhouses 100 years ago, to 20-25 kids, or less, today, and we've gotten dumber.
    And that's the other part; classroms used to be education centers, where students used to be taught history and the 3-R's, along with personal responsibilty and self-motivation, individualism, civic-mindedness, and patriotism,
    Nowadays, classroms have gone from that, to being to indoctrination and re-education centers, where students are subtly taught the virtues of Socialism, big government and its largesse, diversity--where all are equal, no matter their contributions to society--and to implicitly trust the infallibility of science and Big Brother, to the exclusion of all else, including God.
    That's our problem.
    (more)
  • reaper JackoClubs 2012/06/19 02:08:15
    reaper
    I swear you guys have become conspiracy theorists
  • JackoClubs reaper 2012/06/19 02:48:57
    JackoClubs
    Lol....not theorists. The facts are there to be seen.
    Unlike the 8 years of over-the-top hysteria and conspiracy theories "you guys" pushed about Bush and conservatives.
  • reaper JackoClubs 2012/06/19 04:41:02
    reaper
    oh I admit, I've heard some off the wall stuff on bush that i found laughable. but the stuff I've heard on obama and the indoctrination claims is beyond crazy. I never knew some people can be so out of it and become so paranoid in such a short time span.

    and infallibility of science? exclusion of God? who is in favor of indoctrination now?

    crazy people paranoid span infallibility science exclusion god favor indoctrination
  • JackoClubs reaper 2012/06/19 23:16:14
    JackoClubs
    Figures...go join the rest of your 1.5%. They need you.
  • reaper JackoClubs 2012/06/19 23:27:49
    reaper
    1.5%? do explain please.
  • JackoClubs reaper 2012/06/19 23:29:57
    JackoClubs
    That's the percentage of atheists in America, according to the census. Congratulations.
  • reaper JackoClubs 2012/06/19 23:40:29
    reaper
    the last one? I believe it's more then that. last I heard around 30% classed themselves as atheists or non-relgious. and remember there might be a lot of kids out there that are closet atheists only because they are afraid of admitting to their family they don't believe in any kind of god.
  • JackoClubs reaper 2012/06/19 23:47:36 (edited)
    JackoClubs
    Yeah, whatever. Not interested in this dicussion tonight, thanks.
    Jesus loves you, whether you believe in Him or not. Goodbye. And God bless.
  • LOU bosshog 2012/06/18 02:31:36
  • JackoClubs LOU 2012/06/18 13:13:33 (edited)
    JackoClubs
    +1
    Wow...that took a long time. No job, huh? Try voting Repblican.
  • LOU JackoClubs 2012/06/18 15:10:29
    LOU
    NOT! On days off and have to take cows to the vet.
  • JackoClubs LOU 2012/06/18 15:18:51 (edited)
    JackoClubs
    Well, here: http://www.humanevents.com/20...

    The thing is, sex scandals in the Democrat party are very often glossed-over, downplayed or ignored altogether by a complicit, vastly-liberal-biased media, which does its best level best to carry their water, no matter what.
    The iconic, sainted Kennedys--who viewed women as little more than playground equipment--are prime examples, as is President Clinton.
    The Republicans don't have that advantage, and because they are the "family values" party which at least tries to stand for something (the Democrats sold their souls--and values--years ago, abandoning virtually all standards) their scandals are often given much more ink, and worse treatment, than deserved, in a direct effort not only to clearly demonstrate their hypocrisy, but to make it seem even worse.
  • LOU JackoClubs 2012/06/18 15:40:04
    LOU
    Jack
    I wish I could debate this into the ground with you. I have to the vet and register for a MSHA training class and get a doctors appointment.

    I have learned that there are filthy elements on both sides of the fence. Wages are dropping and have not hardly moved for the working classs in years. Republicans did nothing for this country during the Bush years and the results was a fail economy. Not all that Bush did was wrong but now we have Obama and I have seen programs that could have created jobs killed by the republicans. I have never seen the hate factor like I have seen it from the GOP side of the fence. For a group of people who preach family values they sure hate alot of people.

    LOU
  • JackoClubs LOU 2012/06/18 16:26:28
    JackoClubs
    Nonsense....Kool-Aid, anyone?
    Bush had a 4.7% unemployment rate until the (Democrat-supported--I'll be happy to explain that to you, if necessray) housing market collapsed in 2007, and the stock market rose almost steadliy, from 2001-02 to about the same time.
    One reason wages are dropping, is because unions have forced industry to go overseas, in order to make a profit. Companies exist to make money, not to simply employ as many people as possible, at the most exhorbitant rate of pay and perks as possible. union have shot themselves in the foot, and are suffering lower membership rates, because people are wising up. That's why they're so supportive of Obama; he wants "card check", and to give the illegals amnesty, which would allow the unions to admit them and get their roles back up.
    Years ago, they, unions, did not support amnesty for illegals, because they said the Mexicans were taking American jobs. It's all about money and political power, now, though, not protetcing the workers, and the workers who use their eyes, ears and brains know it.
    Republicans often don't vote for Obama's "jobs programs" because they're not supposed to.
    "Poison pills"--laws or regulations which Republicans would not support--are often inserted into, and buried in, bills as "riders"--giving the Democ...

    Nonsense....Kool-Aid, anyone?
    Bush had a 4.7% unemployment rate until the (Democrat-supported--I'll be happy to explain that to you, if necessray) housing market collapsed in 2007, and the stock market rose almost steadliy, from 2001-02 to about the same time.
    One reason wages are dropping, is because unions have forced industry to go overseas, in order to make a profit. Companies exist to make money, not to simply employ as many people as possible, at the most exhorbitant rate of pay and perks as possible. union have shot themselves in the foot, and are suffering lower membership rates, because people are wising up. That's why they're so supportive of Obama; he wants "card check", and to give the illegals amnesty, which would allow the unions to admit them and get their roles back up.
    Years ago, they, unions, did not support amnesty for illegals, because they said the Mexicans were taking American jobs. It's all about money and political power, now, though, not protetcing the workers, and the workers who use their eyes, ears and brains know it.
    Republicans often don't vote for Obama's "jobs programs" because they're not supposed to.
    "Poison pills"--laws or regulations which Republicans would not support--are often inserted into, and buried in, bills as "riders"--giving the Democrats propaganda; cause, to point to them and say "see how they are?! We're trying, and they won't go along! Evil Republicans!" The stimulus and Obamacare bills, for example were stuffed with these.
    It's a petty tactic, in a 3-ring circus called "politics", and both sides do use it as a tactic, but the Democrats have turned it into an art form, and maoinly do use it simply as a propaganda tool. That's why the TEA Party supports "One law, one bill". This would remove that as a tactic, be a solution to the problem.
    The tactic works more often for the Democrats but not Republicans, simply because the "objective" media isn't on the Repubs side.
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  • LOU JackoClubs 2012/06/18 19:37:38
    LOU
    Facts are a waste of time when dealing with you.
  • JackoClubs LOU 2012/06/18 19:41:29
    JackoClubs
    LOL...same here. Definitely. So point out where I'm in the wrong. As the saying goes, "Don't just tell me how ignorant I am, tell me how I am ignorant."
    Please.
  • Lt. Fred 2012/06/17 10:08:11
    No
    Lt. Fred
    +1
    People are mentally ill; groups are not mentally ill.
  • Ron Lt. Fred 2012/06/17 14:04:37
    Ron
    +1
    Groups are not but the people that make up groups can be making the group the equivalent.
  • JackoClubs Ron 2012/06/17 14:34:37
    JackoClubs
    +1
    Nice rationalization, there.
  • Lt. Fred Ron 2012/06/17 23:47:43
    Lt. Fred
    +2
    Well, maybe the mental illness sufferers association is all mentally ill. But I don't think you can generalise about political beliefs. Being an idiot is not the same as being a paranoid schizophrenic.
  • Ron Lt. Fred 2012/06/18 00:01:18
    Ron
    Yeah, I can agree with that.
  • LOU Ron 2012/06/18 02:35:19
  • mike 2012/06/17 09:41:28
    No
    mike
    +9
    Years ago when I had liberal views they came out of idealism. My conservative views come from realism and a desire to preserve this Nation for my Grandchildren.
  • Yo'Adri... mike 2012/06/17 13:05:59
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +3
    That is "PROFOUND". {-)
  • JackoClubs mike 2012/06/17 14:35:17
    JackoClubs
    +2
    Awesomely well-put.
  • Scalded... mike 2012/06/17 20:46:09
    Scalded Eagle
    Welcome to light my friend.
  • The Judge 2012/06/17 09:06:41
    More than likely
    The Judge
    +4
    i prefer too think it's isolated to SH though, at least I hope so
  • Eric Albertson 2012/06/17 08:46:11
    Yes
    Eric Albertson
    +4
    It is.
  • strawberry 2012/06/17 08:42:38
    More than likely
    strawberry
    +3
    Actually most come from very conservative families and grow up with such a limited outlook on life. Too many religions cause conservative narrow minded thinking.
    adj. Conservative: "favoring the preservation of established customs, values, etc., and opposing innovation."

    liberal, liberalist, progressive - "a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of Civil liberties."

    Conservative - unimagenatively conventional, "a colorful character in the buttoned - down dull - grey world of business" Newsweek

    Adj. Conservative - "resistant to change"
    orthodox - "adhering to what is commonly accepted." "an orthodox view of the world"

    "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward" [Franklin D Roosevelt]
  • JackoClubs strawberry 2012/06/17 14:49:21 (edited)
    JackoClubs
    +2
    Edison, Ford, Carnegie, Farnsworth...All were great innovators, and all were, in some part, responsible for the lifestyles we enjoy in the modern era. All were conservative-leaning thinkers.
    Let's not forget that it was the "progressives", i.e. liberals, that support, have ever supported--and will likely continue to support--worldwide communist totaliitarianism, and through misplaced guilt and PC, aid and abet barbaric Islamic Shariah Law's encroachment into western culture.

    "It isn't that liberals are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."--Ronald Reagan
  • Lt. Fred JackoClubs 2012/06/17 23:48:09
    Lt. Fred
    +3
    Please note that Ford was a Nazi.
  • reaper JackoClubs 2012/06/18 01:01:46 (edited)
    reaper
    +2
    yeah, i really don't think any of those guys you listed would of been a Conservative, being more Conservative minded people often don't favor new ideas.

  • strawberry reaper 2012/06/19 08:29:36
    strawberry
    LOL!!!
  • Linda strawberry 2012/06/17 17:39:21
    Linda
    +2
    Beautiul. and thank you.
  • Mike 2012/06/17 08:13:05 (edited)
    No
    Mike
    +9
    Conservatism isn't a mental problem and serves as an anchor to society. Conservative -- the root word means to rely on traditional values that work, and obviously by the estimate that we're still here; they indeed did work. When slavery wasn't working, do you think it was the liberals that signed the emancipation proclamation? I think not. Liberals want to move "forward" (and away from policies that are CURRENTLY WORKING) and repeatedly attempt policies and programs that have already failed time and time again. According to Albert Einstein, this is the definition of insanity -- to repeat the same thing over and over again expecting different results. So, by the definition and logic of Albert Einstein, Liberals are the ones with mental illnesses.
  • Lt. Fred Mike 2012/06/17 10:12:56
    Lt. Fred
    +5
    Abraham Lincoln, perhaps the most liberal President in American history, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. The conservatives were the ones on the other side of the lines at Antietem and other battles.
  • Ron Lt. Fred 2012/06/17 14:10:01
    Ron
    +2
    I am not sure you can call him the most liberal, that may have been Theodore Roosevelt, but he was certainly more liberal than many who proclaim to be liberal now and definitely not in line with the current Republican Party.

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