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Scalded Eagle 2012/06/22 14:31:34
The media has ignored his murder, long enough. Even his parents said his death has been covered up by the regime. His unfortunate death could be the single most important thing that frees America from the grip of socialism. God Bless Brian Terry and his family.
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  • mustangluver 2012/06/22 15:28:51
    mustangluver
    +36
    For the second time in a week, President Obama has shown he not only doesn’t care what Congress thinks, but he has the power and the inclination to just roll over the Legislative Branch and anyone in it, particularly the GOP members. Obama is hiding information about a federal operation that didn’t just go awry, but that resulted in the death of a Border Patrol agent. Whatever Obama’s hiding apparently is more important to him than the life of a federal agent. Could the documents reveal his own involvement in the botched arms-tracking scheme? BO is really good at hiding stuff huh? Historically, most presidents follow up an executive privilege claim by voluntarily revealing some of the requested documents to fend off a confrontation with Congress. Based on Obama’s pattern, that doesn’t seem likely to happen. President Nixon also invoked executive privilege to try to block release of the recordings that came to be called the Watergate Tapes. Nixon resigned for the good of the country so that America would not have to be dragged through the spectacle of impeachment hearings. There’s a crucial point that must be remembered, however: Nobody died in Watergate.

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  • Geenie ... Jack Sprat 2012/06/26 03:12:37
    Geenie Nabottle
    Really?? Stale jokes and punch lines is all you got left huh....
  • Jack Sprat Geenie ... 2012/06/27 01:36:47
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    Well by the proof of the puddin', all you'd understand.
  • Geenie ... Jack Sprat 2012/06/27 19:35:38
    Geenie Nabottle
    Booooooo!
  • Jack Sprat Geenie ... 2012/06/29 03:42:31
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    BooooHooo, and actually all you have is made up fantasy, well, and all the kool aide you can suck down, although I do have to hand it to you, you lasted one post past the point where upon not having any facts and loosing the argument, you liberals start the personal attacks, so you got that going for you.
  • Geenie ... Jack Sprat 2012/06/30 03:01:44
    Geenie Nabottle
    And you know all about "made up fantasy" don't you!
  • Jack Sprat Geenie ... 2012/07/06 18:57:48
    Jack Sprat
    I've have read several of your posts, so Yea.
  • politicalsoldier 2012/06/25 14:55:59
    politicalsoldier
    +3
    The Obama/Holder Cabal flooded thousands of guns into Mexico in order to create mass murder and then blame it on U.S. gun owners and gun stores. Remember, Obama was traveling around with the Mexican President at the time blaming the violence in Mexico on guns in the U.S., and was trying to pass more gun-ban laws at the exact same time the Fast & Furious program was in full swing.

    Obama and Holder hoped a Brain Terry would be murdered. They hoped for many Brain Terrys and many U.S. civilians to be murdered at the boarder. They just hoped for a different outcome because it. They just didn't think their scheme would get found out.

    Obama and Holder should be sitting in federal prisons right now waiting for their sentencings.
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/25 16:59:38
    Geenie Nabottle
    So what you are saying is that Obama was president and Holder was AG in 2006?!?!

    ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID???
  • Jack Sprat Geenie ... 2012/06/26 00:28:43
    Jack Sprat
    +4
    No but more than apparently you are.
  • Scalded... Jack Sprat 2012/06/26 20:27:17
    Scalded Eagle
    +3
    I wounder how much she gets paid to come here and ramble.
  • Jack Sprat Scalded... 2012/06/27 01:37:52
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    I'm sure they never get paid by the word and certainly not content, too much drivel and babble.
  • Scalded... Jack Sprat 2012/06/29 17:30:26
  • Geenie ... Scalded... 2012/06/27 19:37:08
    Geenie Nabottle
    I guess you think your ignorance is as good as my knowledge huh!

    HA HA! What a maroon!
  • Jack Sprat Geenie ... 2012/07/06 19:00:24
    Jack Sprat
    "HA HA! What a maroon!"

    Wow and you admit you are one, kudos, now "the healing begins"


    woman in a stright jacket
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/06/26 16:51:51
    politicalsoldier
    +3
    Fast and Furious started in 2009. So, you really are that stupid.

    The Bush program you are attempting to blame it on (Blame it on Bush. That's your marching orders, right?) was a much smaller sting type operation that lead to arrest every time, because the exchanges were monitored, arrests immediate, and the guns basically never left the building after exchanging hands.

    Obama and Holder poured thousands of untracked guns across the boarder in an attempt to blame Mexico's violence on U.S. gun rights. Which is why his planned anti-gun speeches and rallies with President Caldarone were happening at that exact same time.

    If your Messiah, Obama, and Holder are so innocent, where are the nearly 130,000 documents they refuse to turn over?
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/26 21:51:12
    Geenie Nabottle
    Facts are non existent to you people. Your are literally the embodiment of the tin foil hat conspiracy believing lunatic.

    Seriously do you really believe that the top cop in the nation and the leader of the free world gives two shyts about you or "taking your guns away"?!? Get a grip would you!

    Take your head out of talk radio and the blogospheres arse untwist the foil cap and look at the facts would you please!
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/06/27 06:04:32
    politicalsoldier
    +1
    I've stated facts. You've just blathered on attempting to discredit what I've presented in typical Saul Aliski fashion. If you have FACTS (what liberals fear most) that prove the contrary, please present them.

    It's a FACT that Fast & Furious happened under Obama and Holder.

    It's a FACT that at the time the Fast & Furious guns were pouring across the boarder and being used for murder, Obama and Calderon were traveling around the U.S. making anti-gun speeches and asking for stricter gun laws.

    And it's a FACT that Holder first turned in only 7,000 pages and later another 1,300 of the 140,000 page that were subpoenaed by the investigation, which put him in contempt of congress.

    You see, a conspiracy theory isn't based on hard, cold, provable, documented FACTs. The truth is.

    I'm waiting for your FACTs.
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/27 19:46:15
    Geenie Nabottle
    I have presented the same unchanging facts over & over & over & over again to countless numbers of the useless brain dead hyper-partisan conservative masses.... Don't believe me just read a few of my comments above and below this one.

    And they, like you always each have their OWN set of facts that they believe. Funny thing is facts are facts and shouldn't change from one right wing whacko to the next, but nevertheless you people each have different facts that barely match. The only thing you all agree on is that "the Kenyan Muslim atheist socialist communist" is out to take your guns by giving assaults weapons to the Mexican cartels and he told Eric Holder to implement the program.

    If you people are not the biggest JOKE EVER I don't know what it!
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/06/28 17:20:45 (edited)
    politicalsoldier
    +1
    Really? Where are they? I just read back over all your posts and I don't see any facts. All I see is you making idiotic comments and trying to discredit anyone who thinks different than you rather than engaging in a intelligent debate. Typical Saul Alinski strategy, but it doesn't work anymore.

    So here your chance. Go ahead and re-present those facts that you claim you've presented "over & over & over & over again". I'm waiting.
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/28 17:43:38
    Geenie Nabottle
    At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. AFTER President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011, nine people had been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms.[18] As of November, charges against one defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained fugitives."

    "Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns,A DOZEN WHICH WERE LOST IN MEXICO. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them."
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/28 17:45:13
    Geenie Nabottle
    Read and be enlightened!
    http://features.blogs.fortune...
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/06/28 21:02:14
    politicalsoldier
    +1
    How did that enlighten me. The only thing that talked about Fast & Furious was the title of the Story, "The Truth about the Fast and Furious Scandal." It talks about how the drug cartels buy off U.S. citizens (criminals) to buy guns and Arizona's lax gun-laws, but it doesn't touch on the DOJ's Fast and Furious program or how they moved thousands of illegal guns into Mexico. The entire premise of the story was to blame it on something/someone else, which is typical Obama/lefty politics. And typical for CNN.

    How about facts about the program itself. Not about other issues like Arizona's laws, the NRA and whatever else has nothing to do with the DOJ, Holder or the White House. And, if we had a closed, secure boarder the Mexican drug cartels wouldn't be operating out of Arizona, would they?

    Bottom line ... Fast & Furious" was Obama's and Holders program and happened during Obama. Our own federal government walked thousands of untracked gun into the hands of Mexican drug cartels that killed hundreds at the same time Obama was claiming American gun owners and gun laws were responsible. And if some guns walked into Mexico under Bush's "Wide Receiver" plan did go unrecovered and untracked, then that too is wrong. It doesn't matter whether the guy in the oval office has an R or a D next to his name. That only matters to the small minds that can't see past that.
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/28 21:11:45 (edited)
    Geenie Nabottle
    So if I'm hearing you correctly, you don't care about thousands of straw purchases that result in semi automatic weapons going to drug cartels that in turn is results in increasing border violence..... All you care about is Holder losing his job because Issa in Washington feels he is not getting his way on classified documents?!?

    How very small brained of you!
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/06/28 21:29:15 (edited)
    politicalsoldier
    +1
    No, I didn't say that at all. You just did. So I guess your not hearing (reading) me correctly. Try again. Oh, wait, I get it. Your losing so your pulling out more Saul Alinski tactics. Yawn.

    And you only seem to be the one concerned about Holder's job. As in him keeping it no matter what he's done. If holder was seen on video giving guns to drug kingpins and shooting a boarder guard himself, you stand by him, because he was anointed by your Messiah, Obama. I'm sure if Bush was in the White House right now and this was under his Attorney General and everything about this case were the same you'd be sticking up the DOJ and the AG, right? LOL! You attempt to appear virtuous but your just a hard-core lefty partisan.

    If Holder and Obama are innocent, then were are the over 130,000 pages of documents that were legally subpoenaed by congress. And did you know the President has no authority to block the investigation of a cabinet or department with executive order. He can only block with executive order the documents that included conversation between that department and the President. And he blocked the release of 130,000 pages. So, guess who else has their hands deep in this. It isn't just Holder's job on the line.
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/29 00:40:57
    Geenie Nabottle
    Who the hell is Saul Alinski?!? And why are you so afraid of him?

    Are you even reading what you are writing?

    I ask b/c any sane person would ask why do they need ONE HUNDRED & THIRTY THOUSAND MORE PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION? Particularly when Issa has confirmed that he has no evidence to suggest or prove any wrong doing by AG Eric Holder or the Obama Adminstration in the SEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION that he has already received???

    You would think given the fervor pitch which the right wing lunnies have been gnawing at this bone over the las two years he would be able to narrow down the window of documentation that he needs to prove anything. It shoud have also been enough time to find corroborating witnesses to support the whistleblowers charges.
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/06/29 18:37:07
    politicalsoldier
    Show me the facts. This is just more rhetoric and hyperbole.

    Yawn.
  • Geenie ... politic... 2012/06/30 03:15:45 (edited)
    Geenie Nabottle
    How about Darell Issa show the American people and the Terry family some facts within the SEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED pages of documents he already has that warrants this waste of time and tax payer money on his fishing expedition looking for something that will support the crazy conspiracy theory you people are pushing!

    But I guess that is too much like right for you.....
  • Scalded... politic... 2012/06/29 17:32:16
    Scalded Eagle
    +1
    I cant wait to hear this.
  • politic... Scalded... 2012/06/29 18:48:19
    politicalsoldier
    It'll be a long wait. LOL
  • Geenie ... Scalded... 2012/06/30 03:17:56
    Geenie Nabottle
    No need to wait here is the response...


    How about Darell Issa show the American people and the Terry family some facts within the SEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED pages of documents he already has that warrants this waste of time and tax payer money on his fishing expedition looking for something that will support the crazy conspiracy theory you people are pushing!

    But I guess that is too much like right for you.....
  • politic... Geenie ... 2012/07/01 21:21:46
    politicalsoldier
    Wow, one fact! (though it's not probably that accurate. I'm seeing "over 7,600 in most articles now). But, it is one fact. That's impressive for a liberal. And, it's one fact that goes further to prove my case, so thanks.

    Do you even think before you speak (type). 140,000 pages were subpoenaed and they turn in somewhere less than 8,000. You can't understand that they only turned in only the meaningless correspondence that would not incriminate them, and kept anything that would (i.e. the remaining over 130,000 pages). And then King Obama used executive privilege to keep those papers from being released. Why not turn them all in if they are innocent of a crime? Why use executive privilege in an unethical way to block it?

    It's like a guy that just pounded a 12-pack and had a few shots running somebody over in his car. Then the cop asks him how much he's had to drink, and he says, "one beer a while ago". I guess the cop should just say, "Oh, okay, go on your way. Sorry to inconvenience you". Of course you'd be for that if it was your messiah, Obama, at the wheel.
  • Scalded... politic... 2012/06/25 19:11:54
    Scalded Eagle
    +3
    Yes I do remember that and yes they should be standing in a cell...
  • Red politic... 2012/06/26 07:05:04
  • Geenie ... Red 2012/06/27 19:48:53
    Geenie Nabottle
    I'm amazed at your ability to have your mind blown away by so much misinformation and lack of knowledge about this issue
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/06/25 13:37:25
  • Scalded... whitewu... 2012/06/25 19:15:22
    Scalded Eagle
    +4
    Yep, we need a full investigation into this matter from The Congression Oversite Commitee.
  • cheshirewayne 2012/06/25 12:48:37
    cheshirewayne
    +4
    It's time for Eric Holder to go.
  • Scalded... cheshir... 2012/06/25 13:31:13
    Scalded Eagle
    +3
    Amen on that CW.
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/06/25 12:13:23
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +7
    The man died doing his patriotic duty and job. His family and fellow citizens want answers. Unfortunately the administartion and the media believe this man and others like him are expendable.
  • Scalded... Flash,a... 2012/06/25 13:35:36
    Scalded Eagle
    +6
    We need troops on the border and the gun walking has to stop. I cant wait wait for Congress to vote on the contempt of congress charges against Holder so we can get to the truth.

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