Quantcast

Rave this: If you think anything short of "Water Boarding" will ever get the truth out of Eric Holder.

Scalded Eagle 2012/06/27 20:11:09
Related Topics: Eric Holder, 2010, 2012
Holder's Pick for 2012.
pick Eric Holder
You!
Add Photos & Videos

Top Opinion

Sort By
  • Most Raves
  • Least Raves
  • Oldest
  • Newest
Opinions

  • dandies... Dogman 2012/06/29 20:32:21
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/06/29 23:48:25 (edited)
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    +1
    There was also a time when waterboarding terrorists was considered more humane than blowing up U.S. citizens with manned drones.

    Times change.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/06/30 01:32:42
    Dogman
    When was that?
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/06/30 03:27:17
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/06/30 03:58:16
    Dogman
    +1
    More silly cartoons. Do all Conservatives struggle with completing thoughts and committing them to the written word? I assume you believe that friendly fire is a recent phenomenon?
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/06/30 04:04:06
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    No, we're just dumbfounded by the ignorance of the opposition.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/06/30 04:09:03
    Dogman
    Ignorance of what?
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/06/30 04:16:16
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    Are you aware that the sitting president has blown American citizens up with manned drones?
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/06/30 10:08:34
    Dogman
    Are you talking about Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, Anwar al-Awlaki, and Samir Khan?
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/06/30 23:48:53
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-0...

    But I suppose you'll have an excuse for that.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/01 10:31:57
    Dogman
    +1
    Of course. If an American joins the enemy and is killed while fighting against America, I don't know how to prevent that from happening.
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/07/02 15:22:47
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    +2
    We're not at war with any specific body. Therefore, terrorist actions are considered criminal and, if an American citizen is accused of terrorism, he needs to be prosecuted under criminal law.

    A criminal can only be killed when he presents clear and present danger to others, not when he's home eating a cheese sandwich.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/02 20:55:47
    Dogman
    Right. That's all wonderful and everything but if one of these traitors is going down on bin Laden's third in command when we incinerate his house - he's probably on his way to meeting 72 virgins too. Them's the breaks.
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/07/02 22:36:20
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    Still un-Constitutional and far worse than waterboarding.

    But wait; obviously blowing people up with manned drones isn't as bad as simulated drowning.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/03 02:11:48
    Dogman
    What, pray tell, is a "manned" drone? Isn't that what we call the "Air Force"?

    You can feign contempt because we took out a terrorist that was born on American soil. Personally, I don't care where he was born. Terrorists that are plotting strikes on American soil need to be eliminated.
  • RT Dogman 2012/07/03 03:48:08
  • Dogman RT 2012/07/03 08:56:28 (edited)
    Dogman
    +1
    They defend this guy because he was taken out by Obama. Anything, in the eyes of the Right, that Obama does - is bad. Obama could fix the economy, end unemployment, end world hunger, cure cancer, bring everlasting world peace - and the Right would still hate him.

    Can you imagine if Bush had taken out bin Laden the way that Obama did? There would have been an effort to create a national holiday named for "Dubya". Fox News would have ran endless stories about how Dubya personally swam across the the Persian Gulf with a knife in his mouth, (Rambo style), and snuck up on bin Laden against incredible odds to take out the "evil doer".

    But, alas, it was Obama that had the nerve to order this mission - a mission that would surely have ended his political career had it failed, the same way the failed rescue attempt ended Carter's. So, Boehner never even shed a tear.
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/07/03 15:39:50
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    unmanned drone*

    Well, the U.S. Constitution disagrees with you - an American citizen, regardless of what criminal activity he's accused of committing, is entitled to due process per the U.S. Constitution.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/03 20:37:05
    Dogman
    Right, but as I said, if he's in the area when we're taking out terrorists - see ya!
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/07/03 21:03:39
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    '...he's in the area...'

    We specifically targeted American citizens for assassination. They weren't simply 'in the area' of other terrorist targets; they were the targets.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/04 02:20:19
    Dogman
    And, what would your plan be?
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/07/04 02:35:51
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    Capture and press criminal charges.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/04 12:39:50
    Dogman
    From a foreign land?
  • Leantom... Dogman 2012/07/04 19:24:08
    Leantom, the Economic Rationalist
    Bring them over here, then press criminal charges.
  • Dogman Leantom... 2012/07/04 21:05:12
    Dogman
    I hear you, I don't think it's practical.
  • joe mauro 2012/06/29 07:17:12
    joe mauro
    +4
    he should be shot for sedition
  • Scalded... joe mauro 2012/06/29 13:44:27 (edited)
    Scalded Eagle
    +4
    I think 20 years in real a Real Federal Prison would sufice.
  • joe mauro Scalded... 2012/06/29 17:34:14
    joe mauro
    +1
    ok fair enuff
  • none 2012/06/29 05:14:24
    none
    +7
    Go for the water boarding right now, Brian Terry's family deserves the truth and so does the rest of the country.
  • Scalded... none 2012/06/29 13:46:25
    Scalded Eagle
    +4
    Agreed, my friend.
  • JHalden87 2012/06/29 04:03:51
    JHalden87
    +1
    Do you hold the President of your NFL team responsible if a wide receiver fumbles a touchdown that would have won you a championship?

    Also least we not forget that the ATF began these operations under the Bush administration, I do not see where Holder is responsible for a botched ATF operation. He deals with fallout from federal operations not planning and implementation.

    But top marks on the attempted partisanship rhetoric mixed in with a pinch of 'its against the constitution for an AGOTUS to go against the elected congress', I mean really nice push from the right to make this a political issue.

    If you want someone to blame, blame the people who planned the whole idea of selling untrackable guns to drugrunners in an effort to track guns, it's that genius that should be put in front of congress and held to account not make it some big political issue to try and get a scalp of an administration in an election year it's pathetic partisanship.
  • jeane JHalden87 2012/06/29 04:53:05
    jeane
    +6
    The Difference Between Bush’s Wide Receiver and Obama’s Fast and Furious: The Short Version
    Posted by Harvey on June 24, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    [via Doug Ross]
    ______________

    “Wide Receiver [the Bush-era operation] was a gun smuggling interdiction effort that involved Phoenix-based ATF agents working in conjunction with Mexican law enforcement. It was a Phoenix border operation only. They were trying to build a case against a violent group of Mexican drug smugglers and the Mexican drug cartel to discover who they were and where they could be found. Wide Receiver began in 2005, involved 400 weapons, and all the weapons had RFID trackers installed in them. The Mexican government was informed and actively involved. The program was ended in 2007 when the drug dealers discovered the trackers that had been installed. No lives were lost.

    Fast and Furious was begun in 2009 by the Obama administration and was an unconstitutional effort to build a case against American gun dealers, American private gun owners, and the Second Amendment. The Mexican government wasn’t involved in Fast and Furious. Over 300 people were killed, including two Americans. Wide Receiver no longer existed; it had been shut down for two years. Fast and Furious involved over 2,000 guns. The Obama regime didn’t care where the w...
    The Difference Between Bush’s Wide Receiver and Obama’s Fast and Furious: The Short Version
    Posted by Harvey on June 24, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    [via Doug Ross]
    ______________

    “Wide Receiver [the Bush-era operation] was a gun smuggling interdiction effort that involved Phoenix-based ATF agents working in conjunction with Mexican law enforcement. It was a Phoenix border operation only. They were trying to build a case against a violent group of Mexican drug smugglers and the Mexican drug cartel to discover who they were and where they could be found. Wide Receiver began in 2005, involved 400 weapons, and all the weapons had RFID trackers installed in them. The Mexican government was informed and actively involved. The program was ended in 2007 when the drug dealers discovered the trackers that had been installed. No lives were lost.

    Fast and Furious was begun in 2009 by the Obama administration and was an unconstitutional effort to build a case against American gun dealers, American private gun owners, and the Second Amendment. The Mexican government wasn’t involved in Fast and Furious. Over 300 people were killed, including two Americans. Wide Receiver no longer existed; it had been shut down for two years. Fast and Furious involved over 2,000 guns. The Obama regime didn’t care where the weapons ended up. There were no tracking devices and no effort was made to track them. No helicopters. There was no on-the-ground surveillance of the straw purchasers. The guns were sold and then walked across the border, and that was it. Four federal agencies were involved in maybe as many as 10 cities in five states. Fast and Furious was Obama’s effort to gain false information so he could use the information to introduce his gun control bill.”
    (more)
  • Scalded... jeane 2012/06/29 13:49:09
    Scalded Eagle
    +3
    Thanks for stating the facts Jean.
  • DUGGINS jeane 2012/06/29 14:20:48
    DUGGINS
    +4
    You told the truth Jean on the difference between the Wide Receiver thing which was above board and known to everybody except the Obama Kool Aid drinkers. Fast and Furious was connected to the Brady group, and Holder and Obama were the two main culprits, but they were found out when the border agent O'Brien was killed. Holder was also involved in the Oklahoma bombing case, and the Ruby Ridge and the branch Davidians massacre. The liberals like to forget he was part of the Clinton Justice Dept.
  • jeane DUGGINS 2012/06/29 21:06:14 (edited)
    jeane
    I didn't know that about Holder. I think I will have to bone up on him. I have been focused on his present absurdites. Thank you.
  • Nikki +In God We Trust+ 2012/06/29 02:00:38
  • pbunny Nikki +... 2012/06/29 02:18:52
  • Scalded... Nikki +... 2012/06/29 13:53:08
    Scalded Eagle
    +4
    Yep, if he releases those Doc.s, he could expose the whole globallist agenda.
  • Nikki +... Scalded... 2012/06/30 01:30:09
    Nikki +In God We Trust+
    So very true.
  • RT 2012/06/29 01:38:33

See Votes by State

The map above displays the winning answer by region.

News & Politics

2014/10/31 13:10:08

Hot Questions on SodaHead
More Hot Questions

More Community More Originals