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  • Uranos7 2012/05/17 16:50:46 (edited)
    Uranos7
    +38
    I do love America and have fought and bled for it. That is why this President who was never proud of his country before he started running it into the ground has to go.

    You betcha

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  • Scalded... Shovel ... 2012/05/25 16:06:51
    Scalded Eagle
    +3
    Amen Brother.
  • judi 2012/05/25 10:03:16
    judi
    +6
    absolutely
  • Scalded... judi 2012/05/25 16:07:35
    Scalded Eagle
    +2
    God Bless America.
  • Haley 2012/05/25 09:58:12
    Haley
    +6
    There's no place I'd rather live! It's such a beautiful, diverse country whose citizens are overwhelmingly kind, hard-working, and freedom-loving. Go USA!! But I don't hate on other countries, I'd love to travel across the globe from Japan to Russia to Canada :D
  • EmoMcPa... Haley 2012/05/25 14:17:51
    EmoMcParland
    +6
    I hope that your dreams are fulfilled & you see the rest of the world; & see what other countries are doing to their people. That is when my eyes wre opened; & truely realized how fortunate we are ; )
  • Haley EmoMcPa... 2012/05/25 18:22:37
    Haley
    +4
    thanks! :)
  • Barefoo... EmoMcPa... 2012/05/26 03:43:36
    Barefooted Nana ∞ijm♥∞AFCL
    +2
    Amen.....me too!
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/05/25 15:53:23
    Red Branch
    +4
    The Pledge does not call for Hate.
  • Scalded... Red Branch 2012/05/25 16:09:02
    Scalded Eagle
    +3
    Hate is Lib spin.
  • Red Branch Scalded... 2012/05/26 03:28:10
    Red Branch
    +4
    Hate is Lib Talk,
  • Haley Red Branch 2012/05/25 18:22:24
    Haley
    +2
    oh i don't think it does but i think sometimes ppl mistake love for one's country as hate/dislike for other country
  • Red Branch Haley 2012/05/26 03:29:49
    Red Branch
    +5
    Some people do, but that means they didn't learn the proper way to love one's country.

    It also includes being a good ambassador and spreading good will when in contact with foreigners, whether you are over there or they are over here.
  • l0oky 2012/05/25 09:04:06
    l0oky
    +2
    I believe that Liberty can be achieved. But Liberty can never be achieved through politics! If you think otherwise you are a moron, no doubt about that.
  • EmoMcPa... l0oky 2012/05/25 14:19:46
    EmoMcParland
    +3
    Liberty is seized; & then protected with deadly force.
  • Red Branch l0oky 2012/05/25 15:52:41
    Red Branch
    +4
    Really, read our Declaration of Independence and the Federalist Papers. That is the purpose of our govt.
  • EmoMcPa... Red Branch 2012/05/25 23:52:00
    EmoMcParland
    +3
    And The Department of Defense is part of Our government department defense government
  • Red Branch EmoMcPa... 2012/05/26 03:30:36
    Red Branch
    +3
    I know.
  • MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +9
    AMEN!! GREAT JOB, SE!!!
    one nation under God
  • Scalded... MIZ® ₱... 2012/05/25 16:12:20
    Scalded Eagle
    +4
    Thanks Miz for your support of America. Scalded Eagle
  • MIZ® ₱... Scalded... 2012/05/25 16:15:46
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +6
    That's what we do! Always support God, Country, Family & Friends~:)
  • JingerJewels 2012/05/25 02:12:13
    JingerJewels
    +3
    You may want to remind Odimwit of this Obama hates America
  • Scalded... JingerJ... 2012/05/25 16:14:26
    Scalded Eagle
    +2
    I hates me some America Haters!
  • ProudCommie 2012/05/25 01:51:18 (edited)
    ProudCommie
    +1
    I got a rave for you.

  • Haley ProudCo... 2012/05/25 10:00:44
    Haley
    +4
    The beauty of America: we allow people to burn our flag and spread hate because the nation strongly supports freedom of speech .
  • EmoMcPa... Haley 2012/05/25 14:28:23
    EmoMcParland
    +4
    However if I was present for this event; I would not limit their speech I'ld make them pay for it with their blood. event limit speech ild pay blood
  • Jay EmoMcPa... 2012/05/25 22:50:50
    Jay
    +3
    And as for you you my american opposite, you are a sterling example of america. if words don't work a massive bomb or gun in your face will fix the problem. typical! is it any wonder why you are hated?
    You would kill these men because they burned your flag? your troops urinated on their enemies in Afghanistan! Im sure that is worse than burning a flag. and if america did kill these men for burning the American flag then russia would demand retribution. causing a war most probably.

    So next time you feel like acting all tough and superior remember that your not as popular as you might think. oh and this is why you don't want to start a war with me. retribution causing war feel acting tough superior remember popular war
  • EmoMcPa... Jay 2012/05/26 05:12:04 (edited)
    EmoMcParland
    +3
    I'm here tough Guy want my adress I'll shove that gun up your ass!
  • Jay EmoMcPa... 2012/05/26 23:15:14
    Jay
    Are you by any chance gay? I am sorry to disappoint you but I prefer to keep pointy objects away from my posterior. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course, whatever floats-your-boat.
  • MIZ® ₱... Jay 2012/05/31 11:35:01
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    LMAO You just lost whatever 'toughness' you thought you had...
  • MIZ® ₱... Jay 2012/05/31 11:31:04
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    1st of all.... America is not hated. Only haters say that...lol

    Secondly.... you damn straight we fight for our country~ don't like it, leave.
    Love and respect us? (as most DO) We'll gladly return back to you.... all the respect you can handle!! :)
  • Jay Haley 2012/05/25 22:06:15
    Jay
    +3
    Im sorry to "hate" but your country has declared war, because they didn't want other nations turning to communism. you attacked vietnam, divided korea and almost annhilated the entire planet during the cold war with russia. The majority of you are sick, twist, psychopaths caring for nothing and nobody but yourselves. Russians have stood to the side lines while america poisons the world with its propaganda. i cannot condone america, its people, its beliefs or its ideologies. Petty fighting
  • Haley Jay 2012/05/26 00:26:10 (edited)
    Haley
    +4
    Yup, we don't like communism because it oppresses people and their rights under totalitarian cruelty and it lowers the living standard of its people, how truly wicked we are. Vietnam was a war most Americans believe was a waste, but many Vietnamese wanted to be free from communism and wanted our help. Thank god we divided Korea, I'm sure most south Koreans are grateful they weren't sucked into the economically barren wasteland that is north Korea. I only wish we could have pushed communism out of all Korea so the North Koreans wouldn't be suffering like they are. Other countries were forced to become communist by the USSR. One of many examples is poland.
    Both the Soviet Union and the USA were participants in the Cold War and both had nukes, it's pretty uniformed to push all the blame on the USA. In fact, I think Russia to this day still has more nukes than us.
    Your claim that the majority of us citizens are sick psychopaths who only care for themselves is absolutely ridiculous. Wouldn't you be surprised to know that "Americans give more to charity, per capita and as a percentage of gross domestic product, than the citizens of other nations."
    http://www.forbes.com/2008/12...
    Maybe you should learn some facts before you spew tired anti-American bigotry.
  • jool Haley 2012/05/26 00:44:50
    jool
    +4
    Amen, haley!
  • Jay Haley 2012/05/26 01:33:18 (edited)
    Jay
    +4
    OK, first off communism isn't ideal i know that, but neither is capitalism. If a country decided to become communist then that is there right, i am aware that it prevents people from become richer or poorer than others but perhaps that is not such a bad thing. If a country wishes to live as such, then they should be allowed to. And in the case of Korea... Korea's leader wanted a unified country. So they enlisted the help of the Soviet Union to try to take control. They helped to try reuniting the country, but there was bound to be resistance as southern Korea leaned towards capitalism. Had the Soviet Union been successful, the korean people would be unified as one country under communism, yes i know, but later that same century communism in the USSR (Russia) disbanded, which would have no doubt have caused other communist countries to follow their example. So not only would Korea be a single country but it could have prevented the deaths of thousands. Same applies with Vietnam. So America's intervention caused far more deaths than they saved. The fact that Russia has more nuclear warheads than america, means nothing. If it weren't for america discovering the atomic bomb, perhaps nuclear weapons wouldn't exist. Therefore the most destructive weapon known to man would not have b...








    OK, first off communism isn't ideal i know that, but neither is capitalism. If a country decided to become communist then that is there right, i am aware that it prevents people from become richer or poorer than others but perhaps that is not such a bad thing. If a country wishes to live as such, then they should be allowed to. And in the case of Korea... Korea's leader wanted a unified country. So they enlisted the help of the Soviet Union to try to take control. They helped to try reuniting the country, but there was bound to be resistance as southern Korea leaned towards capitalism. Had the Soviet Union been successful, the korean people would be unified as one country under communism, yes i know, but later that same century communism in the USSR (Russia) disbanded, which would have no doubt have caused other communist countries to follow their example. So not only would Korea be a single country but it could have prevented the deaths of thousands. Same applies with Vietnam. So America's intervention caused far more deaths than they saved. The fact that Russia has more nuclear warheads than america, means nothing. If it weren't for america discovering the atomic bomb, perhaps nuclear weapons wouldn't exist. Therefore the most destructive weapon known to man would not have been created, developed, produced and tested by Americans. Can you really justify such a devastating weapon?

    And you went off in a tangent when you said America gives the most to charity. anybody can give to charity, and the reason why America has given so much to charity is because America has a bigger population than other countries.
    And i will agree that Russia has made its fair share of 'Cock-ups'. And it was unfair to blame it all on America. In fact it was both the US's fault and Russia's fault. On the other hand though Russia have fought for the betterment of mankind, far more than America. After all, they fought in both world wars, suffering great losses. I think that warrants them some amnesty for the atrocities they caused.

    america fought world wars suffering losses warrants amnesty atrocities caused

    america fought world wars suffering losses warrants amnesty atrocities caused

    Which would you prefer, Communism or nuclear weapons?
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  • Haley Jay 2012/05/27 01:13:57
    Haley
    +2
    And when did I ever say I thought capitalism was perfect? It's not, but it's the best system we have to pull the most people out of poverty. Capitalism allows people to freely innovate and that's what spurs economic growth. Communism doesn't only stop the growth of personal wealth but it lowers the living standard of all its people (again see North Korea vs South Korea). Capitalist South Korea has around the tenth largest economy in the world while Communist North Korea has near non-existent economy.

    Every country does have the right to self-determination so shouldn't the capitalists in the south of Korea have been allowed to make their own nation as they did by your own reasoning?? And ik that the koreans want to be unified, but the vast majority of South Koreans do not want to be communist like the North and I'd assume many would be concerned about the economic fallout of joining with the North today. And north korea is still communist today even tho the ussr has fallen so there is zero reason to believe the situation would be different today if the entire country was unified. Sure many died in the Korean war, but do you know how many of its own ppl north korea kills thru its disastrous policies and thru their horrid gulags? I believe more lives, south korean lives in particu...





    And when did I ever say I thought capitalism was perfect? It's not, but it's the best system we have to pull the most people out of poverty. Capitalism allows people to freely innovate and that's what spurs economic growth. Communism doesn't only stop the growth of personal wealth but it lowers the living standard of all its people (again see North Korea vs South Korea). Capitalist South Korea has around the tenth largest economy in the world while Communist North Korea has near non-existent economy.

    Every country does have the right to self-determination so shouldn't the capitalists in the south of Korea have been allowed to make their own nation as they did by your own reasoning?? And ik that the koreans want to be unified, but the vast majority of South Koreans do not want to be communist like the North and I'd assume many would be concerned about the economic fallout of joining with the North today. And north korea is still communist today even tho the ussr has fallen so there is zero reason to believe the situation would be different today if the entire country was unified. Sure many died in the Korean war, but do you know how many of its own ppl north korea kills thru its disastrous policies and thru their horrid gulags? I believe more lives, south korean lives in particular, were saved by the war. And some things, like freedom, are worth fighting and dying for.

    Vietnam was poorly conducted. We made many mistakes. But we were fighting for the freedom of others. This is why I love my country, not because I labor under the delusion that the Usa is perfect, but because of its ideals, its effort to realize these ideals, and its people.

    You accused the majority of Americans of being selfish psychopaths so showing that the USA gives more to charity than any other country PER CAPITA was hardly going off on a tangent. Per capita means per person in comparison to every other country, even compared to other developed nations, so I hardly thinks it's just because the USA is wealthy. The article is very fair to other nations saying they are sometimes more heavily taxes, etc. I don't think americans are somehow innately better than any other group, but I think the American culture supports Christian generosity, hard work, and efficiency. So this leads to charitable behavior, another reason I love my country.

    And, finally, with the choice of contained, controlled nukes or suffering in a communist gulag, I definitely would pick the nukes.
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  • Jay Haley 2012/05/27 02:09:32
    Jay
    That just goes to show that the Americans would rather destroy the world dozens of times over, and use that weapon as leverage against other nations, than find any peaceful solution to a conflict. Both communism and capitalism are flawed. The main difference is that one has a distinguishable pyramid of wealth. And I really don't understand why you Americans go on about christian values and what-not. I am Atheist and am very respectful of other peoples beliefs, opinions and/or religions. However your country is so fixated on following the christian lifestyle, that you dismiss other religions and cultures, or the disbelief of christianity. For example, I have a mixed culture/race friendship group, and they are all individuals with their own beliefs and opinions. I respect each one of them because they always accept their cultures/religions mistakes. I have a chinese friend who is shocked at what Mao did. I have a American friend who despises the way his country treats the rest of the world. My Indian friend always thought that the relationship between GB and them was one of the greatest things that every happened to his country, yet he understands what Gandhi did was the right thing to do. I also have a part German friend, who hates the fact his country has been black listed, bu...











    That just goes to show that the Americans would rather destroy the world dozens of times over, and use that weapon as leverage against other nations, than find any peaceful solution to a conflict. Both communism and capitalism are flawed. The main difference is that one has a distinguishable pyramid of wealth. And I really don't understand why you Americans go on about christian values and what-not. I am Atheist and am very respectful of other peoples beliefs, opinions and/or religions. However your country is so fixated on following the christian lifestyle, that you dismiss other religions and cultures, or the disbelief of christianity. For example, I have a mixed culture/race friendship group, and they are all individuals with their own beliefs and opinions. I respect each one of them because they always accept their cultures/religions mistakes. I have a chinese friend who is shocked at what Mao did. I have a American friend who despises the way his country treats the rest of the world. My Indian friend always thought that the relationship between GB and them was one of the greatest things that every happened to his country, yet he understands what Gandhi did was the right thing to do. I also have a part German friend, who hates the fact his country has been black listed, but understands that Germany was wrongly accused in WW1. Even i am not proud of some of the things GB have down to others, the causes for the American revolution for example. I respect your love for your country. But sometimes things our countries do can never be justified so we must accept them and move on. But unfortunately Americans are far too stubborn and proud. Perhaps if you could accept, that these atrocities you caused can not be rightfully justified, then the world would respect you a whole lot more.

    And i can't believe that you think killing thousands of people instantly, along with burning the ozone layer (that keeps us alive!) is a great idea! You said controlled nuclear attacks, yet the bomb that fell on Nagasaki was meant for a different city. The plane was running out of fuel so they decided to obliterate a city, that men had sweat and bleed to build, not to mention the men themselves, their families and the entire biological effect it had on that region. Nothing can justify that. The sooner you understand that and get off of your 'high-horse' the sooner your country will be viewed as a benevolent country.

    Your previous comment showed me that you believe that "the ends justify the means". "We got our troops killed, but what does it matter? We won! We have helped that country defeat... ITSELF?"

    Oh and yet your point about charity is still not relevant. In fact the article states that most of the money goes into churches, which would then benefit your own country's economy. AMERICAN TOP TIP FOR A GOOD ECONOMY: GIVE YOUR MONEY TO YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT! Great advise.

    Perhaps i have been too harsh on Americas short-sighted decisions in the past. However i will not stand up for the use of any kind of nuclear weapon, threatening or otherwise. So i suggest you take a good long look at the road you follow... What is at the end?

    I think it looks something like this...

    government advise harsh americas short-sighted decisions nuclear weapon threatening road
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  • Haley Jay 2012/05/27 02:42:44 (edited)
    Haley
    +2
    You really think most Americans prefer to "destroy the world dozens of times over" than find peace? That's ridiculous; Americans just aren't afraid to fight for what's right and yes sometimes the end does justify the means. If entering a war ends up protecting freedom and saving more lives than are lost, then going to war is almost an imperative. War is serious, of course lives matter, and war should not be used unless necessary, but sometimes it is necessary and moral. For example, WWII.

    And yes Capitalist democracy is flawed but it is far, far superior to Communist dictatorships. In capitalism, the government is kept in check so the people are not ruled by Stalin and most people's living standards are improved. It is simply silliness to claim that communism is as equally flawed as capitalism.

    I'm actually not a Christian, but I admire my country's Christian ethics. And I do too admire other religions and cultures. I admire my nation's diversity. And I already said anyone who thinks the USA is a flawless, perfect is deluded themselves. I think the nuclear attacks on Japan were tragic, but I think they ended the war quickly saving more lives than the nukes took. The Japanese told enemy POWs that when America invaded the nation, they'd kill every single one of them. They were ove...





    You really think most Americans prefer to "destroy the world dozens of times over" than find peace? That's ridiculous; Americans just aren't afraid to fight for what's right and yes sometimes the end does justify the means. If entering a war ends up protecting freedom and saving more lives than are lost, then going to war is almost an imperative. War is serious, of course lives matter, and war should not be used unless necessary, but sometimes it is necessary and moral. For example, WWII.

    And yes Capitalist democracy is flawed but it is far, far superior to Communist dictatorships. In capitalism, the government is kept in check so the people are not ruled by Stalin and most people's living standards are improved. It is simply silliness to claim that communism is as equally flawed as capitalism.

    I'm actually not a Christian, but I admire my country's Christian ethics. And I do too admire other religions and cultures. I admire my nation's diversity. And I already said anyone who thinks the USA is a flawless, perfect is deluded themselves. I think the nuclear attacks on Japan were tragic, but I think they ended the war quickly saving more lives than the nukes took. The Japanese told enemy POWs that when America invaded the nation, they'd kill every single one of them. They were over 100,000 POWs. The Japanese citizens, many of them at the time, and the Japanese army were willing to fight to the last man. It would be an absolute bloodbath, I believe millions would have died. If my country was just trying to kill as many Japanese as possible, then we would have nuked Tokyo. We didn't, this was a controlled use of nukes.

    When did I say using nukes to kill is a great idea? I think it was an absolute last resort, and I hope they are never used again. I think in the nuclear bombing of Japan, we made the best choice available. And it was terrible, but it is likely it saved more lives than were lost even including the toll the radiation took on the population. We were not vicious towards Japan, we helped them rebuild, but they needed to be stopped. and we did stop them with the smallest amount of life lost.

    We have never used nuclear weapons again because we have never been in such a desperate situation again. In this day and age, I don't believe they will ever be used again because more countries than ever have them so using them would seriously increasing the chances of creating a global nuclear war which would cost more lives than would ever be saved.

    I'm not on some stubborn high horse horse. Ik there are legitimate complaints against my country. I'm not ignorant about the fact we have sometimes abandoned our ideals, supporting dictators for practical purposes and entering wars, imo, iraq, we should not have entered. But I'm always going to admire my country for its ideals, for trying to implement these ideals, and its culture.
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  • MIZ® ₱... Haley 2012/05/31 11:38:53
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +1
    Great comments~:)
  • Diana Haley 2012/05/26 22:51:42
    Diana
    +2
    Raved by mistake.please God forgive me.The only decent person in your country is your Queen.

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