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ServantOfAllah 2012/08/02 03:38:53
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  • Jester M.S. 2012/08/02 03:42:45 (edited)
    Jester M.S.
    +34
    Nope, I will not be participating. While I am in favor of gay marriage, I find the tactics of left politicians against free speech and free enterprise to be revolting beyond description, and I would never associate myself with such drivel.

    Disagreeing with CFA is very American, as is dissent in general, but attempting to ban them from your city for their beliefs is fascism.

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  • Pamela ... shenendoah 2012/08/03 22:58:35
    Pamela Perkins
    +1
    Good one, funny!
  • shenendoah Pamela ... 2012/08/04 01:04:02
    shenendoah
    Thanks, girl.
  • Pamela ... shenendoah 2012/08/04 11:46:41
    Pamela Perkins
    +1
    Your welcome!
  • Singerar shenendoah 2012/08/04 22:57:17
    Singerar
    Yes, and they Cons are getting FAT!
  • shenendoah Singerar 2012/08/05 00:16:22
    shenendoah
    +1
    WOW another gem from good old CA. Your theory is people don't care how stupid you are as long as you look good. Folks that choose to lose weight can go on a diet but you can't fix stupid. Look at hollywood and the type of non-humans liberals admire. Excellent example.
  • Singerar shenendoah 2012/08/14 21:14:11
    Singerar
    I'm FROM Arkansas, so your theory is idiotic at best!
  • shenendoah Singerar 2012/08/15 06:20:55
    shenendoah
    Big deal, so am I. However I notice your location is CA, 'nuff said.
  • Singerar shenendoah 2012/08/15 08:01:14
    Singerar
    No, you made a Gross assumption based on a State! How silly is that?
  • brittany 2012/08/03 21:09:23
    brittany
    +1
    no i am not raving nor am i boycotting.
  • flrdsgns 2012/08/03 20:51:19
    flrdsgns
    I don't eat there, I've never even heard of them before. I see no reason to boycott them though. They are entitled to their opinion. I don't agree with it, but I think the mayors of Chicago, Boston and San Francisco are dead wrong in trying to ban chic fil a from opening in their cities.
  • Rich 2012/08/03 20:42:54
    Rich
    +6
    I will boycott. It's my small contribution to equal rights for gays.
  • Jordache Rich 2012/08/03 21:53:36
    Jordache
    +3
    Thanks. =)
  • DavidK Rich 2012/08/28 04:43:49
    DavidK
    how does that benefit gays by posting your ignorance?
  • Rich DavidK 2012/08/28 15:37:55
    Rich
    I see that you're not interested in a dialog but rather prefer to make a fool out of yourself as you delude yourself into thinking you're witty.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/08/28 16:25:13
    DavidK
    ROTFL!!!! No actually you can't answer the question!!!!!
  • Rich DavidK 2012/08/29 03:01:14
    Rich
    I'm not going to debate an immature teenager.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/08/29 03:38:51 (edited)
    DavidK
    Thats because you would lose to an immature teenager. Now as far as myself, I would eat you up like a bon bon. Thats why you want to spin your way out of answering.
  • Rich DavidK 2012/08/29 15:01:24
    Rich
    If you were one thousandth the debater you fancy yourself to be, you'd be really something.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/08/30 20:06:18
    DavidK
    yea, hard to debate idiots that don't want to participate. FANCY THAT!
  • Rich DavidK 2012/08/31 03:39:50
    Rich
    I'll make you a deal, son. You pick the topic and, if I'm comfortable with it, we'll have at it. However, I do have one stipulation: you have to conduct yourself as an adult. No insults, no silly preening, just facts and logic. If you agree and then renege, we're done. If you're game, suggest an issue.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/08/31 03:45:27
    DavidK
    Better yet, you pick one that comfortable with you! I have no problem debating any of them!
  • Rich DavidK 2012/08/31 14:36:57
    Rich
    That's fine. I didn't want you to pick up a topic where I am ambivalent or don't feel qualified.
    Let's make it the new Affordable Care Act. I'll start with a proposition that some Republicans agree with. Do you support banning discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions? If so, how would you go about getting the support of private carriers without a mandate? If not, why not?
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/03 03:25:35
    DavidK
    Pre-existing means something that happened before you got insurance. Do you think that if you got into a car accident with no insurance you should be able to call an agent when you have one and expect his company to pay for your accident? Doesn't work that way otherwise nobody would carry auto insurance.
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/03 03:35:04
    Rich
    Your example is exactly why we mandate that people buy auto insurance. The new health care law simply applies the same principle to health care.
    Also, in the case of pre-existing conditions, we're talking about problems people suffer from often through no fault of their own. Are you really so socially darwinistic as to say to an individual in this predicament, "Too bad that you cannot buy insurance. If you have to go bankrupt paying your medical bills as a result, that's your hard luck."
    As a practical matter, your position illustrates why health care costs have exploded. We don't deny people without coverage medical care, and they usually wind up getting it when their condition has reached emergency proportions. Providers know they aren't going to get paid in full, maybe not even in part. So they charge more to those who have coverage. The insurance companies recoup these additional costs by charging more in premiums to their customers. Thus, the costs are shifted on to the rest of us, and we all wind up with bigger bills as a result.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/03 03:44:49
    DavidK
    So who's going to pay for all of this?
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/03 16:45:18
    Rich
    Preventive care is much less costly than emergency treatment. Overall medical costs should decline as cost shifting declines. Today the US spends more than twice as much per capita as the next most expensive country. I don't think it's a coincidence that we don't have universal coverage. Insurance companies agreed to support the new health care law because, while they must accept riskier customers at the same premium, the mandate means they will have a larger pool of insureds.
    Now I will freely admit the biggest weakness in the new law is the need for more cost controls, but even so the CBO projects some savings.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/03 16:57:37
    DavidK
    So who pays for it?!?!?!?!? Preventive care will no longer exist with Universal Health care. It needs to be fixed, NOT destroyed! Here's proof.....

    A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

    U.S. 65%

    England 46%

    Canada 42%


    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

    U.S. 93%

    England 15%

    Canada 43%


    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

    U.S. 90%

    England 15%

    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

    U.S. 77%

    England 40%

    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

    U.S. 71

    England 14
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    So who pays for it?!?!?!?!? Preventive care will no longer exist with Universal Health care. It needs to be fixed, NOT destroyed! Here's proof.....

    A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

    U.S. 65%

    England 46%

    Canada 42%


    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

    U.S. 93%

    England 15%

    Canada 43%


    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

    U.S. 90%

    England 15%

    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

    U.S. 77%

    England 40%

    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

    U.S. 71

    England 14

    Canada 18

    Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
    U.S. 12%
    England 2
    Canada 6

    And now for the last statistic:

    National Health Insurance? (Universal health)

    U.S. NO

    England YES

    Canada YES

    Check this last set of statistics!!

    The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked inthe private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is a real-life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.
    T. Roosevelt.................... 38%

    Taft............................ 40%

    Wilson ........................... 52%

    Harding......................... 49%

    Coolidge........................ 48%

    Hoover.......................... 42%

    F. Roosevelt................... 50%

    Truman.......................... 50%

    Eisenhower................ .... 57%

    Kennedy......................... 30%

    Johnson......................... 47%

    Nixon........................... 53%

    Ford............................ 42%

    Carter.......................... 32%

    Reagan.......................... 56%

    GH Bush......................... 51%

    Clinton .......................... 39%

    GW Bush........................ 55%

    Obama........................... 8%

    This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration: only 8% of them have ever worked in private business!

    That's right! Only eight percent---the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business?
    How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers." They should have been in an employment line.
    Pass this on because we'll NEVER see these facts in the main stream media.
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  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/04 03:21:38
    Rich
    If our current health care system is so successful, please explain this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    You'll have to scrolll down a ways. We're in 38th place.
    We do slightly better in infant mortality. We're 34th.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    This is why our health care system is ranked 39th by the World Health Organization.
    Taiwan recently studied many countries' health delivery systems to determine which way to go. What did they have to say about the American system? "It taught us how not to do it."
    As for the business experience argument, I've never understood why Republicans place such a premium on this.
    Bush spent several yrs in the private sector, and look where that got us. The last president to spend virtually his entire life in business was Herbert Hoover. How'd that work out?
    Do you think Paul Ryan lacks the requisite experience to be president? His private sector experience consists of driving a Wienermobile. Personally, I'm as anti-Ryan as anyone you'll ever meet, but it's not his lack of biz experience that troubles me.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/04 03:28:18
    DavidK
    Look where NO experience got us! !6 trillion in debt!!! High unemployment! explain that! Thought so.....
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/04 12:49:36
    Rich
    If you actually look at the debt on a time graph, you'll find that most of the new red ink was during 2009. The first nine months of that yr we were still operating under the last Bush fiscal budget.
    Incidentally, perhaps you can explain to me why, if red ink is so important to right-wingers, Reagan is so revered. He more than tripled the debt and doubled the deficit during his eight yrs. In fact,he rang up more debt in his tenure than his 39 predecessors *combined* did in the previous 190 yrs of this republic's existence.
    But you're drifting off subject. The issue is health care.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/07 07:32:59
    DavidK
    OBAMACARE will never begin. MARK MY WORDS!

    ghgnghn
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/08 02:04:37
    Rich
    First, that is a partisan prediction. Second, it's incorrect. Some of it has been implemented. For example, young adults 19-25 can now stay on their parents' policies.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/08 04:59:28
    DavidK
    Sad young adults have to remain as children until 25 isn't it!
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/09 04:49:46
    Rich
    Yes, though not the way you mean it. It's sad that health care has become so expensive that the average young person cannot afford coverage on his own.
    For the third time, please explain why it's right that, if you choose not to buy insurance and then have a serious medical problem, those of us who do carry coverage have to pay your care. If you don't answer, I have to conclude you cannot.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/09 05:20:06
    DavidK
    Taxpayers pay for the uninsured no matter what. If we have Obamacare we will be required to have it. Can't wait to see that one fail too.
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/10 00:17:19
    Rich
    With a mandate, taxpayers will pay less. You don't have to believe me. Check out the report by the nonpartisan CBO. Why do you think our per capita costs are more than double those of any other country? Because we have 50M uninsured. Even Romney understands this, which is why he supported a mandate in Massachusetts. He realized he could not hold this position and be a viable candidate for the GOP nomination, so he switched. Even today, while saying he opposes the mandate, Romney says he supports non-discrimination for people with pre-existing conditions purchasing insurance. How he plans to accomplish that without a mandate is the $64K question.
    Incidentally, the mandate is the brainchild of the very right-wing Heritage Foundation. It was part of the GOP counter proposal to Clinton's health care bill. Of course, Heritage is very partisan, so, with a Dem president supporting it, they did a 180 and strenuously oppose their own idea.
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/04 03:24:54
    Rich
    I forgot to rebut your initial point. How does providing for measures such as physical exams, annual mammograms for women, etc as a mandatory part of basic coverage weaken preventive care ? It clearly does just the opposite.
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/04 03:28:56
    DavidK
    Why do Canadians flock here for care then?
  • Rich DavidK 2012/09/04 12:53:50
    Rich
    That's a myth. The ones who come here are the right wing's favorite, the one percenters. We do have a great health care system...for those who can afford it. In fact, most Canadians prefer their system to ours.

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/sea...

    http://in.reuters.com/article...

    Now I have a question for you. Do you think it's fair that, if you choose to forego health insurance and I don't, that I pay more in premium to subsidize your care if you require expensive care?
  • DavidK Rich 2012/09/07 07:35:13
    DavidK
    you can't buy car insurance after an accident..........

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