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American☆Atheist 2012/08/02 22:36:35
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  • kobidob... skroehr 2012/08/04 20:57:27 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    +2
    Humans make up disorders to get devils in people riled up. Christians don't open their yap trying to make another less than they are.
  • joseph ... skroehr 2012/08/07 23:18:12
    joseph digristina
    That was one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. You don't understand why gay people are fighting against people who want to deny them their rights? Hell? Hello? Hello?
    The sad thing is people like you who tolerate bigotry and homophobia. You Christians think you have a right to persecute anyone you want and then act surprised when people fight back against your hate speech? My God, you are naive.
  • skroehr joseph ... 2012/08/08 15:50:11
    skroehr
    This is the ACTUAL Christian view on homosexuality. It is the one which I subscribe to. The only intolerance I've personally seen is by the homosexual community towards Christians who hold these beliefs. There are Christians who could play a little nicer in the sandbox. I won't disagree with that. But there are many more homosexuals who should be nicer, and grow a little tolerance of their own for Christians. Christian persecution is a sincerely intolerant, and bigoted view, and it is deeply hurtful to Christians who wish to simply live and preach the Gospel, and help people get to heaven. 1 in a million of us might be a Phelps type character. The rest of us are simply good citizens concerned about the rapid decline of the society and culture around us.

    Here is the actual stance, for educational purposes. And hey, when you hear someone saying something beside this, then absolutely, call them on it.

    May God bless,

    Steven


    The various forms of chastity

    2348 All the baptized are called to chastity. the Christian has "put on Christ,"134 The model for all chastity. All Christ's faithful are called to lead a chaste life in keeping with their particular states of life. At the moment of his Baptism, the Christian is pledged to lead his affective life in chastity.

    2349 "People should...


























    This is the ACTUAL Christian view on homosexuality. It is the one which I subscribe to. The only intolerance I've personally seen is by the homosexual community towards Christians who hold these beliefs. There are Christians who could play a little nicer in the sandbox. I won't disagree with that. But there are many more homosexuals who should be nicer, and grow a little tolerance of their own for Christians. Christian persecution is a sincerely intolerant, and bigoted view, and it is deeply hurtful to Christians who wish to simply live and preach the Gospel, and help people get to heaven. 1 in a million of us might be a Phelps type character. The rest of us are simply good citizens concerned about the rapid decline of the society and culture around us.

    Here is the actual stance, for educational purposes. And hey, when you hear someone saying something beside this, then absolutely, call them on it.

    May God bless,

    Steven


    The various forms of chastity

    2348 All the baptized are called to chastity. the Christian has "put on Christ,"134 The model for all chastity. All Christ's faithful are called to lead a chaste life in keeping with their particular states of life. At the moment of his Baptism, the Christian is pledged to lead his affective life in chastity.

    2349 "People should cultivate [chastity] in the way that is suited to their state of life. Some profess virginity or consecrated celibacy which enables them to give themselves to God alone with an undivided heart in a remarkable manner. Others live in the way prescribed for all by the moral law, whether they are married or single."135 Married people are called to live conjugal chastity; others practice chastity in continence:

    There are three forms of the virtue of chastity: the first is that of spouses, the second that of widows, and the third that of virgins. We do not praise any one of them to the exclusion of the others.... This is what makes for the richness of the discipline of the Church.136

    2350 Those who are engaged to marry are called to live chastity in continence. They should see in this time of testing a discovery of mutual respect, an apprenticeship in fidelity, and the hope of receiving one another from God. They should reserve for marriage the expressions of affection that belong to married love. They will help each other grow in chastity.

    Offenses against chastity

    2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

    2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138
    To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, or other psychological or social factors that lessen or even extenuate moral culpability.

    2353 Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

    2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

    2355 Prostitution does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. the one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit.139 Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure.

    2356 Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them.

    Chastity and homosexuality

    2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

    2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

    2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
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  • joseph ... skroehr 2012/08/09 01:58:16
    joseph digristina
    You go live as a gay person for one week and then come back to me with that utterly ridiculous statement that the only intolerance you have ever seen is on the part of gays to straights. It's so damned preposterous a comment that I have no intention of wasting another second of my time on it. It's laughable and so are you. And anyone with an ounce of logic or common sense will be laughing at you right along with me.
  • skroehr joseph ... 2012/08/09 14:11:02
    skroehr
    This is what I am experiencing in my life, whether you find it laughable or not. Sorry you don't get it. Don't know what I've done to you personally, but they haven't warrented you being rude and angry. I hope you get to feeling better. May God Bless you,

    Steven
  • joseph ... skroehr 2012/08/09 21:18:21
    joseph digristina
    What all Christians have always attempted to do to me, persecute me and attempt to legally instill your religious prejudice into the law. And you think I'm so suppose to be happy that you do that? You people are oblivious to the prejudice and hate you promote, and you think your bigotry will get you into
    heaven. I think not.
  • Jack's Pearl 2012/08/04 12:44:18
    RAVE
    Jack's Pearl
    +3
    I am always on the side of basic human rights. I don't care the situation.
  • Sissy 2012/08/04 12:34:17
    RAVE
    Sissy
    +3
    As someone who once owned a small business, I cannot believe what this large business CEO would have been so utterly foolish and yes, "stupid". He got a lot of publicity in the first days with the massive support of people flooding into his establishments, but it will soon go back to "normal" but those like me (who had never heard of this chain before), will make a concerted effort to never give him a dime should we run across this restaurant on our travels.
  • kobidob... Sissy 2012/08/04 21:02:15 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    +2
    What I would like to hear is a humble apology from the owners of chick- Fil - A to mend the bridge that their reckless hatred tore down.
  • Sissy kobidob... 2012/08/05 11:12:43
    Sissy
    +2
    I think you would be waiting a long, long time kobidob. It would be an apology about as sincere as Rushbo's to Sandra Fluke.
  • kobidob... Sissy 2012/08/05 15:34:38
    kobidobidog
    +2
    Chick personnel are stiff necked, unmoving, and downright stubborn. All of the characteristics of the devil trying to put on the face of Christ. They are seeking vain glory. When they see they are seeking essentially nothing maybe a real apology will be given.
    Deuteronomy 9 >6Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.
    King James Version
  • VampFreak13 2012/08/04 11:23:59
    RAVE
    VampFreak13
    +3
    I am appalled by this inhuman behavior...get a life buttholes...this is American...people are free to be who they are... :)
  • TruBluT... VampFre... 2012/08/04 17:10:49
    TruBluTopaz
    +2
    Unless they use their free speech rights to express their own ideas, right? Take away freedom from Cathy and you risk losing it yourself.
  • VampFre... TruBluT... 2012/08/04 18:04:34
    VampFreak13
    +4
    There's a fine line between practicing one's right to free speech and oppressing people who express that right themselves...this is why most people try to avoid discussing subjects such as religion...politics...sports.... are always people who try to use their right to free speech to force their belief on others who disagree... :)
  • kobidob... VampFre... 2012/08/04 21:07:58 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    +2
    Oppressing is wrong. The oppressor of the gay, bestialist is religion doing the oppressing of the one in the white rob with the single sash.
  • VampFre... kobidob... 2012/08/04 21:16:29
    VampFreak13
    +2
    Yes...oppression is wrong...no matter where it comes from... :)
  • TruBluT... VampFre... 2012/08/05 02:06:47
  • VampFre... TruBluT... 2012/08/05 10:00:25
    VampFreak13
    I disagree with this article...but that is my right...so I choose to follow it...but thank you for sharing the info...it was interesting... :)
  • TruBluT... VampFre... 2012/08/05 02:03:37
    TruBluTopaz
    How did someone expressing opinions oppress you? Did it change your life? Is it not possible that your acceptance of gay lifestyle is oppressive to those who find it to be wrong? How do you deal with Muslims and Conservative Jews? Do you attack their businesses and judge all their employees? How far do you want to take this denial of freedom?
  • VampFre... TruBluT... 2012/08/05 10:04:50
    VampFreak13
    +3
    I personally am not given to being oppressed...I can not remember a time when I ever felt oppressed...I have no problem with others thoughts and beliefs...that is what makes us the individuals that we are...my best friend and ex-boyfriend are both Jewish...I have dated men from many different backgrounds and have 2 very close relatives that are gay...oppressing any of these people would both hurt and anger me...nuff said... :)
  • kobidob... TruBluT... 2012/08/04 21:05:21
    kobidobidog
    +1
    They have the right to be right with God, and man. If they don't they will have the right to die in Gods light.
  • Sissy kobidob... 2012/08/05 11:15:22
    Sissy
    +1
    Therein lies the conundrum for you......God doesn't care what you think when it comes to people, its for Him and HIm alone to judge. I believe He's mentioned it more than once throughout his Book.
  • kobidob... Sissy 2012/08/05 15:48:38
    kobidobidog
    +1
    God is in you caring. When that spirit enters the personnel of chick - Fil - A they will think the same way you do. Until then they are choosing to be stiff necked seeking vain glory.
  • kobidob... TruBluT... 2012/08/04 22:32:59 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    The hater like the humans running that restaurant named Cathy have no idea what they are losing. The hater that values their soul had better repent of their own will or they in the end will wish they did.
  • Dolly 2012/08/04 09:56:06
  • Machinegunn 2012/08/04 07:50:55
  • Andrew 2012/08/04 07:42:06
    No, I am an anti-american homophobic chick-fil-a eater, nomnomnom
    Andrew
    +12
    Obviously, you fear opposition and can't handle the truth, American Atheist. But, that doesn't surprise me. Neither I, or the executives of Chick-Fil-A "hate" homosexuals. What we do hate is the sin and deviance of homosexuality. It is the perversion of the beautiful and holy sanctity of marriage. It is dangerous to the physical health of ALL who participate in it and I will fight to the end to turn the young people of our nation and world for that matter to the truth! There is NOTHING wrong with two men having true love for one another. There is EVERYTHING wrong with two men having sexual relations! It is PERVERSION!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 07:54:08
    Machinegunn
    +3
    ......WHO made YOU and the EXECUTIVES of CHICK-FIL-A GOD???......
  • Andrew Machine... 2012/08/04 08:07:07
    Andrew
    +13
    Obviously, it is the militant left who thinks they can play God and silence those who oppose homosexual unions being called marriages. I have never said the left cannot express their belief that their unions are marriages. I have only stated that they are NOT! It is you lefties who think you can silence my free speech and are trying to play "god"!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 08:19:04 (edited)
    Machinegunn
    +1
    ......"FREE SPEECH" belongs to ALL of those who wish to SPEAK!!!...When the SPEECH becomes directed toward a CERTAIN group of HUMANS in order to ALIENATE, than it is called "DISCRIMINATE"!!!...GOD does not DISCRIMINATE!!!......
  • Andrew Machine... 2012/08/04 08:24:17
    Andrew
    +11
    Why are you then speaking against Christians and their beliefs. Aren't you the "pot calling the kettle black" according to your definition? You are violating your own standard! Are you not discriminating. If this freedom belongs to you, does it not belong to me also? What you want is for those who disagree with you to shut-up. We will not! We have not expressed "hate" for anyone. We have expressed opposition to a course of action!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 08:49:16
    Machinegunn
    +2
    ......In your BIBLE, does GOD not say "Do not JUDGE, for YOU shall be JUDGED", and if YOU have FORGOTTEN what your BIBLE has told YOU then maybe, YOU should STUDY a little bit more!!!......
  • Andrew Machine... 2012/08/04 08:54:24 (edited)
    Andrew
    +10
    Jesus said to the woman taken in adultery, "Neither do I condemn thee. Go and sin no more." Sounds like Jesus judged the sin, but loved the sinner, doesn't it?! That is the stand I and the leadership of Chick-Fil-A are doing. We are simply saying that homosexuality is a sin and we are not going to change our stand. But, if you turn from your sin, their is forgiveness from God! Maybe YOU should study more before you speak ignorantly about the Bible and its teaching!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 08:59:02
    Machinegunn
    +3
    ......I am IGNORANT about the BIBLE YOU say, HHHMMM???...GOD only said a SIMPLE SENTENCE for THE SIMPLE MINDED, "Do not JUDGE"!!!...Does your SIMPLE MIND comprehend that???......
  • Andrew Machine... 2012/08/04 09:03:37
    Andrew
    +7
    Where's that found in the Bible, popgun?

    John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

    Those are also the words of Jesus!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 09:12:28
    Machinegunn
    +1
    .......Yet YOU still are JUDGING from APPEARANCE, and APPEARANCES are DECIEVING!!!......
  • Andrew Machine... 2012/08/04 09:17:11
    Andrew
    +7
    I am judging "righteous" judgement. I am only agreeing with what God's Word says! it condemns homosexual behavior and I am agreeing with God. If you are not commiting homosexual acts, you are not affected by what I believe. If you are, then you can be assured I am in disagreement with your behavior. I haven't called anyone by name, nor have I expressed hate for the sinner. I only condemn the behavior. It is God's perogative alone to condemn the sinner!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 09:41:49
    Machinegunn
    +2
    ......How can YOU JUDGE RIGHTIOUS, when YOU cannot remove the SPLINTER from your OWN EYE???......
  • Andrew Machine... 2012/08/04 09:47:34 (edited)
    Andrew
    +6
    I thought that you, as a Bible believer, didn't believe in "judgment"? Yet, you are constantly judging me based on your own bias! Again, you are an opportunist who twists the Bible and the Constitution when erroneously you perceive that they are to your advantage. Secretly, you hate both because they condemn your actions!
  • Machine... Andrew 2012/08/04 09:52:38
    Machinegunn
    +1
    .......I have "JUDGED YOU RIGHTIOUSLY"!!!..."And YOU shall know them by their FRUITS"!!!...I know YOU!!!......

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