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Rave If You Think People Who Sign-Up To Secede From The United States Are Committing Treason Or Are Just Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum ?

Che Guevara - Hero 2012/11/16 22:32:23
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Rave If You Think People Who Sign-Up To Secede From The United States Are Committing Treason Or Are Just Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum.

Title 18 of the United States Codedefines treason and gives it the added emphasis that a death penalty tends to add, as follows, at §2381:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/T/Treason.aspx

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  • sglmom 2012/11/17 01:17:33 (edited)
    I Like Honey Boo Boo
    sglmom
    +53
    NOBODY Supports any Form of ORGANIZED CHILD ABUSE ..
    Except those who have Cowards as monikers on websites ..



    Isn't there some REPRESSIVE REGIME That you'd be far happier living under at this time?

    Let's look at what our founding fathers stated ..

    "states should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers. ... Between these two evils, when we must make a choice, there can be no hesitation.”

    When the abuses of Government become to heinous a burden to bear .. responsible Citizens have the right and ability to petition for peaceful separation .. and to rise up and Make their Choice .. against the oppressive Government as well ..

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  • Guru Casper BN-ZERO 2012/11/27 19:36:04
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    Give'm time tho'lol
    benedict arnold
    judas iscariot
  • MsDianna 2012/11/27 19:12:14
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    MsDianna
    +1
    throwing a fit and I'm one of them!
  • judge 2012/11/25 02:54:57
    I Like Honey Boo Boo
    judge
    That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.  it is their duty  to throw off such government
  • VoiceOfReason 2012/11/24 01:08:17
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    VoiceOfReason
    +1
    I think the people that are signing up for this are either a) stupid, b) ignorant, or c) both. They mostly are throwing a tantrum because their weak candidate didn't save them from the oppression and tyranny that we are currently experiencing. Oh yeah not seeing that... I suggest they go to Aisle 10 of Walmart and stock up on Tin Foil and maybe some baseball caps. They need every roll they can get their hands on.
  • charles nelson 2012/11/23 04:47:56
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    charles nelson
    +1
    More flatulent than petulant
  • Idiot repubs 2012/11/22 16:18:48
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    Idiot repubs
  • Kadia 2012/11/22 15:50:55
    All Of The Above
    Kadia
    +3
    All of the above.. Except the one about honey boo boo..
  • kitkat42 2012/11/22 10:06:43
    I Like Honey Boo Boo
    kitkat42
    +3
    She's a real child and doesn't want to secede like the other dim wits.
  • disclaimer 2012/11/22 07:03:41
  • OPen Minded 2012/11/21 19:15:20
    All Of The Above
    OPen Minded
    +1
    Not much room for disagreement in these answers, though...
  • Darnel 2012/11/21 02:45:39
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    Darnel
    +3
    And they need to get a grip.
  • Spizzzo BN-0 2012/11/20 07:38:49
    They Are Committing Treason Against The United States of America
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +4
    It is open rebellion against America--no question it is treason. They want their own country to replace America. How completely anti-American is that?
  • Che Gue... Spizzzo... 2012/11/20 11:32:05
  • phil white Spizzzo... 2012/11/23 02:42:26
    phil white
    The Dems have already replaced America...with milions of third world immigrants.
    The Dems couldn't get the votes they wanted from the posterity of the founders so they decided to replace the electorate.
    Remember "...to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and to our posterity."
    And now Americans are forced by the Fed gov to pay a fine or a tax, your pick, if they don't buy Obama care. Where's the liberty? Show me the liberty.
  • Che Gue... phil white 2012/11/23 03:30:11
    Che Guevara - Hero
    Do you have car insurance ?
  • phil white Che Gue... 2012/11/23 03:39:23
    phil white
    Yes but I don't have to by Fed law.
    "Those powers not granted to the federal government are reserved to the states or to the people."
    And it the state get's too uppity about it I'll use public transport or my scooter.
  • Che Gue... phil white 2012/11/23 03:45:10
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    Here's an idea.
    somalia funny
  • JoLost 2012/11/20 04:02:28
    All Of The Above
    JoLost
    +5
    Secession = Renouncing US citizenship and all it's Constitutional protections.

    Justice Scalia on Secession:

    "I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court," Scalia wrote. "To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede."

    Check out the full letter Scalia sent to Turkewitz's brother:


    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.co...


    http://www.businessinsider.co...
  • disclaimer JoLost 2012/11/22 07:07:45
    disclaimer
    +2
    And Scalia's one of the more conservative justices on the panel. Good for him.
  • phil white disclaimer 2012/11/23 03:45:41 (edited)
    phil white
    He's wrong. You don't pass the buck. Lincoln had newspaper editors jailed and threatened to arrest the chief justice.
    The issue of secession was left up in the air in the constituion. I think deliberately.
  • disclaimer phil white 2012/11/24 01:28:59
    disclaimer
    Except the Southern states were severely punished after the war for attempting to secede.
  • phil white JoLost 2012/11/23 03:43:28 (edited)
    phil white
    If secession was resolved by civil war why not resolve abortion on demand the same way?
    Come to think of it I it probably will be soon.
  • JoLost phil white 2012/11/23 04:27:11 (edited)
    JoLost
    The Federal-State 2 party, partisan electoral system is the modern "civil war".. and has already resolved on demand abortion, now widely available in most states..
  • phil white JoLost 2012/11/23 13:12:29 (edited)
    phil white
    The constitution formerly made slavery widely available in all states.
    Abortion, state homage to homosexual unions, off shoring jobs, importing cheap labor, the right to bear arms, trial by jury and the genocide of white's are issue that are going to be settled. Unfortunately it looks like it will be in a civil war and the partition of the U.S.
  • JoLost phil white 2012/11/24 03:05:29
    JoLost
    Formerly? No, the United States Constitution NEVER supported slavery. (But the Confederate constitution and bible did/does).

    And was only addressed in the United States Constitution (See Amendments 13 thru 15) after the Civil War when the division of the states lost and the Federal Government Won... Nullifying any prior right or contract to secession.

    The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution outlaws slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

    Pro choice = liberty, the 14th amendment does require that everyone be equally represented and protected by the laws. Whats wrong with that? Oh, would you really have the 1st & 2nd amendments abolished and have this country ruled by a church not of your choosing? Then move to a country that supports only your religion.

    genocide of white's? LOL Okay.... I dont subscribe to the tea party weekly, southern slave association monthly or Glenn Beck TV so you lost me there. The US, Europe, Canada, Germany, UK... All have MILLIONs upon millions of "Whites". So I dont see the "genocide" of the whites happening any time soon by force or by natural electives. As a matter of fact, my white gene is actively out there producing grandchildren. LOL.

    Oh, and good luck with trying to separate and overthrow the Unit...














    Formerly? No, the United States Constitution NEVER supported slavery. (But the Confederate constitution and bible did/does).

    And was only addressed in the United States Constitution (See Amendments 13 thru 15) after the Civil War when the division of the states lost and the Federal Government Won... Nullifying any prior right or contract to secession.

    The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution outlaws slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

    Pro choice = liberty, the 14th amendment does require that everyone be equally represented and protected by the laws. Whats wrong with that? Oh, would you really have the 1st & 2nd amendments abolished and have this country ruled by a church not of your choosing? Then move to a country that supports only your religion.

    genocide of white's? LOL Okay.... I dont subscribe to the tea party weekly, southern slave association monthly or Glenn Beck TV so you lost me there. The US, Europe, Canada, Germany, UK... All have MILLIONs upon millions of "Whites". So I dont see the "genocide" of the whites happening any time soon by force or by natural electives. As a matter of fact, my white gene is actively out there producing grandchildren. LOL.

    Oh, and good luck with trying to separate and overthrow the United States.

    I will continue to fully support the United States Constitution, its purpose and the governments role in enhancing, securing, promoting, defending and protecting that purpose.

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


    Again, the issue of secession was resolved with the conclusion of the Civil war. You might not agree.. But thats the fact.

    Go ahead. Publicly Renounce your US citizenship and pen your name to that official petition of and for the secession of your state on The Official White House website.



    US Constitution Link

    http://constitutionus.com/
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  • phil white JoLost 2012/11/24 03:28:20 (edited)
    phil white
    Cultural Marxist like Noel Ignatiev seem to think it will take about two centuries to blend whites out of existence. Only whites are targeted for elimination as mass alien immigration is not forced on non-white countries like Japan or Taiwan of Nigeria.

    Asia for Asians, Africa for African, white childrens countries for everyone.

    Marxist Jim Jones not only suppored blending races out of existence, eventually he decided to have his entire church committ "revolutionary suicide."
    Take every thing you hear from leftist with a spoonfull of salt.
    Don't let them talk you into supporting race suicide. Remember, leftist ideologues aren't that much different from Jim Jones.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Junior the Outer Space Musi... 2012/11/19 19:45:56
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    Junior the Outer Space Music Man
    +3
    I normally don't throw names around like this, but they're spoiled little brats who need a good whuppin'
  • phil white Junior ... 2012/11/23 03:48:01 (edited)
    phil white
    +1
    Cum on Yankee blue belly!
  • Sdsali 2012/11/19 16:51:12
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    Sdsali
    +1
    signing a petition is not treason, for God's sake.
  • Che Gue... Sdsali 2012/11/19 22:13:13
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +4
    God obviously wanted President Obama reelected.
  • phil white Che Gue... 2012/11/23 03:48:51 (edited)
    phil white
    God grants siners free will.
  • Che Gue... phil white 2012/11/23 04:03:54
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    Blasphemy much ?

    Dan 2:21 "It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding.

    Rom 13:1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
  • Spizzzo... Sdsali 2012/11/20 07:41:33
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +5
    So, signing a petition openly proclaiming your intent to destroy America is NOT treason? How?
  • phil white Spizzzo... 2012/11/23 03:52:51 (edited)
    phil white
    The Dems destroyed America. The couldn't win an election with the "posterity" of the founders so they replaced them with millions of illegals.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    Rigging the election by packing the electorate is treason to the constitution.
  • Che Gue... phil white 2012/11/23 04:01:58
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +2
    You should post your vomit in the UFO, Bigfoot, and Loch Ness Monster Section of SH with all the other RWNJ wackos. lol
    ufo bigfoot
  • JoLost Sdsali 2012/11/24 03:43:08
    JoLost
    +1
    No, I agree, signing a petition renouncing your United States Citizenship is not treason, but by doing so, you have no right to US Constitutional representation and protections, so article three of the Constitution is muted, You become and are just another illegal resident for the CCOA (Corrections Corporation of America) to eventually warehouse at the expense of the tax payer.

    Renunciation is the voluntary act of relinquishing one's citizenship or nationality. It is the opposite of naturalization whereby a person voluntarily acquires a citizenship, and distinct from denaturalization, where the loss of citizenship is forced by a state.
  • CielPhantomhive.BN-0 2012/11/19 16:25:00
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    CielPhantomhive.BN-0
    +2
    Seriously.
  • UnusualSuspect 2012/11/19 16:20:12
    They Are Petulant Children Throwing A Temper Tantrum
    UnusualSuspect
    +3
    Whiny, petulant children.

    And I'd say the same thing about liberals/progressives if Romney had won, too...
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/11/19 14:14:08
    All Of The Above
    Christopher Kirchen
    +1
    Rather NONE of the above. I love the country I grew up in, but this is no longer the country I grew up in.
  • Che Gue... Christo... 2012/11/19 22:14:10
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +2
    Where did you move to ?
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