I think time and money would be better spent finding ways to improve things in the world so that people would not feel coming here illegally was the best way to help themselves and their families.
Also, I see a lot of assumptions that illegals are all Mexican... I can't find decent recent numbers but Mexican illegals seem to make up about 60 percent of our illegal population. And their numbers are dropping according to recent studies.
Most people posting are simply sprewing uninformed platitudes and, worse, incentives to kill other human beings. Thank you for seeking out information grounded in knowledge and verilfiable fact, polkastria; we need far more Americans as lucid and mature as you.
I used to be driven by the usual bull but I had two things happen to me that changed my mind about the issue...
One was an illegal family I lived next door too back in Michigan.. One Parent came legally, the other didn't. They wanted their kids to have a better life. They both tried to come in legally and one made it but they couldn't afford the fees for the other. They were wonderful people and great parents and neighbors, I was sorry to move away.
The second was a really long talk I had with an immigration attorney here in Vegas just after I moved here.. we met at a anti war rally. We talked for a long time and she told me about the long waiting lists and the bribes and fees that so many Mexicans have to pay to get in legally and that many just can't afford it and I started thinking about that family so many years ago.. I really learned to understand what these people are up against when they want to follow the rules and how the system can feel more like a punishment to them.
I learned to understand and feel compassion. Not everyone has the chance to have those experiences, and some folks don't want them, but I feel I was lucky. I had my eyes opened.
Thank you, polkastria. I learned in Brazil that, although many of us Americans seem to be brought up to be narrow and prejudice, we were not hateful; we are just inexperienced and unaware. Fortunately, we do have a commpassionate streak in us. We must simply experience reality and embrace it.
Some of us cannot get past the tendency embedded in human nature to react to cognitive dissonance by angrily rejecting any verifiable fact or truth that challenges our treasured prejudiced, biases, and resentments.
They should be sent back if they are in the USA illegally.
If they want to return, get on the waiting list, get checked out for diseases like the Swine Flu, learn English, take the test and become a Proud Citizen of the USA.
WHAT THE H*LL?
THE TERM ILLEGAL SHOULD BE CHANGED IN THE DICTIONARY TO MEAN LEGAL OR IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR POLITICIANS TO CATER IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM TO ILLEGAL CITIZENS, AND IF THEY DO, POLITICIANS SHOULD BE TRIED IN COURT FOR TREASON.
Yes they should return home as it seems they want us to change "OUR COUNTRY" to please and acomidate them >> If They don't speak english stay in your own country , Or if you like sharia law go to a country that has it ,don't come here and what us to change >> Problems occure when they what to change our way of life < Go back to were you came from and change that country and stay the hell out of "OURS" >> IF YOU DON'T LIKE "OUR" COUNTRY THE WAY IT IS, " LEAVE " >> Vote wise in 2012
If you go out to the rural parts of the country they are hard workers. If you c them in cities they spend their money on mex flags, plates and do their houses up in crapppy paint jobs. Be proud of where you are or go home. They should all b deported until done legally..
No one ever said they weren't hard workers >> And how they live is ok as long as they leave thier bullsh-- ideas at home and learn the customs of this country and SPEAK ENGLISH >> STOP trying to change my country to what you think it should be if you don't like the way we live GO HOME and change your own country to what you want >> Take your Sharia laws and bend over and use them for TP >>. If you like that type of laws controling your life go some where ,where it is tolerated GO HOME ...
Such hateful comments. Living in a fantasy world filled with such hostility must be tough. What I read here, between the lines, is that you--as a white (you are a white, correct)--resent the challenge that you perceive to be occurring to the supremacy of the white social paradigm. To those of us born into this white paradigm, "normal" was white privilege; everyone else had to stay in his place. As a Judeo-Christian, I came to reject this paradigm.
As a speaker of fluent Spanish and Portuguese, a reader of Spanish-language periodicals that report the events occurring in Hispanic communities, a volunteer to teach English to non-English speaking adults, etc., I find your portrayal of recent immigrants to be based on biases passed on down to us from the days of hostility and hate targeting the Irish.
Please opt for reality. You are dealing with human beings. Don't demonize, them. If you are not of the Ayn Rand ilk, try living the love God extends to us all.
Ok WEll I belive that yeah they should. But not all immigrents are illegal so not everyone needs to get sent back .i mean if you think of it technically we are all immigrents. I mean the native Americans were here first.
RAVED, and that is MY FINAL ANSWER, so hate me..ILLEGALS are ILLEGALLY HERE that is why they are called ILLEGALS and they DO NOT HAVE TO BE JUST LATINO/MEXICAN, they are LATINO form the SOUTH, from AFRICA over the ocean, SOMALIA, they are from the MIDDLE EAST and EUROPE and so on...
WHY IS OBAMA JUST TARGETING THE ILLEGAL MEXICANS and LATINOS SOUTH OF THE BORDER to keep here and give them AMNESTY..who is the REAL RACIST and RACIALLY PROFILING...for illegal votes..
SOMALIANS are the SECOND LARGEST GROUP that are VOTING ILLEGALLY and they are ISLAMIC... I know, I live in MINNESOTA a SANCTUARY STATE, there is SO MUCH VOTER FRAUD by ILLEGALS and THE PROGRESSIVES....
I live in Chicago a sanctuary city and believe me, we never voted for this, it was just decided by a few city legislators. And now, like your state, anything goes for illegals here. I wonder how many more sanctuary cities/states are out there ? I'm going right now to check this out. Great comments !
People like you that just dont care are why we are in the position that we are in. Dont care, what do you care about if you dont care about your country and where it is going??? Spent my whole life in the military fighting for "I really dont care" and i am sick of it.
Also, I see a lot of assumptions that illegals are all Mexican... I can't find decent recent numbers but Mexican illegals seem to make up about 60 percent of our illegal population. And their numbers are dropping according to recent studies.
For total population of illegal immigrants 2000 through 2008 look here...
http://immigration.procon.org...
For current information on declining numbers of Mexican immigrants, legal and illegal, go here....
http://www.pewhispanic.org/20...
One was an illegal family I lived next door too back in Michigan.. One Parent came legally, the other didn't. They wanted their kids to have a better life. They both tried to come in legally and one made it but they couldn't afford the fees for the other. They were wonderful people and great parents and neighbors, I was sorry to move away.
The second was a really long talk I had with an immigration attorney here in Vegas just after I moved here.. we met at a anti war rally. We talked for a long time and she told me about the long waiting lists and the bribes and fees that so many Mexicans have to pay to get in legally and that many just can't afford it and I started thinking about that family so many years ago.. I really learned to understand what these people are up against when they want to follow the rules and how the system can feel more like a punishment to them.
I learned to understand and feel compassion. Not everyone has the chance to have those experiences, and some folks don't want them, but I feel I was lucky. I had my eyes opened.
Some of us cannot get past the tendency embedded in human nature to react to cognitive dissonance by angrily rejecting any verifiable fact or truth that challenges our treasured prejudiced, biases, and resentments.
They should be sent back if they are in the USA illegally.
If they want to return, get on the waiting list, get checked out for diseases like the Swine Flu, learn English, take the test and become a Proud Citizen of the USA.
WHAT THE H*LL?
THE TERM ILLEGAL SHOULD BE CHANGED IN THE DICTIONARY TO MEAN LEGAL OR IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR POLITICIANS TO CATER IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM TO ILLEGAL CITIZENS, AND IF THEY DO, POLITICIANS SHOULD BE TRIED IN COURT FOR TREASON.
but hey..
enjoy some more history
http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
Please opt for reality. You are dealing with human beings. Don't demonize, them. If you are not of the Ayn Rand ilk, try living the love God extends to us all.
WHY IS OBAMA JUST TARGETING THE ILLEGAL MEXICANS and LATINOS SOUTH OF THE BORDER to keep here and give them AMNESTY..who is the REAL RACIST and RACIALLY PROFILING...for illegal votes..
SOMALIANS are the SECOND LARGEST GROUP that are VOTING ILLEGALLY and they are ISLAMIC... I know, I live in MINNESOTA a SANCTUARY STATE, there is SO MUCH VOTER FRAUD by ILLEGALS and THE PROGRESSIVES....
by a few city legislators. And now, like your state, anything goes for illegals here. I wonder
how many more sanctuary cities/states are out there ? I'm going right now to check this out.
Great comments !
Wait in line. You aren't any better than anyone else.