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Rave if you think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined

Che Guevara - Hero 2012/07/15 04:50:03
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Rave if you think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined.

Hatred (or hate) is a deep and emotional extreme dislike, directed against a certain object or class of objects. The objects of such hatred can vary widely, from inanimate objects to attitudes, animals, oneself or other people, entire groups of people, people in general, existence, or the whole world. Though not necessarily, hatred is often associated with feelings of anger and disposition towards hostility against the objects of hatred. Hatred can drive oneself to extreme actions. Actions upon people or oneself after a lingering thought are not uncommon. Hatred can result in extreme behavior including violence,murder,and war.

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  • LindaM 2012/07/15 05:35:42
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    LindaM
    +23
    Oh my goodness, yes. Every political question is always sarcastic, hatefilled and biased, all directed at liberals. And they say they are Christians.. pfft...

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  • Giantfan Jane 2012/07/16 02:40:36
    Giantfan
    Really. Many of the rich worship their wealth. It means everything to them .God said not to worship false gods before Him. Money is a false god. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy but the problem lies with how one uses their wealth and the power that goes with it. When the rich were bragging about how much they gave in their Temple Jesus told them that the woman who gave 2 small coins gave more then they did because she gave everything she had even though the amount was much less than they gave.
  • Jane Giantfan 2012/07/16 23:03:49
    Jane
    +1
    These are things that man should know without being told by some religion.
  • Giantfan Jane 2012/07/17 04:58:38
    Giantfan
    Agree but people here haven't gotten the message. They judge us by how much or little money we have. All poor people are lazy and looking for a handout. All rich people are really hard workers. That's just plain stupid on their parts.
  • Jane Giantfan 2012/07/17 14:12:20
  • OneLastWord 2012/07/15 14:09:12 (edited)
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    OneLastWord
    +7
    NONE OF THE ABOVE, only chose on this HATE driven post by Soda Head.



    What group is next to be called haters?



    Let see, there's Jews, Muslin’s Conservative’s on and on?



    I guess if you’re not left, or a flaming liberal and/or atheist, you are just scum in Soda Head’s eyes.
  • Idiot r... OneLast... 2012/07/15 15:25:40
    Idiot repubs
    +2
    “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” Gandhi
  • Rusty Idiot r... 2012/07/15 17:14:26 (edited)
    Rusty
    +1
    Mother Teresa worked for the poor and the sick in India her entire adult life.........What country was it again that gandi lived in......??? People will SEE what they want to....it's one of our weaknesses.
  • Nuala a... OneLast... 2012/07/15 16:46:37
    Nuala a.k.a BlueRaven
    +2
    This post is hateful...
  • standard 2012/07/15 14:07:40
    All of the Above
    standard
    +8
    When someone such as yourself goes out of their way to call out another group of people. and then leave answers that require them to agree with you in order to comment, not only does it show that the true hatred is really coming from you not the group you hate, but it also shows a lack of personal self confidence and an abnormal mental condition requiring you to seek acceptance from people who have no bearing on your life.

    The fact that you come to the internet for acceptance and struggle to find it so much that you need to create conditions that simulate a false sense of acceptance (one sided answers) is a sign of a serious mental problem and an early warning sign pointing to suicidal tendencies. The fact that you are incapable of handling the reality that people are going to disagree with you and the fact that you are not always right, only goes to further this conclusion.

    Judging buy your screen name and the extreme nature of many of your posts it is clear that you have made it a point not to be accepted by society, most likely an uncontrollable effort to isolate yourself from reality as a reflection of your day to day interactions with real people.

    it sounds to me like the cons have pwned you.
  • Rusty standard 2012/07/15 17:20:56
    Rusty
    +1
    Excellent articulation of an astute observation. Perhaps one of the purposes of Soda Head is the expression of mental pathology for the purpose of diagnosis!!
  • Che Gue... standard 2012/07/15 21:30:56
  • rustex782 2012/07/15 14:05:30 (edited)
    All of the Above
    rustex782
    +3
    All they know how to say is LIBERAL Obama satanist communist Nazi regime of homosexual child molesting perverts who marry animals and want global domination with hell fire and sin and are ignorant blind bastards full of blind ignorance who follows Czars which promote Muslim terrorist and people from Kenya who are selling us down the socialistic river to the Chineeeeeeze!!!!!!!!!
  • Getting... rustex782 2012/07/15 14:10:36
    GettingBarried
    +2
    ...and you had to edit that?? LOL
  • rustex782 Getting... 2012/07/15 14:27:30
    rustex782
    +2
    i forgot and had left a few things out
  • Rusty rustex782 2012/07/15 17:22:26 (edited)
    Rusty
    Funny are you a comedian or just a party favor? I really did laugh.....
  • Fenabarb 2012/07/15 13:57:10
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    Fenabarb
    +6
    There has been studies done that shows conservative thinkers from anywhere are more inclined to be hateful and cruel towards anyone who doesn't agree with their (twisted) world view.
  • Rusty Fenabarb 2012/07/15 17:35:45 (edited)
    Rusty
    +2
    Joseph Goebbels published allot of research to inform the public in Germany of the 1930's. Is that where you got this research.......There is more to research than the conclusions.....that's why they call it peer reviewed......be careful what you accept as fact!! Did you know that the Nazi's murdered 12 million Christians (noncombatant dissenters).....an estimate and probably low.
    Hitler was a socialist......is that liberal or conservative in our country (I assume you are an American).
  • Che Gue... Rusty 2012/07/15 21:35:10
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    Wrong AGAIN, Hitler was not a Socialist

    Here are the major refutation points:

    1.

    The Nazis or National Socialists started in 1919 as a right wing, racist, militaristic working-class, lower-middle class organization. Hitler tells us in Mein Kampf that he picked the name in order to confuse members of the German Socialist, Marxist and Communist parties, or at least steal potential membership from them. At this time, the German Left was the most powerful left-wing force throughout Europe outside Russia. Throughout much of the Weimar Republic, the Left Wing was dominant and the Right wing was in retreat. The highly conservative, right wing and reactionary state, Bavaria, even became a Soviet Republic for a limited period of time in 1919.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2.

    The Nazis operated on the right-wing of the political spectrum. Hitler clearly admits this in numerous places in Mein Kampf. His earliest allies were members of the radical right wing German nationalist movement and also conservatives.

    Men such as Ludendorff, Von Pappen, Hindenburg and the like were all conservative and/or right-wing nationalists and/or monarchists. They all hated eachother on a personal level, as all politicians often do, but they shared a common goal: the elimination of socialism, the preserv...



















































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    Wrong AGAIN, Hitler was not a Socialist

    Here are the major refutation points:

    1.

    The Nazis or National Socialists started in 1919 as a right wing, racist, militaristic working-class, lower-middle class organization. Hitler tells us in Mein Kampf that he picked the name in order to confuse members of the German Socialist, Marxist and Communist parties, or at least steal potential membership from them. At this time, the German Left was the most powerful left-wing force throughout Europe outside Russia. Throughout much of the Weimar Republic, the Left Wing was dominant and the Right wing was in retreat. The highly conservative, right wing and reactionary state, Bavaria, even became a Soviet Republic for a limited period of time in 1919.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2.

    The Nazis operated on the right-wing of the political spectrum. Hitler clearly admits this in numerous places in Mein Kampf. His earliest allies were members of the radical right wing German nationalist movement and also conservatives.

    Men such as Ludendorff, Von Pappen, Hindenburg and the like were all conservative and/or right-wing nationalists and/or monarchists. They all hated eachother on a personal level, as all politicians often do, but they shared a common goal: the elimination of socialism, the preservation of Germany’s class system and the recreation of Germany’s militaristic culture and/or economy.

    In no way did the Nazi Party operate within, or come from, the liberal or Leftist political tradition in either Germany, or any other country for that matter. Nobody at the time would have thought so, either. Hitler was a rightwing extremist trying to “cross-over” and win members of the radical middle, as well as convert a sufficient minority of folks on the Left. This does not make him a Leftist.

    3.

    Just because the Nazis have some characteristics in common with Socialists, does not make them Socialists. This is the fallacy of association or the “fallacy of the undistributed middle.” Just because two things share a trait, does not make them the same. Camels eat lettuce. Rabbits eat lettuce. This does not mean that all camels are rabbits.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    http://www.theskepticsguide.o...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... (discusses the scientist who discovered the psychological mechanism whereby animals make illogical, emotional associations)

    Stalin was a Communist and liked law and order. Republicans in the US like law and order. Does this make Stalin a Republican? Clearly not, but this is the same logic conservatives are currently using.

    4.

    Industry and banking in Nazi Germany were privatized. They were not nationalized or placed into the collective ownership of workers’ groups. Lenin wrote that the first requirement of a Socialist economy is that the Commanding Heights of the economy must be taken out of private hands (he didn’t call for the abolition of private or consumer property, only that things like coal, forests, railroads, steel, food and strategic resources be controlled by either the people, the government or responsible third parties, rather than a self-interested Capitalist class that apportions said resources according to price/demand rather than need.

    Hitler’s promise to Germany’s top families, that they would retain private control of the economy, was the leading factor that caused them to back him, over his conservative, pro-sectarian, monarchist opponents, such as Von Pappen, Hindenburg and Ludendorff.

    5.

    Conservatives often point to the fact that Hitler granted German workers the May Day holiday that they had spent 100 years agitating for, thus proving the power and potency of his regime. What they fail to mention is that he abolished all labor unions on the following day, further proving the power and potency of his regime, as well as proving, once and for all, whose interests his regime ultimately served. Unlike the Communists, which were a totalitarian regime run from the bottom-up (i.e., by peasants who overthrew the government), the Nazi and Fascist governments were totalitarian regimes run from the top-down (i.e., by marketable members of the Establishment and/or their fellow-travelers who support the ancient regime, albeit in a different guise). An additional fact showing this trait is the fact that under Hitler, German workers lost their right to collectively bargain with industry, a right that they had won in certain German states and cities during the Weimar Republic.

    6.

    Hitler discarded the concept of class conflict between the Proletariat and Bourgeoisie and sublimated/replaced it, within Germany, with the concept of internal ethnic warfare of Indo-European Aryans against Jews and Gypsies and biological “war” against the incurably ill. Within Germany itself, economically-based class-consciousness was banned and 100 years of Marxist, socialist and Social-Democrat philosophical/ideological influence was discarded and oppressed.

    Rather than preach class, the Nazis preached the concept of Völksgemeinschaft, or “folk community,” where all the economic classes would be united in a single purpose and march to the beat of a single drummer, united in a single cause, namely, purity within and conquest without. This was basically an endorsement of a mass, sectarian, ritualistic, communitarian society, of the kind espoused by the Communists, but without the concomitant threat to the Wealthy and their class-interests.

    As such, the rich in Germany gave the nation a bait-and-switch if you will. They stole the thunder from the Socialists and Communists, granted them the most superficial and meaningless of their demands, but retained the fundamental essence of their social and economic system. With the advent of World War Two, he imposed this same construct upon occupied/friendly nations, in varying degrees depending upon the nature of the relationship. Many nations with rigid class systems, socio-economic tension, and majority-minority ethnic tension found this peculiar mix useful in their local environment. Nations that adopted this approach were Chile, Argentina, Iraq, South Africa, Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria.

    7.

    Hitler did have economic planning, as the Soviets did, but as we discussed above with the associative fallacy, this does not make him a socialist. Most nations from the 1920s up through the 1970s engaged in some form of economic planning, very few of which were or would have considered themselves, Socialist. President Eisenhower had massive economic planning and public works programs, such as the National Highway System. Yet Dwight D. Eisenhower, clearly, was not a Socialist.

    8.

    The writings of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky were banned. If Hitler was a socialist, then why ban and burn in bonfires, the leading proponents of such an economic/philosophical/political system?

    9.

    Racism and Antisemitism are the biggest taboos in Socialist theory. The idea, according to Marx and other socialists, was that the elite use racism and anti-Semitism to divide and distract the poor, such that they cannot effectively organize in the advancement of their own economic interests.

    For example, in Czarist Russia, there would often be famines. The peasants would revolt, and, armed with pitchforks would storm into the large palace/estate of the local nobleman (called a Boyar). The Boyar would often have vast stores of grain and food, enough to help the peasants. But he would not share. Instead, he would tell the Peasants that the local Jews or Gypsies ruined the harvest and that they are the reason why Russian babies are forced to starve in winter. Oftentimes, they would produce the Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion, a famous forgery created by the Czarist secret police, precisely for this reason.

    The peasants would then initiate and carry-out a violent, murderous pogrom in the local Jewish village, but to no avail. They would find no extra food. The crops of the Jewish farmers were similarly impacted by the bad harvest: they simply had a bad summer with insufficient rain.

    Rather than unite with their Jewish brothers and protest the local nobleman and ask for food, the Russian peasants succumbed to their hatred of the “other.” In so doing, they were easily manipulated by the nobility. At the end of the day, both the Russian Jews and the Russian peasants lose. The Boyar nobleman wins. This is why Socialism hated ethnic and religious intolerance. They saw it as the #1 impediment to effective working-class consciousness and working-class unity.

    10.

    Wealth Redistribution--> Socialists believe in a progressive income tax. The higher the tax bracket, the higher the portion of one’s income that is taxed. Not just income, but all forms of property, whether land, capital gains, etc. A disproportionate distribution of wealth translates into a disproportionate distribution of political power that corrupts and degrades the concept of democratic political equality inherent in the maxim: “One man-one vote.” Political rights are largely useless and ineffectual if one is too hungry, diseased, ignorant and exhausted to exercise said rights in a meaningful way. As such, economic justice, according to socialists, is a necessary prerequisite for meaningful and effectual, participatory democratic government.

    Hitler did not redistribute the wealth of the German aristocracy. This was part of the bargain from the outset of the Third Reich. Rather, he confiscated the wealth and property of a disliked minority within the Reich, namely, the Jews. It was with confiscated Jewish money and later, the looted money derived from conquest, that funded the Nazi social welfare apparatus.

    Kaiser Wilhelm II once told Hitler that Germany can’t pursue a policy of total war and total social welfare at the same time--that you can’t buy both guns and butter. Hermann Göring replied for his master and said that the Reich would, indeed, provide both guns and butter, and in vast quantities at that. What he didn’t mention was that German guns would be used to steal Jewish butter and that without the guns, nobody would be able to get any butter, because the wealthy elite in Germany weren’t willing to share it.

    Ergo, unlike in true socialism, where the wealth of the collective majority of the people is pooled into a general fund, through legal taxation and redistributed according to need (from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs), the Third Reich cheated, by stealing money from its Jewish citizens. Basically, the wealthy aristocracy of Germany sacraficed the lives and property of its wealthy Jewish brethren, in order to preserve its own inherited wealth and property. This was Leon Trotsky’s essential argument. http://marxists.org/archive/t...
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  • Fenabarb Rusty 2012/07/16 07:06:19
    Fenabarb
    yes you need to question a lot or research, that study on conservative thinking was well publicized and there was even a poll about it on sodahead.
    This is an interesting talk on TED;
    http://www.ted.com/talks/lang...
  • M. Aronson 2012/07/15 13:57:10
    All of the Above
    M. Aronson
    +6
    They seem not to have even the slightest idea about the philosophy and actions of Jesus. If they did, they could never in a million years say and/or write the kinds of judgmental, hateful, hate-filled, intolerant things that they do.
  • Christo... M. Aronson 2012/07/15 15:17:27
    Christopher Kirchen
    You do know that the truly "hateful" ones are trolling, don't you?
  • M. Aronson Christo... 2012/07/31 00:27:15
    M. Aronson
    You're probably right, Christopher. It's painful to think about it. If those same trolls took their energies and did some helpful volunteer work with it instead, so many people and/or homeless animals could be helped!
  • Christo... M. Aronson 2012/08/06 13:11:10
    Christopher Kirchen
    Yes. More often than not, the ones you see on here who are hateful are trolling; of course that depends on your definition of hateful too; if someone says that sex outside of marriage is a sin and you call that hateful because it's something you do. well, that's on you, because according to Christianity, sex outside of marriage IS a sin. As far as helping goes, I'm glad you put the animals second because humans come first.
  • RoseLyle M. Aronson 2012/07/22 22:40:37
    RoseLyle
    +1
    I am a Christian and I feel sorry for Christians who think they have to put down people who don't believe the way they think they should. They are not enjoying the love of God in their life, they make theirselves feel better when they say things to make themselves feel superior to others who do not have their belief system. They are the "Pharisees" that Jesus preached to and about.. we will always have them but that does not mean that there aren't any loving Christian's in the world. I have had some wonderful Christian friends that would give me their last dime, and have gone well beyond the call of duty.
  • M. Aronson RoseLyle 2012/07/31 00:30:01
    M. Aronson
    @RoseLyle: Nice comments, thanks! I am an atheist, but I believe in living mostly according to CHRIST's principles (not "Christian" as it's practiced by churches.) And I believe that Jesus would have cringed and moaned and wailed if he had seen what would be done in his name by churches and governments ever since his death.
  • GettingBarried 2012/07/15 13:35:06
    YES, I think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined
    GettingBarried
    +6
    I thought the face option was the funniest. If Conservative Christianity on Sodahead is Hate Defined, I'm guessing liberalism would be somewhere around malevolence defined. You'll note I removed the religious connotations by using lower case letters. I know how religion binds you lefties up into balls of malevolence so much that you create threads about Conservative Christianity and Hate.
  • Jane 2012/07/15 12:45:42
    YES, I think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined
    Jane
    +6
    Hatred and fear of people who are different.
  • Giantfan Jane 2012/07/15 14:19:50
    Giantfan
    +4
    Fear is the key word. Conservatives from the time of cavemen feared the unknown and what was different and out of their comfort zone. Something like a person who is afraid to leave their own home, they see danger everywhere.
  • Jane Giantfan 2012/07/15 17:45:35
    Jane
    +3
    I never related these problems with conservatives exclusively, I know a blazing liberal who has those problems. I think it is called social anxiety.
  • Giantfan Jane 2012/07/16 02:46:31 (edited)
    Giantfan
    Even a liberal may be conservative in some ways. I am. I'm very conservative with money issues. I'm not cheap but I won't spend more than I have if I can help it. It's scientificly reasoned that man was born with conservatism as it basic way of thought. They said liberalism was not natural but some men evolved into liberalism. I don't explain things well but if conservatism is a car than liberalism is the car with added air conditioning, stereo, anti lock breakes, navigational system ect.
  • Jane Giantfan 2012/07/16 23:03:05 (edited)
    Jane
    +1
    I never spend more than I have, well I did with my first home, but that was it and those were the days when I thought that was conservative, long before I came to learn that republicans were so called conservatives.
  • Giantfan Jane 2012/07/17 05:00:27
    Giantfan
    I try to stay within my means. That's all I can do. The real riches in life are family, friends, ones health and nature.
  • Rusty Giantfan 2012/07/15 17:57:16
    Rusty
    +1
    The thing we Conservatives are afraid of is that you faithful well intentioned....... Liberals will pull down America's pants and our enemies will shoot our asses off.....
  • Giantfan Rusty 2012/07/16 02:50:57
    Giantfan
    +1
    Sorry Rusty that sh*t don't fly. Our military and regular cemetaries are full of both conservative and liberals. Both love their country and died for it.
  • Kirby Rusty 2012/07/16 11:55:28
    Kirby
    That is a load of garbage right there! Until I came to realize NEITHER PARTY give a rats ass about any of us . I was a card carrying Democrat. Who joined the Navy at 18 and served for 10 yrs. I was friends with both libs and conservative when I was in which was the tail end of the Cold War and the start of the Persian Gulf. Politicains are who EVERYONE NEEDS TO FEAR! Because none of them looking out for our best interest. Follow the money is all one has to do!
  • Kirby 2012/07/15 12:42:42
  • Space I... Kirby 2012/07/15 13:44:40
    Space Invader
    +4
    great; an agnostic describing the Bible; sorta like a blind man describing a sunrise...
  • Kirby Space I... 2012/07/15 14:32:10
    Kirby
    +4
    Really, well they seem to have a better grasp of the what the bible says! Hell even the athesist do too! 90% of the so called christians on here don't have the first clue! But hey Faux News said it so it must be true!
  • Psyblade Kirby 2012/07/15 15:09:07
  • Kirby Psyblade 2012/07/15 16:42:30
    Kirby
    +3
    Yep that about covers it lol! My first anciet history class in college was what made the lasting impression on me. Way too many question and zero answer, or that made any sense....Faith is not something I am willing to waste my life on! Never felt church was the place to be. I always wanted to be somewhere else!

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