Rave if you think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined

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Rave if you think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined.

Hatred (or hate) is a deep and emotional extreme dislike, directed against a certain object or class of objects. The objects of such hatred can vary widely, from inanimate objects to attitudes, animals, oneself or other people, entire groups of people, people in general, existence, or the whole world. Though not necessarily, hatred is often associated with feelings of anger and disposition towards hostility against the objects of hatred. Hatred can drive oneself to extreme actions. Actions upon people or oneself after a lingering thought are not uncommon. Hatred can result in extreme behavior including violence,murder,and war.

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Linda 2012/07/15 05:35:42

All of the Above

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Oh my goodness, yes. Every political question is always sarcastic, hatefilled and biased, all directed at liberals. And they say they are Christians.. pfft...
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The Wrong Guy 2012/07/16 01:54:48

YES, I think Conservative Christianity on SodaHead is Hate Defined

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Obviously. The conservatives on this site are the sort of people folks think of when they think "stupid Americans".

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ComeOnNow to The Wro... 2012/07/16 02:17:24 (edited)

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yes, because broad generalizations bassed on a political ideology is not a sign of bigotry and hate. Hey pot, this is kettle, you are black.

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Giantfan to ComeOnNow 2012/07/16 03:18:19

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Like all people on welfare are lazy. How's that pot of yours doing?

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ComeOnNow to Giantfan 2012/07/16 11:30:38

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They sure as hell aren't go getters that are working and planning for their success. There are jobs out there and they simply are not working to get the necessary skills or taking the ones they are qualified for. Call that what you want.

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Getting... to ComeOnNow 2012/07/16 14:25:42

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Gotta almost feel sorry for lefties. I saw a great Stossel piece where he approached many jobless with signs looking for food and he offered them work. It was sad yet ironic that they came up with every excuse in the book not to work. One got the distinct impression that they simply didn't want to. It certainly does not represent all jobless but it showed how easy it is to find those more willing to do nothing then make their own way.

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Manuel to Getting... 2012/07/16 18:07:20

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so were was this?.....

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Getting... to Manuel 2012/07/16 18:52:51

Stossel has or had a spot on Fox. Im not sure if it's daily, weekly, whatever. I happened upon it a couple months ago. As to where Stossel did his thing, I imagine it would be near his workplace where ever that is.

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Manuel to Getting... 2012/07/16 19:02:08

and how does that affect yours or his life if people just don't want to work and just beg for a living?

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Getting... to Manuel 2012/07/16 20:30:20

Those that finesse the system would affect everyone. Finding random people is suggestive that there are others who likely do the same and receive a check from the government.

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Manuel to Getting... 2012/07/16 21:34:16

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you can't prove those people that Stossel talked to are liberals or illegals or even conservatives...or on any kind of Government assistance or receive any checks whatsoever...all they are ...are nomad beggars...and it's their freedom to be bums...and nobody is force to give them anything...I don't give people like that money either...but if they want a job...then that's different...

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Getting... to Manuel 2012/07/16 23:23:37

I never suggested any political affiliation with regard to jobless people. You're right, if people want to be bums, that is certainly up to them. If those same people complain about not working when they simply want to stay on the govt dole, it's a problem. My workplace was in a somewhat high profile area; that is to say lots of car and some foot traffic. We had people 'looking for a job' probably 2-3 times a week (a lot for us). More often than not they were interested in providing proof that they "looked" for a job in the form of a business card from our business rather than actually wanting to work.

It's also fairly commonplace for seasonal workers to try and collect unemployment benefits in the 'off season'. There's plenty of evidence of that but no regulatory body keeping track of such things.

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Manuel to Getting... 2012/07/17 16:05:47

first off you hinted at the left...and ...nobody can just get on government assistance just like that...and your talking about two completely difference circumstances...

Bum nomad beggars and people who abuse the welfare system.

Beggars are all over America and choose not to go to welfare or were rejected by welfare...These are usually American citizens who don't want to work...illegals come here to work...rarely would an illegal be begging for money...rarely...

And it takes a lot to get on welfare. Welfare doesn't support healthy fit males. Go into a welfare office and look at the people...there is no one there that looks like they belong on a Olympics team...it is mostly single mothers with kids...the only males for the most part are down syndrome males...or males that have been born with some birth defect or some medical proven illness etc...

Welfare doesn't support drug addicts or illegals. only a baby born here by illegals can get some benefits mostly food stamps and health care and then social services gets involved if the illegals can't stay if they should have to place the child with relatives that are citizens or other possibilities for the safety of the child......

and unemployment is a whole other matter...nobody can collect unemployment without the okay and proof of a...

first off you hinted at the left...and ...nobody can just get on government assistance just like that...and your talking about two completely difference circumstances...

Bum nomad beggars and people who abuse the welfare system.

Beggars are all over America and choose not to go to welfare or were rejected by welfare...These are usually American citizens who don't want to work...illegals come here to work...rarely would an illegal be begging for money...rarely...

And it takes a lot to get on welfare. Welfare doesn't support healthy fit males. Go into a welfare office and look at the people...there is no one there that looks like they belong on a Olympics team...it is mostly single mothers with kids...the only males for the most part are down syndrome males...or males that have been born with some birth defect or some medical proven illness etc...

Welfare doesn't support drug addicts or illegals. only a baby born here by illegals can get some benefits mostly food stamps and health care and then social services gets involved if the illegals can't stay if they should have to place the child with relatives that are citizens or other possibilities for the safety of the child......

and unemployment is a whole other matter...nobody can collect unemployment without the okay and proof of a layoff by the company that hired them and laid them off.

You cannot collect unemployment if you got fired or quit your job.

showing up at an unemployment office with a bunch of business cards as proof looking for work will get you no where in the unemployment office... Unemployment is only for workers that got laid off, or their company went out of business.
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LOU to Manuel 2012/07/17 00:33:31

The Stossel show was about the avaiblity of jobs and the lack of ambition of people to take those jobs. The second part of the show was about people who work for six months and get unemployment checks for six months of the year. It also went into the European unemployment system and compaired it to ours. There was never one mention of poloitics.

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Manuel to LOU 2012/07/17 16:06:50

okay

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LOU to Getting... 2012/07/17 00:29:54

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It was on Friday night a week ago and then again on last Sunday.

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LOU to Getting... 2012/07/17 00:29:18

I watched it too. Stossel never once asked one person what their political choice is. They could have been all conservatives or liberals.

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JohnT to ComeOnNow 2012/07/16 15:48:34

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I guess business must be lazy they get 90 billion a year in corporate welfare, well people only get 49 billion. So that must mean they are twice as lazy.

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ComeOnNow to JohnT 2012/07/16 17:32:51

I am in favor of either and using one horrible waste of spending to justify another is a really dumb argument. With that said, more than half our entire budget goes to entitlements, so your numbers are way off.

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/16 18:09:24

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half our entire budget goes to entitlements...to say this is way off ....off...

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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 01:11:23

Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security—along with other entitlements such as food stamps, unemployment, and housing assistance— make up 62 percent of all federal spending. In contrast, spending on foreign aid represents about 1.

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 16:14:36

Here's it is on a wheel...it's all broken down...it's what we pay into it and get out of it...notice the poverty level of spending...that's were your food stamps and housing assistance are on this wheel..unemployment would be in the Other mandatory part...

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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 17:00:35

That is precious, you missed education, food stamps, govt subsidized lunches, Medicare, Medicaid, social security (disability is the new welfare), those that get a check back at tax time, and on and on.

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 17:12:05

in your stupid head you think people can get all this easily today?....and many that did get any kind of government assistance met the requirements...and still many of those have moved on to better jobs and trades thanks to Government help... and education, govt subsidized lunches are considered other mandatory..Food Stamps are in the poverty section...and you can see medicare, Medicaid and SS have their space as well... or are you color blind?

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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 17:28:04

It is as easy as faking a soft tissue injury or panic attacks. I grew up in a poor neighborhood and try have it down to a science: they work hard to avoid work. Speaking of color blind, may I remind you of how this conversation went above.

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I guess business must be lazy they get 90 billion a year in corporate welfare, well people only get 49 billion. So that must mean they are twice as lazy.
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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 17:32:22

this is me and you...you give me B.S. and I show you how it really is...

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JohnT to ComeOnNow 2012/07/16 19:28:11

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I will get last years OMB layout for you, and DOD got 768 billion dollars which was more countries combined for Defense. We piss money away on other countries and war than could ever be spent at home on out own citizens yet folks are always worried that they are giving something away to feed or take care of our own. Someone needs to explain why it is permissible to have 45 million children in poverty, or 6 million seniors that cannot afford to buy groceries.

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ComeOnNow to JohnT 2012/07/17 01:15:34

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I am all for drastic cuts to the military. You trying to use one horrible waste of money to try to justify another is pathetic. Entitlements long term do far more harm than good. They do nothing to improve skill sets, encourage people to work to get ahead, or in any way actually help those to better themselves. They do nothing to help the kids, the community, the family, or the country. We need to expect able bodies people to take responsibility for themselves.

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JohnT to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 01:28:57 (edited)

Some of your points are valid, but to me there is no such thing as throw away people, especially if they are citizens and taxpayers of this country. You know and I know we just experienced one of the worst economical downturns since the great depression. Too many here with short attention spans thinks things should be healed in ten minutes. This administration has not done great, but they at least admitted it would not be solved quickly. I would love to see us cut foreign aid, and 1/4 of the defense budget. I retired from DOD and I saw 30 years of waste on everything from Helicopter and jet designs that did not work to the drones that originally cost 15 million a piece but would not work in the rain. So don't preach to the choir on able bodies when I have seen more pissed away on change of command ceremonies that a hand out to our citizens.
For some reason the majority of people in this country stay focused on their fellow man and what he doesn't do to earn his keep, focus on the leaders that have and always do create the problems and than shuffle their feet and cannot figure out what to do. It is all a bunch of lies the minute they open their mouths to speak.

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ComeOnNow to JohnT 2012/07/17 01:35:34

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We have the same goal, just different means of getting there. Welfare was massively abused where I grew up. I saw the intelligence, strong personalities, and talents wasted. Many would have been vastly successful but never tried. That helps nobody. Success is primarily based on mentality. I think pushing the entitlement mentality and the hopelessness that goes with it as sad. That is all I hear from most democrats as they blame the rich, blame whitey, blame employers, and in making all these excuses never encourage people to get off their asses and try.

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JohnT to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 01:46:10

Well stated, it is individual effort that reaches success, but speaking as a person who came from the projects and did fine, I also have empathy for those that have lost everything. Until we walk in others shoes we should at least give them the opportunity for getting ahead. California has cut welfare down to two years, no more four entitlements. but that won't solve squat unless jobs are there and the immigration situation is resolved, the only thing it does is raise crime in the poor areas as they rip each other off, and or kill innocent people for a couple of bucks. We have to do better even if it means instituting the military draft again. That will at least give some jobs to those that need stability.

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ComeOnNow to JohnT 2012/07/17 02:11:44

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I really think that we need to completely redo ur entitlement system. I am all for helping those to better themselves. Most charities that I partake in are geared towards that. I do not think that they should in any way promote sloth. I think we should have a temporary safety net for those that fall on temporary hard times, and then programs to help people like single mothers going back to school, and then maybe even for a while as they gain experience in and entry level job, because that is hard as well. But if someone is not willing to try to do anything to help themselves, we should give them nothing but the bare necessities and make them uncomfortabel enough to where they have motivation to at least try for something better.

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JohnT to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 04:31:38

It makes sense there are way too many generations of poor that have been brought up on the system and train each other on how to use the system, not all of course but some. With more states in the tank with either deficits or approaching them they have no choice but to put the money where it is needed and most of that is basic services and education.

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/16 18:05:52

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well you guys keep hiring illegals....and there are those on welfare that really do need it...welfare is not filled with millions of frauds on it dude...it is very hard to get on Welfare. You just don't go down and say " I want welfare so sign me up"....lol

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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 01:19:54

Let's enforce immigration laws and phase out entitlements. People will take the jobs. Actually, most welfare choose it as a lifestyle. They sure as hell aren't looking for jobs or improving their skill set to get off it are they? I grew up in a poor neighborhood and they just accept it as what people do. That is what they are taught for generations. The Obama administration is freaking advertising entitlements now like it is the thing to do. He wants people on the dole so he can control them.

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 16:37:35

immigration laws are enforced...if an illegal gets caught they are deported...what needs to be done is for Americans to stop giving them jobs...

And the majority of entitlements programs are not design to live off of for life..
The majority of people on entitlement programs are single mothers. And when their children become 18 they are terminated from the system.....you will not find people on welfare that look like they belong on an Olympic team... Drug addicts cannot be on entitlements. Illegals cannot be on entitlements. An illegal cannot come here and collect welfare...you need proof of citizenship and a valid reason along with lots of other hoop jumping info to even be considered for it...

And this is bogus right wing B.S. ...I grew up in a poor neighborhood and they just accept it as what people do. That is what they are taught for generations.

I grew up in a poor hood..and anybody that needed welfare was embarrassed to be on it...and those that did need it used it to get a head such as a better education or job skills for better jobs...

this mentality that the right wing think tanks came up with about generations staying on Welfare is bogus...I knew plenty of kids including yours truly who's parents were on some kind of welfare... but those kids including yours truly grew...

immigration laws are enforced...if an illegal gets caught they are deported...what needs to be done is for Americans to stop giving them jobs...

And the majority of entitlements programs are not design to live off of for life..
The majority of people on entitlement programs are single mothers. And when their children become 18 they are terminated from the system.....you will not find people on welfare that look like they belong on an Olympic team... Drug addicts cannot be on entitlements. Illegals cannot be on entitlements. An illegal cannot come here and collect welfare...you need proof of citizenship and a valid reason along with lots of other hoop jumping info to even be considered for it...

And this is bogus right wing B.S. ...I grew up in a poor neighborhood and they just accept it as what people do. That is what they are taught for generations.

I grew up in a poor hood..and anybody that needed welfare was embarrassed to be on it...and those that did need it used it to get a head such as a better education or job skills for better jobs...

this mentality that the right wing think tanks came up with about generations staying on Welfare is bogus...I knew plenty of kids including yours truly who's parents were on some kind of welfare... but those kids including yours truly grew up not even needing welfare because their (my)parents made sure they didn't waste what help they got from our government to help their kids get ahead and never need welfare...so stop all your lying right wing parrot repeating propaganda talk...
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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 17:03:04

Wow. Not one thing you said in that entire rant is true. You are clearly a left wing ignorant dunce

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 17:15:54

sorry to inform you...it is true...only brainwash lying parrot speaking repeats like you with no god forsaking proof thinks otherwise...

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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 17:38:45

You are not informIng anyone. You are nothing built a little democrat ball of misinformation. Let's start with your first point about immigration:

Fewer Illegal Immigrants Stopped for Traffic Violations Will Face Deportation
By JULIA PRESTON
Published: April 27, 2012
Fewer illegal immigrants stopped by police for minor traffic violations would be held for deportation under changes announced Friday to a federal fingerprinting program, Department of Homeland Security officials said.

I can keep going line by line showing that you are an uninformed idiot, but as a democrat, I am sure that you are blissful in your complete ignorance and would ignore it anyway

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Manuel to ComeOnNow 2012/07/17 17:44:37

I can go on as well...The government says if they are not Criminals they can work with them on staying...there are so many of them in our work forces all thanks to Reagan.. I TOO can keep going line by line showing that you are an uninformed idiot, as a FAVORED rightee in concept and thinking , I am sure that you are blissful in your complete ignorance and would ignore it anyway....

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ComeOnNow to Manuel 2012/07/17 20:04:39 (edited)

So, I prove you to be an idiot, you double down and make yoirself look dumber. I sure hope that you are maybe 13 years old, otherwise there is little hope.The article was in the NYT, said it was Obama, and you blame Reagan. Only 11 million have snuck in since then and Obama has basically stopped all enforcement, yet you still blame Reagan. What a maroon.

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