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RAVE! If You Have No Qualms With Romney's Taxes!

Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/08/02 19:53:31
RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
Bo rave. I am concerned about Romney's taxes and wealth!
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The ploy of the liberal left is to get
the minds of voters off of Obama's failed economic and domestic as well as
foreign policies by stirring up covetousness, jealousy and outright greed! In
other words,-"Don't look at me but the other guy"! And since the
majority of the media has grabbed an oar to paddle Obama’s boat (Titanic) they
are also doing all they can to facilitate the controversy,
mudslinging, innuendos and outright lies.



A thinking person would know that the IRS has been carefully
scrutinizing
this man’s taxes for years to make sure he is paying every nickel and dime that
the government is entitled to! But Marxist agenda is to make others jealous of those that built up their
wealth by hard work and innovative means which is in accordance with the
philosophy of the American dream and way. Meanwhile while they misdirect the populace’s attention
they use subvert means to increase the tax obligation of the masses by
direct taxation or hiding them in their social ‘improvement’ agenda programs.



Concurrently the media does not draw attention to the hypocrisy
of the administration! We have 36 Obama
aides owing $833,000 in back taxes
!



http://news.investors.com/article/599002/201201260818/obama-w...



“President Barack Obama has preached that all Americans
should pay their fair share in taxes, but a government report finds that tens
of thousands of federal employees - from staffers in Congress to those in federal agencies and even Obama's
executive office
- collectively owe the government billions in back taxes.



“Data from the Internal Revenue Service show that more than 279,000 federal employees and retirees 0wed $3.4 billion in back income taxes
as of Sept. 30, 2010”.



http://money.msn.com/tax-tips/post.aspx?post=ab789642-9f66-41...



As a citizen and voter aren’t you getting tired
of all the hypocrisy and feel that it is time to hold this current and all
future administrations accountable? Will you show the media
you are also tired of their hypocritical and biased reporting as
well? Do you believe in the old adage that to clean house you start at the top
and work your way down? Or will you run out and allow yourself to be riled up
as a member of a pack of rabid dogs chasing a false scent?



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  • heirsoftheking 2012/08/02 20:28:44
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    heirsoftheking
    +11
    I have a lot more things to worry about in my life than Mit Romney's taxes.

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  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/08/03 16:57:09
    Bo rave. I am concerned about Romney's taxes and wealth!
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Romney is going to have a big problem: the government of the Cayman Islands has decided to tax foreigners!!!
  • Al B Th... JCD aka... 2012/08/03 23:02:27
    Al B Thayer
    Won't make a pimple on his a...
  • Adakin ... JCD aka... 2012/08/04 00:12:26
    Adakin Valorem
    From what I've read, the Caymans have ALWAYS taxed foreigners that earn profits on their islands. On the other hand, taxing ASSETS that are simply parked in their banks provides far more benefits to their islands than if they suddenly started taxing assets and drive all those euros, dollars and yen to somewhere else.

    Its not in the Cayman's best interest to run their deep pocket depositors off to Singapore or to Chile or to whereever. Please explain why you think the Caymans would even consider doing something that would give them such a one time only short flash gain... at the risk of killing their long term relationships with their wealthy patrons? Please explain that...
  • JCD aka... Adakin ... 2012/08/06 20:34:16
    JCD aka "biz"
    Thank you.
    Actually, Premier Bush calls the new tax (paid by foreign workers) a "community enhancement fee".
  • Adakin ... JCD aka... 2012/08/06 22:25:05
    Adakin Valorem
    +1
    Sir, I have no idea what you are discussing. What does your reply have to do with the Cayman's taxing or not taxing assets on deposit in their country?

    Then again, you are the folks that just elected a socialist that has promised you the world while telling you that taxing "The Rich" will pay for it. With The Rich, packing up and leaving, "Hows that workin' out for ya?"
  • JCD aka... Adakin ... 2012/08/10 07:13:09
    JCD aka "biz"
    OK, wealthy people are leaving France, presumably before we bring back the guillotine, there's a poll here on SH showing that wealthy people are leaving China, I hear that wealthy people are leaving America beccause they hate Obama's "Communist" policies.
    Do all these wealthy parasites plan to end up in Somalia?
  • Adakin ... JCD aka... 2012/08/13 00:05:26
    Adakin Valorem
    "I hear that wealthy people are leaving America beccause they hate Obama's "Communist" policies"

    Is that what you "hear"? Can you provide citation for your claim? The data I see comes from the U.S. Census Bureau that shows

    With any luck, Obama will be moving back to Chicago next January. But Romney's tax proposals would maintain the same level of taxation on "the rich" who currently pay most of the tax bill

    "Do all these wealthy parasites plan to end up in Somalia?"

    In order to answer your question, you must first define your terms. What is a "wealthy parasite"? Does one become wealthy via parasitical tenencies? Or do they become wealthy by providing a good or service that people voluntarily choose to exchange their earnings for the service or product provided by the vendor who became wealthy by providing a good or service that is in demand by her clients and customers?

    Again, please define "wealthy parasite" and why government as an agent of plunder, should treat these productive citizens differently from the rest of the citizens?
  • JCD aka... Adakin ... 2012/08/13 09:46:02
    JCD aka "biz"
    I read that several times on SH, not a very reliable source. Same here in France, they claim that the rich are leaving because our new Socialist government has raised the top tax rate to 75% for those making more than one million a year.. Some wealthy people are actually moving to the UK or other places, not many. Good riddance, anyway.
  • Adakin ... JCD aka... 2012/08/13 13:55:55
    Adakin Valorem
    +1
    Biz, please define "wealthy parasite".

    I'm curious how one becomes "wealthy" by being a parasite as opposed to the only way I know of becoming wealthy, i.e. by providing goods or services to other who voluntarily choose to buy those services or products.

    I retired after starting a small auto parts supply business, selling repair parts to garages and auto service businesses. Over a 25 year period, I expanded the company to sell those products to customers that did repairs for themselves. I went from a borrowed $3000 in credit card debt to buy my initial inventory to a business with 24 employees and four locations in two cities. In our peak, we did over $12 million in gross sales volume when we sold out to a Fortune 500 company. I'm curious if my husband & I may fit your definition of "parasites" as we are comfortably retired.
  • JCD aka... Adakin ... 2012/08/13 17:33:38
    JCD aka "biz"
    Congratulations.
    You are clearly NOT "wealthy parasites". Both my sons have also created their own successful TV production companies.
    But many people who have inherited fortunes and refuse to contribute to the public good are parasites. Like the thousands of aristocrats we guillotined back in the 1790s.
  • Adakin ... JCD aka... 2012/08/13 17:53:32
    Adakin Valorem
    I don't know the stats for France, but I do know that in the U.S. those that inherited their fortunes are less than 15% of the "wealthy" class. Please see if you can find a copy (published in the 1990s with two more current editions) of the "Millionaire Next Door" by Dr. Tom Stanley and Wm. Danco. I frequently provide that book as gifts to young people graduating from high school or during their college years. The book is an excellent primer describing the differences between the "perception of wealth" versus the reality of wealth... at for those here here in the U.S.

    I fear that our current tax system is effectively "guillotining" our own productive class of citizens as they pack their bags and move from the high tax states (California, New Jersey, New York, Illinois, et-al) to low tax states (Texas, Florida, Tenn., Idaho and others). In addition, some are actually leaving the country for places like Chile, Singapore, Cayman Islands, and other low tax refuges. They still provide their goods and services to their customer base and pay taxes on the profits made on them, but paying multiple times on the same transaction requires some innovative relocation on the part of many of those in the ultra high income brackets.
  • JCD aka... Adakin ... 2012/08/13 21:39:31
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Thank you for your reply.
  • Flash,a... Adakin ... 2012/08/13 17:43:03
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +1
    It's called emulation. Being a fleet manager I know where your coming from. Kudos.
  • The Duke 2012/08/03 16:52:53
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    The Duke
    +5
    I am much less worried about any taxes Romney might propose than I am about the taxes I KNOW the Zer0-bama has enacted and wants to enact if he gets a second term (God forbid!).
  • RandyScott 2012/08/03 16:13:28
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    RandyScott
    +6
    Romney's taxes are just a way for the Democrats to continue playing the class warfare game to get elected.
  • Scalded... RandyScott 2012/08/03 17:55:13
    Scalded Eagle
    +2
    Right, the left will say anything to deflect from Obama's fail policy record. Like UnEmployment to 8.3%.
  • Groundskeeper Willy 2012/08/03 16:01:47
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    Groundskeeper Willy
    +7
    As Obozo attempts to deflect people off what he has done and is doing, I tell my friends family and colleagues to pay attention to more than the 30 seconds you hear in the lamestream press. A few have responded who voted out of white guilt in 08' have said, they made a mistake and won't again. They are now registered republicans from life long democrats.
  • Bud 2012/08/03 14:50:48
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    Bud
    +7
    Nothing more than a ploy by the left to foster class warfare. Obama has no positive record to run on therefore destruction of his opponent by inuendo is his only option. I would posit that if there were a hint of tax evasion in Romney's past the IRS would be all over it like maggots on a piece of rotten meat.

    Bud
  • LastRanger 2012/08/03 14:42:28
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    LastRanger
    +7
    So, I’m supposed to be more worried about what Romney did with his money than I am about what BHO is doing with MINE?
    Analyst, Ph.D.
  • Scalded... LastRanger 2012/08/03 17:56:55
    Scalded Eagle
    +1
    Bingo!!!
  • mark 1 2012/08/03 14:20:17
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    mark 1
    +3
    No Qualms
  • Mark P. 2012/08/03 14:17:53
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    Mark P.
    +6
    His taxes aren't gonna put anybody back to work. If there were a problem with his taxes the IRS would have caught it. Obama and comb over Axelrod don't want you thinking about the economy.
  • dave b 2012/08/03 14:15:35
    I have another opinion on this matter;-
    dave b
    +4
    We all know that this is just a Democrat effort to distract America from thinking about the horrible Obama administration with its scandals and taxpayer abuse and amnesty and the list goes on and on......
    The shameless Dems will use anything no matter how pathetic to try to make the other guy look worse that they do. An impossible task at this point!
  • Scalded... dave b 2012/08/03 17:57:46
    Scalded Eagle
    +1
    Indeed!
  • Tracie Richards 2012/08/03 14:15:07
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    Tracie Richards
    +3
    It's not just class warfare. There are liberals in this country with as much if not more money than Romney. Isn't Obama a millionaire too? Are we just not supposed to notice Pelosi's wealth, either? Maybe it only counts if it's Republican money.
  • Ron in ... Tracie ... 2012/08/03 19:45:20
    Ron in Oregon
    +1
    That is because her wealth is in American Samoa or someplace else in the South Pacific.
  • American Girl 2012/08/03 14:11:03
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    American Girl
    +5
    The only qualm I have is the distruction of this country by Obama.
  • Scalded... America... 2012/08/03 17:59:07
    Scalded Eagle
    +1
    Amen on that, AG.
  • SJG 2012/08/03 13:55:12
    Bo rave. I am concerned about Romney's taxes and wealth!
    SJG
    +1
    I don't understand why people aren't outraged at the fact that Romney and other multi-millionaires pay a smaller percentage of taxes than the other 99%? they don't want the Bush tax cuts stopped which allows the rich to get richer at the expense of the middle class. Where is the common sense?
  • LastRanger SJG 2012/08/03 14:40:04
    LastRanger
    +4
    Under Bush the lowest income earners received the highest percentage decrease in their taxes.
    I am outraged that 42% now pay NO income tax and in fact receive a payment for not doing so - - - fair; I don't think so.

    In 1979, the poorest 20% of earners paid no income tax. By 2007, that same group had a negative income tax rate of 6.8%. In other words, they took home 6.8% more than they paid in to the federal government. Middle income Americans paid an effective income tax rate (the amount paid after deductions) of 7.5% in 1979. That rate was cut to 3.3% in 2007, a drop of more than 50%.

    What about those dastardly one percenters? Back in the days of Jimmy Carter, Americans in the top one percent of earners paid an effective tax rate of 21.8%. The effective tax rate fell all the way to ... wait for it ... 19%.

    Even when taking into account all federal taxes, the poor and middle class have benefited more than their wealthy counterparts. In 1979, the total effective federal tax rate (including payroll taxes, excise, capital gains, estate, and corporate taxes) was 8% for the poorest Americans and 18.6% for middle income earners. Thanks to the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, those rates fell 50% and 23%, respectively. The top one percent of earners had their total effective tax rate fall 21% over the same time period.

    Analyst, Ph.D.

    By the way: The effective tax rate for middle income earners is 3.3% Romney paid 15% +
  • Flash,a... LastRanger 2012/08/03 14:53:44
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    Always luv the facts!
  • maggiemay 2012/08/03 13:48:07
    RAVE! I have no qualms about Romney's taxes or wealth!
    maggiemay
    +5
    There is no way that the IRS would have let this man get away with not paying his so called "fair share."
    obama forward
  • SJG maggiemay 2012/08/03 13:57:47
    SJG
    +1
    You are so delusional. He, and other millionaires have never paid their 'fair' share. They have more tax credits and tax shelters that you will ever have, assuming you are not a millionaire. His fair share is not equitable with your fair share because of the Bush tax cuts. It's not the IRS!!!!
  • Flash,a... SJG 2012/08/03 14:31:53
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +3
    "Fair" is when every citizen pays the same percentage. The Bush tax cuts were for every strata of tax payer.
  • maggiemay SJG 2012/08/03 17:29:22
    maggiemay
    +3
    Is that his fault!!! Blame the tax code, but you can't blame them for taking advantage of laws in the tax code. Anyone would even you!
  • lee maggiemay 2012/08/03 17:59:24
    lee
    so then lets see what our system calls "fair" for somone of his wealth...

    i bet it will not seem so "fair" to the rest of us, and thats why he doesn't want us to see them.
  • maggiemay lee 2012/08/03 18:04:17 (edited)
    maggiemay
    +1
    Anyone ever tell you that jealousy is not a very attractive trait.

    If you don't like what happens then fight to make the tax laws more "fair" Push for a flat tax! That way everyone pays their fair share including the ones who pay nothing!
    He has shown what the law requires. Why don't you ask Obama to show his records.
  • lee maggiemay 2012/08/03 18:24:29 (edited)
    lee
    its hard to know what to push for when the wealthy can hide behind accountants and loopholes.

    lets get it all out in the open and discuss it... how is that jealousy? Seems to me like you are just trying to keep ppl from asking questions.

    as for a flat tax, its already pretty well understood that a system like that is LESS fair than a graduated tax system... assuming the wealthy actually PAY what they are supposed to pay under that system and not "shelter" money somewhere so that it cant' be taxed.

    you sound like you want to defend the status quo and when pressed you will throw chaff like "flat tax" to detract.

    its not going to work.
  • maggiemay lee 2012/08/03 18:32:42
    maggiemay
    +2
    NO I want a flat tax! Nothing distracting about it. The Tax system is a nightmare, and needs to be fixed, and loop holes closed. I would think that would be what you would want also. Simplify the system, make it more understandable for everyone.
  • lee maggiemay 2012/08/03 18:53:15
    lee
    a graduated tax structure is simple enough, as long as there are not all the loopholes...

    a flat tax system is unfair to lower incomes because they can least afford it.

    when you have ONE family (the waltons) holding 40% of the wealth in America, something is wrong.

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