Rave if you believe that after Romney is elected he will ensure that the Canadian pipeline will be approved and he will encourage Oil drilling on Federal land and coastal waters

by Deputy Chief Posted 2012/10/21 09:47:18

Related Topics: Obama, Oil, Drilling, Ticket, Oil Drilling, Romney, Canadian, US, Land, Independence, Job, Jobs, Energy

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		Romney will be our ticket to energy independence
		Obama panders to the environmentalists
		Obama will change his stance on the Canadian pipeline
		Romney will approve the Canadian pipeline and this will create jobs as well as put us back on the road to energy independence
		All of the above
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	Romney will be our ticket to energy independence	52 votes	32%
	Obama panders to the environmentalists	3 votes	2%
	Obama will change his stance on the Canadian pipeline	2 votes	1%
	Romney will approve the Canadian pipeline and this will create jobs as well as put us back on the road to energy independence	49 votes	30%
	All of the above	24 votes	15%
	None of the above	31 votes	19%

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Conservative Citizen 2012/10/21 12:04:26

Romney will be our ticket to energy independence

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Mitt is keenly aware of America's dire energy needs,...his election will immediately start clearing the path of the obstructions that have kept us from being energy independant.

Most important of all,...we will have a president who wants to create jobs and not hold back the growth of our economy.

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Hawk 2012/10/26 15:22:11

Romney will be our ticket to energy independence

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That is just the beginning of our energy independence. Romney is an American who cares about this country.

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exhon2009 2012/10/22 23:39:37

Romney will be our ticket to energy independence

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The deceit from Obama on this subject is a perfect example of how he obfuscates issues. He tries to take credit for oil production being up but Romney correctly disabused him of that notion by pointing out it was IN SPITE of his policies, not BECAUSE OF his policies.

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M.J 2012/10/22 23:37:55

None of the above

romney wont be elected to begin with.

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John to M.J 2012/10/23 17:53:21

If Romney wins the democrts have said they would kill him. Some say they will kill him win ore lose. If Obama wins there will be a bloody revolution that the democrats will regret having ever heard Obama's name. Obama has built stockades and has purchased million of rounds of hollow point ammunition for hand guns. Guess what he expects??

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M.J to John 2012/10/24 00:15:57

conservatives said the same thing if obama got elected the first time.

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Hawk to M.J 2012/10/26 15:15:55

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Your stupidity is not cureable sorry. Look at his record, he`s done nothing to help our country is that so hard to understand??

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M.J to Hawk 2012/10/26 22:27:57

you obviously didint understand what i said, so let me spell it out, conservatives said they would kill obama if he got elected the first time.

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Deputy ... to M.J 2012/10/27 01:12:09

They did not, and obviously nothing has happened to Obama as a result!

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M.J to Deputy ... 2012/10/29 22:13:15

yes they did he still gets death threats.

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Hawk to M.J 2012/10/29 16:28:45

Sorry it seem`s you can`t spell.

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Andrew 2012/10/22 22:35:47

Romney will be our ticket to energy independence

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Yeah and not so much of the green people getting in America's way.

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fudge35 2012/10/22 21:40:44

None of the above

If the Flip flopper does get in, I wonder if the American people will put up with the fithy pollution, and toxic water we will have when he and the hate party deregulates all environmental regulations??? We will look like China, of course the minions love the commies.

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John to fudge35 2012/10/23 18:01:05

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Fudge brain, we will be in worse shape if that kommie Obama regime takes controll. China is a communist state and the people like you will be just like the coolies their. It's idiots like you who are too stupid to see through Obama's psycobabble and pie in the sky crap and will fall with that treasonous, murdering Stalinist.

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fudge35 to John 2012/10/25 22:40:08

BUT your God Mittwit loves China, and you stooges for the Plutocrats love the commies. After all they will work for a half dollar an hour, and even 12 to 14 hours a day under unsafe conditions. Now I'll bet your gang is having an orgasm just thinking about all the huge profits that your billionaire bosses are making with these 10 year old children. Also when you think about the American workers that lost their jobs to these kids you are sailing into right wing fantasy land!!!! What could be better then that, right????????

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sbtbill 2012/10/22 20:23:28

None of the above

If elected Romney will finish the Keystone pipeline allowing export of oil to China and higher US gas prices in the South and Middle America. He will allow the big oil companies to hoard leases reducing drilling in high risk areas.

He will cut regulation that will increase risk and possibly increase food prices and reduce revenues for the tourist industry along the gulf, should one of those risks occur.

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RhinoRT to sbtbill 2012/10/22 20:56:32

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sbtbill to RhinoRT 2012/10/22 21:42:26

Instead of calling me an old cuckoo clock, explain why the pipeline goes to export ports. It now stops in the middle west.

There are only so many drilling rigs, most of the on shore one are in use in the Dakotas where it is very profitable to drill. Why move?

So you don't think the gulf spill had an affect on food prices and tourism?

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RhinoRT to sbtbill 2012/10/23 00:44:57

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I didn't call you an old cuckoo clock it was meant to show you were just plain cuckoo. I tell you what when you stop driving, stop using plastic, stop taking the bus or how ever you get around. stop using denture adhesive, shampoo, refrigerators, toothpaste and about 6000 other things you probably use every day then you can pontificate about the evils of oil.

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sbtbill to RhinoRT 2012/10/23 18:43:07

When did I say oil was evil? I said the keystone pipe line was being built to allow export of oil to China. That oil should be kept in the US as it is now. It is refined in the midwest and sold there.

I will admit to believing oil has problems. However, it is an important part of the economy and necessary. I feel there are other better fuels like natural gas.

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RhinoRT to sbtbill 2012/10/23 20:14:04

I'm hearing that cuckoo sound again!...you just used your last two replies to me complaining about the keystone pipe line and drilling in the gulf

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Adakin Valorem 2012/10/22 20:15:33 (edited)

Romney will approve the Canadian pipeline and this will create jobs as well a...

Sure, he will allow the pipeline construction to proceed. Additionally, he will open up public lands and ocean coastlines to more exploration and drilling.

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Azrael-In GOD we trust 2012/10/22 19:44:58

Romney will be our ticket to energy independence

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Not just with the pipeline, but industry as well, will increase here providing much needed jobs for all Americans.
I believe sincerely that Romney will be our "shot in the arm" for our country to get healed and back on track. Reason being: Romney is a capitalistic.

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Rebel Yell 2012/10/22 18:34:26

None of the above

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The pipeline will lead to a refinery in Port Arthur Texas. The citizens there have asked repeatedly how that refuse will be handled. It will not just disappear. Surely , they have asked, that waste will not just be dumped into our Gulf of Mexico.

No answer.

Things are not always what they seem, especially on the receiving end.

Keystone XL will not lessen U.S. dependence on foreign oil, but transport Canadian oil to American refineries for export to overseas markets. By draining Midwestern refineries of cheap Canadian crude into export-oriented refineries in the Gulf Coast, Keystone XL will increase the cost of gas for Americans. Independent analysis of these figures found this would increase per-gallon prices by 20 cents/gallon in the Midwest. According to an independent analysis, U.S. farmers could see expenses rise to $15 billion or higher in if the pipeline goes through. At least $500 million of the added expense would come from the Canadian market manipulation.
A rupture in the Keystone XL pipeline could cause a BP style oil spill in America’s heartland, over the source of fresh drinking water for 2 million people. NASA’s top climate scientist says that fully developing the tar sands in Canada would mean “essentially game over” for the climate.

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Adakin ... to Rebel Yell 2012/10/22 19:58:36

"By draining Midwestern refineries of cheap Canadian crude into export-oriented refineries in the Gulf Coast, Keystone XL will increase the cost of gas for Americans."

Can you provide ANY data or links that support your claim? How can the most efficient and economical system of delivering a fluid cause the price to increase, especially for those in the same country as the pipe AND the refinery? The export beneficiaries are the ones that will have the burden of the ocean shipping costs...especially Asian nation which will simply increase their dependance upon the far more politically volitile middle eastern sources of oil.
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"A rupture in the Keystone XL pipeline could cause..." A ten minute leak while the low pressure alarm system detects the immediate drop in pressure due to the rupture. At that point, the system automatically sounds alarms and stops the pumps.

Compared to the BP spill, the rupture occurred in over a mile of ocean depth where no pumps or valves were in the line to stop it. Surely you can't be serious, RY.

Reb, can you provide ANY support for YOUR claim that a leak from an overland pipeline is as difficult to stop as a blowout oil well over a mile below the surface of the ocean where no check or shutoff valves are located?

The TAPS (Trans-Alas...

"By draining Midwestern refineries of cheap Canadian crude into export-oriented refineries in the Gulf Coast, Keystone XL will increase the cost of gas for Americans."

Can you provide ANY data or links that support your claim? How can the most efficient and economical system of delivering a fluid cause the price to increase, especially for those in the same country as the pipe AND the refinery? The export beneficiaries are the ones that will have the burden of the ocean shipping costs...especially Asian nation which will simply increase their dependance upon the far more politically volitile middle eastern sources of oil.
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"A rupture in the Keystone XL pipeline could cause..." A ten minute leak while the low pressure alarm system detects the immediate drop in pressure due to the rupture. At that point, the system automatically sounds alarms and stops the pumps.

Compared to the BP spill, the rupture occurred in over a mile of ocean depth where no pumps or valves were in the line to stop it. Surely you can't be serious, RY.

Reb, can you provide ANY support for YOUR claim that a leak from an overland pipeline is as difficult to stop as a blowout oil well over a mile below the surface of the ocean where no check or shutoff valves are located?

The TAPS (Trans-Alaska Pipeline System) has had numerous small leaks over its 35 year life and not one of them exceeded a couple of tanker trucks full of oil before the system automatically shuts down. And there are more caribou in ANWR today than there was before the TAPS was constructed. Besides, the BP spill dumped many many ocean tanker quantities of oil into the Gulf because there were no shut-off valves.

You really need to stop drinking the Bong Water, Reb!
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NASA's Top Climate scientists have a vested interest in obtaining federal funding for an agency that PresBarry has stopped funding. Anything they can do to placate the adminstration, telling them what they want to hear, will give them more funding. Follow the money, Pal.
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John to Rebel Yell 2012/10/23 18:09:14

Glad to see idiot comments like yours. Shows the world how stupid and uniformed democrats are. There are refineries through out the country that are clean and sucsessful. If you bone headed green brains ruled our country would be a wasteland.

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Live Free Or Die 2012/10/22 17:32:19

All of the above

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Romney will encourage ruining the farming industry, the world's bread basket, which is a huge economic entity, as we feed the world, and be happy to ruin fishing, shrimping and tourisms in all the waters and conservation lands. In the end, there'll be a heavy price to pay. But yup, that's Mitt Romney for you.

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vannuck 2012/10/22 17:02:42

None of the above

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Speaking as a Canadian....a creating a pipeline from Canada to the US will result it LESS jobs in both countries think about how many people are needed to manage a pipeline?

also lets put the sanairo in reverse if there was a pipeline going from the US to Canada how would the majority of you feel?

Hate me or Rave me I dont care

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Live Fr... to vannuck 2012/10/22 17:35:56

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These foolish Americans believe it will create more jobs (and it will create some), but at the loss of a lot more (farming, fishing, shrimping, tourism). Clean water will be very expensive, which will further decimate the economy long-term.

Thank you for being considerate enough to think of our land. You get a rave for that.

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nat75 2012/10/22 16:12:05

None of the above

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as a canadian if it doesnt lead to more canadian jobs or growth then i hope he doesnt

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Deputy ... to nat75 2012/10/22 16:25:06

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I can understand that you would want the best for YOUR country. I imagine it should create jobs and benefit Canada as well.

I still marvel at how many Canadians get involved and comment on American politics. Personally I am not interested in commenting on Canadian or any other country's political websites, if it does not affect the U.S. ;>)

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nat75 to Deputy ... 2012/10/22 23:57:11

um one this does affect canada. also as you know the us is a powerful country and your politics often does affect canada or other countries which is why we take an interest in it. who the future president will be can make a big difference to canada and others. crazy example, say if romney wins there is a war with iran, and if obama wins there isnt, this doesnt just affect the usa it affects many countries. (i hope this is an extreme example just giving one)

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Adakin ... to nat75 2012/10/22 20:02:15

Nat, the US and Canada have far more in common with regard to trade policies and commerce than your nation has with China (although China does play a major influence on your economy). But in the long haul, having a trading partner that can have access to a reasonably secure (politically) source of oil at a reasonable transport cost, would be in the best interest of both nations. China, historically, is not someone that either of us can depend on over the long run.

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nat75 to Adakin ... 2012/10/22 23:58:52

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that is all true, one reason i pay attention to us politics etc because we have a lot in common and often the usa affect our trade policies etc...

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mwg0735 2012/10/22 15:59:23
Bmr1970 2012/10/22 15:38:59

None of the above

Doesn't matter, too late. Neither Harper's government nor the FTC can stop CNOOC's purchase of Nexen, a company with 60% holdings in the Alberta oil sands and a few in the Gulf of Mexico. Canada has already delayed giving the green light to the deal for an extra month beyond the 45 day statutory review, and the FTC can't stop it without making a legitimate case for global oil market manipulation. Nexen would have jumped at dealing with a US enterprise but, well...
When gas is $8/gallon, not because of scarcity but because of the yuan/dollar exchange rate, you can thank Obama for queering the Keystone XL pipeline.

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John BNO 2012/10/22 15:14:47

None of the above

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Thank you for including many choices. You are probably right that if he is elected he will immediately open the Keystone pipeline all the way to New Orleans. That will enable Canada to start exporting more crude which is more profitable for Canada. Because there is more profit in the exported crude, I expect that less crude will be available to the US refineries in Tennessee and Kentucky for our local gas needs. Probable result will be higher gas prices, but we'll be good to our neighbors to the north.

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Adakin ... to John BNO 2012/10/22 20:04:45

Bill, from what I've read, with the advent of 'fracking' technology, the "old" oil fields in Ohio and western PA are enjoying a resurgence in oil drilling. That puts Kentucky's refineries in the ideal location to supply that region of the U.S.

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John BNO to Adakin ... 2012/10/23 14:57:28

Very true and a pretty good deal as long as the fracking is done in a responsible manner. History has not been good in the fracking industry. Then the issue will be that the tar sands oil is much more corrosive that regular crude and if the original pipelines are used anywhere in the US how will be protect our environment? That pipe line travels over the largest aquifer in the United States covering five states. It wouldn't take much of a leak to completely destroy it.

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Adakin ... to John BNO 2012/10/23 15:18:20

"History has not been good in the fracking industry"
Really? I'm not that familiary with the "history"... I thought it was a relatively recent method of extraction... can you provide links or support for your "not good" claim?
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"It wouldn't take much of a leak to completely destroy it"

So how much is "wouldn't take much"? The TAPS system has been in operation for over 30yrs with a handful of spills and leaks that never exceeded more than truck tanker full of oil from any one incident. Unlike the BP offshore event, most oil pipes have pressure monitor sensors that would immediately shut off pumps when a drop in pressure (indicating a leak or rupture) is detected. In addition, there is human monitoring 24/7. Can you provide evidence of just what constitutes 'wouldn't take much" to COMPLETELY destroy the water table?

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John BNO to Adakin ... 2012/10/24 19:58:58

There are sites like http://earthjustice.org/featu... where the accidents a obviously amplified, and then http://www.thedailybeast.com/... where the accidents are greatly minimized. I don't know the right answer. The gas industry has done some significant grandstanding in NY where I use to live but are reluctant to identify the chemicals that are used in the fracking process. I think that worries many people. You can see that most of the fracking accidents have occurred in western PA and NY.
As for how much of a spill is too much, I haven't the faintest idea. But when we talking about water to eight states, I'd like to be fairly certain that the system is safe. Here is a link to the Ogallala Aquifer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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