Rave If You Agree That The Tea Party's Auction Of An Assault Rifle Is A Slap In The Face Of Those Killed In Newtown, Connecticut, Demonstrating Even More Why We Need Gun Control Laws.
nerak611
2012/12/26 01:48:22
The Ashville, NC Tea Party group auctions off an assault rifle, days after the Mass shooting in Newton, Ct. It is the same type of gun that Adam Lanza used to massacre 20 children and six adults. The Ashville Tea Party Chairman, Jane Bilello, made this statement, "“We refuse to allow the Left and the Liberal mindset to once again hijack the conversation as they have and allow the political hacks to pass laws that continue to limit our inalienable right to protect ourselves and the most defenseless among us.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/20/tea-party-group-auction...
This same group staged a 'machine gun social' in October. Why is the tea party so adamant to keep control of their assault weapons?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/20/tea-party-group-auction...
This same group staged a 'machine gun social' in October. Why is the tea party so adamant to keep control of their assault weapons?
Read More: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/20/tea-party-gr...
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zbacku 2012/12/26 02:39:33Disagree





















Hope this clears up the insanity being spewed by those who haven't a clue.
The AR-15 was designed in 1957 at the behest of the U.S. Army, which asked Armalite to come up with a “high-velocity, full and semi auto fire, 20 shot magazine, 6lbs loaded, able to penetrate both sides of a standard Army helmet at 500 meters rifle. it was renamed the M16, in accordance with the Army Nomenclature System. “AR-15” came to refer to the rifle’s semi-automatic civilian equivalent. It is estimated that upward of 3.5 million AR-15-style rifles currently exist in the United States
Hunters themselves find the rifle controversial, with some arguing AR-15-style rifles empower sloppy, “spray and pray” hunters ...
The AR-15 was designed in 1957 at the behest of the U.S. Army, which asked Armalite to come up with a “high-velocity, full and semi auto fire, 20 shot magazine, 6lbs loaded, able to penetrate both sides of a standard Army helmet at 500 meters rifle. it was renamed the M16, in accordance with the Army Nomenclature System. “AR-15” came to refer to the rifle’s semi-automatic civilian equivalent. It is estimated that upward of 3.5 million AR-15-style rifles currently exist in the United States
Hunters themselves find the rifle controversial, with some arguing AR-15-style rifles empower sloppy, “spray and pray” hunters to waste ammunition. The official Bushmaster XM15 manual lists the maximum effective rate of fire at 45 rounds per minute.) A hunter does not need a semi-automatic rifle to hunt, if he does he sucks, and should go play video games. More men running around the bush all cammo'd up with assault vests and face paint with tricked out AR's. These are not hunters but wannabe weekend warriors.
In terms of repelling a home invasion—which is what most people mean when they talk about home defense—an AR-15-style rifle is probably less useful than a handgun. When you shoot it, it’ll over penetrate—sending bullets through the walls of your house and possibly into the walls of your neighbor’s house—unless you purchase the sort of ammunition that fragments on impact.
So what makes an assault weapon The presents of a flash suppressor or even the threads to screw one it to the barrel could be considered a military-style feature. Some models can have a barrel stepped to accept a grenade launcher which is another military style feature that could render it an assault weapon. A bayonet lug is a feature used to attach a bayonet and counts in the definition of an assault rifle. The pistol grip is another military style feature that is rarely left off in order to make this style of gun legal. And then, of course is the addition of the large capacity ammunition (30 and 100 round) clips and barrels, and wide availability of spare and aftermarket parts allows to customize the AR-15-style rifle for almost any purpose and budget.
Anybody with a brain and an ounce of common sense has to question the rhetoric advocates use to defend weapons like this. the AR 15 is easily modified and is very good at one thing: engaging the enemy at a rapid rate of fire. When Adam Lanza used this rifle to kill 26 people in a matter of minutes, he's committing a crime, but he isn't misusing the rifle. That is exactly what it was engineered to do.
Probably one of the biggest oppositions to banning the AR 15 is the greed and avarice of the manufacturers and dealers who make a lot of money off of this weapon as well as investing in the war features in the creation of videos that the NRA turns around and blames on creating the killers.
You haven't a clue what you are talking about. The AR-15 is the civilian model of the M-16 military rifle.
Again...LEGAL is the Key...
Any weapon can be Modified Against The Law...
You use to be able to get a Kit, converting a .45 to a .22LR, by changing out the Barrel and Trigger Housing...making it a Very Lethal weapon...Change the Ballrel and Trigger back to a .45 and no 22LR to be found..
Can you Guess what they were used for and By Who..???
Gawd they are Dense...
No one DOES have access, Not The General Public, except Criminals, who get them from others Illegal Sources...Like those Your Pres sent to Mexico to the Cartels...they have found a source for them now with the Gun Ban Talks...Gun Selling here
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/...
The Connecticut State Police released a statement on January 18th attempting to clarify the confusion generated by the inconsistent and irresponsible media reporting following the Sandy Hook elementary shooting in Newtown on December 14th.
The released list of weapons sets the record straight on an issue that has driven the blogosphere to increasingly speculative lengths: exactly which weapons were used in the shooting?
The weapons seized from the attacker Adam Lanza are as follows, according to the State Police:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun
Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)
The Bushmaster .223 (not .233) can be assumed to be a semi-automatic rifle, although variants in fully automatic have been made for military and police purchasers. It is a “lightweight, small-caliber semi-automatic rifle, with a light recoil and a variety of optional barrel lengths and targeting/aiming devices.”
The Bushmaster .223 would fall under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban legislation [Section 2(B)], since it has a detachable magazine (in this case, a 30-round magazine). The term “...
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/...
The Connecticut State Police released a statement on January 18th attempting to clarify the confusion generated by the inconsistent and irresponsible media reporting following the Sandy Hook elementary shooting in Newtown on December 14th.
The released list of weapons sets the record straight on an issue that has driven the blogosphere to increasingly speculative lengths: exactly which weapons were used in the shooting?
The weapons seized from the attacker Adam Lanza are as follows, according to the State Police:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun
Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)
The Bushmaster .223 (not .233) can be assumed to be a semi-automatic rifle, although variants in fully automatic have been made for military and police purchasers. It is a “lightweight, small-caliber semi-automatic rifle, with a light recoil and a variety of optional barrel lengths and targeting/aiming devices.”
The Bushmaster .223 would fall under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban legislation [Section 2(B)], since it has a detachable magazine (in this case, a 30-round magazine). The term “assault weapons” should be noted, since it appears to be politicized term used customarily to suit the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban legislation. The term is a redundancy, because there is no such thing as a “non-assault weapon.”
Nonetheless, numerous politicians have described so-called “military style” weapons using the term “assault weapon,” and various journalists have either picked up on the terms uncritically or used them to further the political agenda of gun regulation. “Assault weapon” is also difficult to distinguish from “assault rifle,” another vague term that has been used to describe fully automatic weapons or rifles with self-selective fire.
[Read "NBC Admitted: No ‘Assault Rifle’ Used in Newtown Shooting."]
The press release also clarifies that two handguns were used in the shooting, not four handguns, as NBC reported after ‘confirming’ the information with numerous federal and state officials on live television after the shooting. It is unclear whether or not NBC issued a retraction, although it was declared false by some journalists.
In addition, while there were a number of early reports that an “assault rifle” was used in the shooting, CNN ran an update that a shotgun was in the trunk of the car, and not a rifle. Although there apparently is no “Canta-12,” there is a Russian model that translates to “Saiga-12” (as a Russian speaker, I can confirm this).
The Connecticut State Police thus hopefully resolves the confusion that had been created by the media’s haste to politicize a crisis. May the controversy be laid to rest along with the tragic victims of the shooting.
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun
Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)
"As long as we have a military, we have to have weapons suitable for their job."
Well Big DUH!, I'm sure you were trying to make a point dufess, so would you mind letting the rest of us in on it.? Military weapons or modified civilian weapons that perform the same as a military weapon and high capacity clips or drums are not or should not be in the hands of the public but they are. They're being used to kill large numbers of other citizens. Are you really that slow, or were you intellectually stunted at birth? Something is really twisted in that brain of yours. If ignorance goes up to $40 a barrel, can I have drilling rights to your head?
So our government is doing what to get our boys and girls killed because they tie their hands HOW? I thought the Generals in the field made those decisions and being a war veteran myself, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING? Is this another Conservative conspiracy theory the right wing is throwing at the wall to see what sticks? So please, tell us how your privy to these facts, and while your at it, provide the facts that backs it up?
Always you loons engage your mouth before your brain can ever catch up. We have now gone from a discussion on guns, to you preten...
"As long as we have a military, we have to have weapons suitable for their job."
Well Big DUH!, I'm sure you were trying to make a point dufess, so would you mind letting the rest of us in on it.? Military weapons or modified civilian weapons that perform the same as a military weapon and high capacity clips or drums are not or should not be in the hands of the public but they are. They're being used to kill large numbers of other citizens. Are you really that slow, or were you intellectually stunted at birth? Something is really twisted in that brain of yours. If ignorance goes up to $40 a barrel, can I have drilling rights to your head?
So our government is doing what to get our boys and girls killed because they tie their hands HOW? I thought the Generals in the field made those decisions and being a war veteran myself, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING? Is this another Conservative conspiracy theory the right wing is throwing at the wall to see what sticks? So please, tell us how your privy to these facts, and while your at it, provide the facts that backs it up?
Always you loons engage your mouth before your brain can ever catch up. We have now gone from a discussion on guns, to you pretending to be an expert on the government and the military.
A study at University College London in the UK has found that conservatives’ brains have larger amygdalas than the brains of liberals. Amygdalas are responsible for fear and other “primitive” emotions. At the same time, conservatives’ brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.
Even the membership of the NRA, agrees with a background check for anybody to buy a gun. How does it violate your Second Amendment rights to ban weapons that were manufactured for war? Why must you have the right to get 30 40, and 100 round extended clips or drums for hunting or in-home protection. Why must we turn our country into a war zone. You can't turn on TV anymore without hearing another life has been taken with a gun.
What laws that are being proposed to ban military style weapons of war (AR15) and 30, 40, and 100 round extended clips and drums violate your Second amendment Rights? Where in the Second Amendment does it say that we can't regulate what kind of weapons citizens can buy? Where does it say in the Second Amendment we can't require background checks on anybody buying a gun to keep them out of the hands of terrorist, crooks, gangs, or mentally challenged people?
Based on the propose laws and bans, how are your Second Amendment rights being violated? You can still buy tons of different styles of hunting rifles, hand guns, and shotguns for in-home protection, as well as reasonable ammunition clips. Do you think the Second Amendment gives you the right to buy hand-grenades, shoulder to air missals, bazooka's, tanks, bombs, etc. The Founding F...
What laws that are being proposed to ban military style weapons of war (AR15) and 30, 40, and 100 round extended clips and drums violate your Second amendment Rights? Where in the Second Amendment does it say that we can't regulate what kind of weapons citizens can buy? Where does it say in the Second Amendment we can't require background checks on anybody buying a gun to keep them out of the hands of terrorist, crooks, gangs, or mentally challenged people?
Based on the propose laws and bans, how are your Second Amendment rights being violated? You can still buy tons of different styles of hunting rifles, hand guns, and shotguns for in-home protection, as well as reasonable ammunition clips. Do you think the Second Amendment gives you the right to buy hand-grenades, shoulder to air missals, bazooka's, tanks, bombs, etc. The Founding Fathers could never have imagined the firepower of today, or a well regulated militia we have today to provide for the security of a Free State.You are just reading into the Second Amendment something that was never intended by our Founding Fathers
You idiots are so damn paranoid you have taken a relatively simple Amendment to an irrational irrationality and extremism. Hitler said that categories were the greatest tool a leader (The NRA, and Gun Manufacturers) can use to control people and set them against each other. We should stop with this insanity and categorizing each other for all the misconceptions that are being used.
Your words...
The Availability is to the Military...
What I posted as your Comment, is Exactly what you Posted to Rod above...Your FIRST Post to Him...Your Words, Quoted for the entire Post to him...Might want to go back and look....
Nothing further, until called out on your Comment...
The Bushmaster .223 would fall under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban legislation [Section 2(B)], since it has a detachable magazine (in this case, a 30-round magazine). The term “assault weapons” should be noted, since it appears to be politicized term used customarily to suit the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban legislation. The term is a redundancy, because there is no such thing as a “non-assault weapon.”
Nonetheless, numerous politicians have described so-called “military style” weapons using the term “assault weapon,” and various journalists have either picked up on the terms uncritically or used them to further the political agenda of gun regulation. “Assault weapon” is also difficult to distinguish from “assault rifle,” another vague term that has been used to describe fully automatic weapons or rifles with self-selective fire."
Why do we need to know how a manufacturer develops a military weapon because by saying the words military weapon, it's a giveaway that it was not developed to hunt game for food or for in-home protection unless one were being attacked by a herd of elephants.
Look Neanderthal, you can keep playing this semantic game if you wish, but these Bushmaster rifles have been modified to function like a military weapon, because hunting rifles don't use 100 round magazine drums, because the intended purpose is to kill the deer, not to disintegrate it. These weapons have been modified when they come out of the manufacturing plant. Your claim that criminals find a way to Jury Rig weapons is supposed to prove WHAT Let's look at the premise of your making that claim? If criminals can Jury Rig any weapon, then it must be useless to try and to ban any modified Bushmaster type weapon that can be sold over the web or at gun shows.
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Why do we need to know how a manufacturer develops a military weapon because by saying the words military weapon, it's a giveaway that it was not developed to hunt game for food or for in-home protection unless one were being attacked by a herd of elephants.
Look Neanderthal, you can keep playing this semantic game if you wish, but these Bushmaster rifles have been modified to function like a military weapon, because hunting rifles don't use 100 round magazine drums, because the intended purpose is to kill the deer, not to disintegrate it. These weapons have been modified when they come out of the manufacturing plant. Your claim that criminals find a way to Jury Rig weapons is supposed to prove WHAT Let's look at the premise of your making that claim? If criminals can Jury Rig any weapon, then it must be useless to try and to ban any modified Bushmaster type weapon that can be sold over the web or at gun shows.
You people must be the mental midget of the world, or your just stupid enough to think the rest of us are buying in on your bullsh*t!
I have another news flash for you Bubba, the psychiatric professionals state that over 30% of our population has mental problems (road rage, domestic abuse, anger management problems, and those that go postal over losing a job, high degree of stress, bipolar, breakdowns, accidents, divorce, and financial problems) bad enough that they should get professional help. That is a lot of little time bombs walking around waiting to go off, and they can also get their hands on these guns. Do you people ever hear what your mouth says? You had better start using your brain for more than a filler for your skull, or you just might end up as the next statistic. And you do understand that all of these "STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS" in all the red states is a license to kill if someone looks at you wrong or appears to be the wrong ethnicity other than WHITE! Just scream I felt threatened.
One more time. You CANNOT readily get a 100 round drum for any semi auto weapon in the civilian market. The Liberal Moron in the Sandy Hook shooting PLANNED his attack. He wore ear plugs and black military style gear (like the Colorado theater shooter did) just like in ALL the violent shoot'em up video games he wasted his life playing. Don't ya think MAYBE, just maybe it could have been his environment and the influence of the violent games he played more then the weapons he chose? Then we should ask why his mother would have multiple 30 round clips and weapons in her house with an obviously disturbed child? Mental Health needs to be stressed more in this country as well as Moral Character. Banning gun or even confiscating guns will only mean those choosing to ki...
One more time. You CANNOT readily get a 100 round drum for any semi auto weapon in the civilian market. The Liberal Moron in the Sandy Hook shooting PLANNED his attack. He wore ear plugs and black military style gear (like the Colorado theater shooter did) just like in ALL the violent shoot'em up video games he wasted his life playing. Don't ya think MAYBE, just maybe it could have been his environment and the influence of the violent games he played more then the weapons he chose? Then we should ask why his mother would have multiple 30 round clips and weapons in her house with an obviously disturbed child? Mental Health needs to be stressed more in this country as well as Moral Character. Banning gun or even confiscating guns will only mean those choosing to kill will find another weapon. Much like they have in Australia where very strict gun control was instituted and proven a failure.
Samuel Adams:
“Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.”
John Adams:
“Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense.”
Thomas Jefferson:
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
I can take an AR 15, on semi, fire one round at a time from a 5-Round Clip, which is made, and it is a Legal Hunting Rifle..
Now who is the Half Wit...???
The Mind went a long time ago..Believes the LIB Spin on everything...