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  • Adakin ... Night 2012/06/21 18:15:46
    Adakin Valorem
    I will grant you that! If Obama is anything, he is a serious ideolog. He sincerely believes his advocacy of a centrally controlled economy where winners and losers are chosen by those far smarter than the rest of us that simply want to buy the best quality product at the lowest possible price. He believes that government should use its regulatory authority to put long standing industries out of business while promoting advocacies that require massive subsidy in order to remain viable...and once that subsidy is removed, entity that he advocates would not be able to survive in a truly free market where actual profits are needed to fuel the growth and development of their products.

    Yup, in Obama's ideal world, we are all the cattle and sheep on Obama's plantation, there only but to provide the labor and products for which the Plantation Massah can redistribute to the crony benefactors that help in moving us toward his dream. And whoa on to those who dare to try to escape the bonds of that plantation... because the PRODUCTIVE slaves will be punished via higher taxes imposed upon those that excel beyond that of the mundane. Because FAIRNESS is the priority...and not achievement.
  • GrandmaC Adakin ... 2012/06/25 17:44:34
    GrandmaC
    You are behond belief! Mentioning plantations, slaves, massah's, puts you
    right in the same basket as all the rest of the right wingdings who would like to
    go back to the 19th and 20th centuries. You are a racist and probably proud of it.
  • Adakin ... GrandmaC 2012/06/25 22:26:11 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    Grandma: "You are a racist and probably proud of it."

    Nope. Not hardly... I'm only a person that recognizes when someone is trying to impose the plantation paradigm upon ALL of us Americans regardless of race...

    As my statement clearly implied, WE would be the slaves on that plantation, and that under Obama's Plantation like rule, he would impose greater and greater degree of confiscation upon those slaves that are the most productive (don't you remember his constant "tax the rich" mantra?)

    Please look at my other posts where I advocate tax reform and the abolition of our current 'slave' tax system where the gov't effectively has a lien placed upon every dollar you will ever earn.

    Our gov't claims ownership of everything you make, everything you earn, and everything you can accrue... just like a slave on a 19th century plantation. And just like the plantation, the government allows you to KEEP only enough to keep you from trying to escape, this plantation. Just like the plantation slave, the gov't offers you housing subsidies, food subsidies, healthcare subsidies and education... but only the education THEY want your kid to learn... you will RARELY find a public school that teachs you how to OWN the plantation, but they ALL will teach how to be a good worker and how to...














    Grandma: "You are a racist and probably proud of it."

    Nope. Not hardly... I'm only a person that recognizes when someone is trying to impose the plantation paradigm upon ALL of us Americans regardless of race...

    As my statement clearly implied, WE would be the slaves on that plantation, and that under Obama's Plantation like rule, he would impose greater and greater degree of confiscation upon those slaves that are the most productive (don't you remember his constant "tax the rich" mantra?)

    Please look at my other posts where I advocate tax reform and the abolition of our current 'slave' tax system where the gov't effectively has a lien placed upon every dollar you will ever earn.

    Our gov't claims ownership of everything you make, everything you earn, and everything you can accrue... just like a slave on a 19th century plantation. And just like the plantation, the government allows you to KEEP only enough to keep you from trying to escape, this plantation. Just like the plantation slave, the gov't offers you housing subsidies, food subsidies, healthcare subsidies and education... but only the education THEY want your kid to learn... you will RARELY find a public school that teachs you how to OWN the plantation, but they ALL will teach how to be a good worker and how to get a "Job" working on someone elses plantation.

    Remember this...with an income tax, your money is SEIZED. every dime... before you see any of your earnings.

    With the FairTax bill you bring home your entire earnings and your tax money is voluntarily PAID when YOU CHOOSE to buy something.

    There are over SIX DOZEN bipartisan congresscritters cosponsoring the FairTax bill (HR-25/S-13) and that legislation does everything Obama SAYS he wants tax reform to do... but he, nor Romney, will support HR-25... because both are status quo advocates.

    == == ==
    BTW - I find it interesting that you DID NOT dispute the actual SUBSTANCE of my claim and analogy.

    You only commented on the knee jerk reaction to trigger words that were placed there to specifically get you to make your narrow minded statement without examining what was really being implied.

    Are you so shallow that you don't see the big picture? That you only respond to Pavlovian triggers and miss the concept being put forward? And how is that a "plantation" analogy is any different from Obama's concept of an ideal centrally planned economy?

    Please tell me how equally enslaving all people in his feudal universe is construed as "racist"?
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  • GrandmaC Adakin ... 2012/07/24 17:26:40
    GrandmaC
    After reading your reply, I not only think you are a racist - you are a plutocrat. Your kind want all the advantages of a government, like military and police protection, 2nd amendment protection, but don't want to pay for it. Let the plebes pay for it while the rich keep all they make, unless they decide they "want" something - like a politician or an election. You
    make me sick! What do you do about changing things? Vote in Republicans who can make your world better - forget about all the people you claim to be
    protecting. Keep the poor, poor, the rich, richer and who cares who dies because of your attitude.
  • Adakin ... GrandmaC 2012/07/24 19:00:10 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    Grandma said: "Your kind want all the advantages of a government, but don't want to pay for it."

    Granny, I guess you missed the part above where I said: "With the FairTax bill you bring home your entire earnings and your tax money is voluntarily PAID when YOU CHOOSE to buy something.'

    The FairTax is a bill currently in congress that would replace the existing tax code and generate exactly the same amount of revenue, dollar for dollar, that the current tax system raises. So how can you claim I don't want to pay for the gov't I get?

    What part of that did you not understand? What part of a lien against your lifetime of earnings... and beyond your lifetime...(the gov't STILL lays claim to ownership of whatever part of your estate it arbitrarily claims)... constitutes racism or plutocracy?

    Please explain how abolishing the slavery that is equally applied to all "working" Americans by is "racist"?

    Actually, if you check my posts and comments, you will see that I’ve been advocating Gary Johnson the Libertarian Party candidate (and not the GOP or DNC candidates).

    I'm the one that supports the FairTax that frees the slaves and allows individuals to choose when, where and how much tax they pay. With the current income tax, your money is SEIZED by the plantation massah. With...





    Grandma said: "Your kind want all the advantages of a government, but don't want to pay for it."

    Granny, I guess you missed the part above where I said: "With the FairTax bill you bring home your entire earnings and your tax money is voluntarily PAID when YOU CHOOSE to buy something.'

    The FairTax is a bill currently in congress that would replace the existing tax code and generate exactly the same amount of revenue, dollar for dollar, that the current tax system raises. So how can you claim I don't want to pay for the gov't I get?

    What part of that did you not understand? What part of a lien against your lifetime of earnings... and beyond your lifetime...(the gov't STILL lays claim to ownership of whatever part of your estate it arbitrarily claims)... constitutes racism or plutocracy?

    Please explain how abolishing the slavery that is equally applied to all "working" Americans by is "racist"?

    Actually, if you check my posts and comments, you will see that I’ve been advocating Gary Johnson the Libertarian Party candidate (and not the GOP or DNC candidates).

    I'm the one that supports the FairTax that frees the slaves and allows individuals to choose when, where and how much tax they pay. With the current income tax, your money is SEIZED by the plantation massah. With the FairTax, your money is PAID to the gov’t and the massah no longer has any say in the matter.

    You, me, "the Rich" and everyone else pays exactly the same tax on that gallon of $3 milk, or that loaf of bread, or that Big Mac and Fries. The rich pay exactly what you and I pay, when we all buy the same product at the same retail price. But the "Rich" pay the tax when that Rolls Royce, that yacht and that Lear Jet is purchased, and I don't think you and I would be making THAT voluntary purchase, but then that's not for me to decide what YOU purchase... which is the beauty of the FairTax. You are free to choose to pay taxes by knowing what the tax is on every purchase BEFORE you make that purchase.

    Again, please tell me how that is racist? Or how the Rich would pay less than you or me for that gallon of milk?

    As Ricky would say..."Splain it to me Lucy"
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  • kitkat42 2012/06/20 22:32:48
    HARD RAVE
    kitkat42
    +3
    I'm sure he will.
  • Waldorf 2012/06/20 22:30:06
    NO RAVE
    Waldorf
    +5
    Debates don't have teleprompters.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/06/20 22:28:40
    NO RAVE
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +3
    They would both look like idiots. Neither has any productive ideas of how to solve the economic problems, Obama just concentrates on healthcare, and Romney just cares about the Rich... Ron Paul ftw.
  • snipe 2012/06/20 22:27:09
    NO RAVE
    snipe
    +6
    Depends on who the Moderators are and what they ask. If they avoid asking obama questions about the Economy and Jobs, which they'll try their damndest to do, obama will have an easy time of it. But, that would be a mistake since that's the topic most viewers would be most interested in.
  • Son Of ... snipe 2012/06/20 23:37:14
    Son Of Anubis™
    +4
    Yeah well they'll get their Left leaning buddies from any of the networks it will work in Barry's favour....most likely Wolf or King from CNN ....but we'll see
  • JCD aka... Son Of ... 2012/06/23 16:40:06
    JCD aka "biz"
    Commander in Chief vs. Outsourcer in Chief?
  • apachehellfire65 2012/06/20 22:19:44
    NO RAVE
    apachehellfire65
    +6
    i think your in for a big disappointment.
  • The Gipper~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/20 22:08:08
    NO RAVE
    The Gipper~PWCM~JLA
    +9
    The only chance obama has is if his teleprompter can outwit Romney!
  • GrandmaC The Gip... 2012/06/20 22:40:09
    GrandmaC
    +1
    lololololololololololol Can't stop laughing at that stupid comment! Romney outwit President Obama...........................
  • Son Of ... GrandmaC 2012/06/20 23:39:00
    Son Of Anubis™
    +4
    Barry's lost without his teleprompter....Teleprompeter Tinkerbell can't think for himself
  • snipe GrandmaC 2012/06/21 00:01:45
    snipe
    +2
    Grandma needs new glasses!
  • Obama F... snipe 2012/06/21 01:25:47 (edited)
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +1
    Lol, on the new Pic, love it!
  • snipe Obama F... 2012/06/21 02:48:46
    snipe
    +1
    I thought it fit the occasion! Lol!
  • GrandmaC snipe 2012/06/25 17:27:42
    GrandmaC
    Nope, my glasses are just fine. And, I read a lot. I look for the truth in statements made by all politicians. Not much there on either side, but that's our fault. We don't hold our politicians to the truth. Now - to the point - WHAT is Romney's plan for this country? More tax relief for the rich, get rid of all regulations, overturn Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, any help for the underprivileged and disabled. That's called
    a Plutocracy where the rich have it all and the rest of us can take their leavings - if
    there are any. Most middle class and poor Republicans vote against their best
    interests. Don't you have any pride? Wouldn't you like to see all people able to
    make a living for their families? WHAT has the Republican party ever done for you?
  • snipe GrandmaC 2012/06/25 17:33:08
    snipe
    I was talking about your reply to the gipper. I think you need to reread his comment and your reply. Now, clean those glasses first!
  • The Gip... GrandmaC 2012/06/21 05:03:41
    The Gipper~PWCM~JLA
    Easy granny! Might want to check those various med labels for possible adverse drug interactions...
  • freethinker 2012/06/20 21:40:05
    NO RAVE
    freethinker
    +8
    In your delusional dreams! The Liar in chief won't have his teleprompter!
  • Wahvlvke freethi... 2012/06/20 22:51:43
    Wahvlvke
    +4
    He can't use a urinal without a teleprompter.
  • GrandmaC freethi... 2012/06/25 17:29:12
    GrandmaC
    What is Romney's Plan? What will he do for the American people who are not rich?
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/06/20 21:38:01
    FAIR RAVE
    JCD aka "biz"
    +5
    Which Romney? The Earl of Romneycare? The Viscount of Bain Capital? The Archduke of Fliflopistan?
  • bob 2012/06/20 21:31:50
    HARD RAVE
    bob
    +5
    Sure shooting Romney does not stand for anything other than Romney. Let's see him flip and flop
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  • Night (▪‿▪)Do... 2012/06/20 22:34:14
    Night
    +2
    Totally not photo shopped. XD.
  • Son Of Anubis™ 2012/06/20 21:27:24
    NO RAVE
    Son Of Anubis™
    +10
    Teleprompter Tinkerbell....I wonder how he will do when he's not being told what to say unless of course they allow earpieces...then the words coming out of his mouth won't be his own.
  • UGH...L... Son Of ... 2012/06/24 14:48:24
  • Son Of ... UGH...L... 2012/06/24 21:26:17
    Son Of Anubis™
    +1
    Exactly...awesome!
  • Steve 2012/06/20 21:23:33
    HARD RAVE
    Steve
    +8
    Romney's strategy to win votes is to take no controversial stances, preferably no stances at all. He gives very few intervies and fudges constantly on questions about immigration, equal pay for equal work, personhood amendments, and lots more.

    The more people learn about Romney, the less they like him.
  • Rebel Yell Steve 2012/06/20 21:37:58
    Rebel Yell
    +5
    You just nailed him. In ' 94, he revealed what he was all about and got nailed !! Now, he is nothing more than a fence walker with no plan whatsover other than the Paul Ryan plan.... which is to gut Medicare and SS, and cut any funds for education, infrastructure,veterans ,etc, Why would he do such a thing? Mitt has promised 5 trillion in cuts for his wealthy pals.... so he has TWO choices, raise revenue ( Grover Norquist would piss his pants) or pile it on the middle class.

    Yet the mouthbreathers believe the garbage coming out of this snake oil salesman's mouth. They are so clueless about this man's motives. Even sleazy Gingrich and Gov. Oops knew what he is about. So does Ron Paul who refuses to endorse him
  • Wahvlvke Rebel Yell 2012/06/20 22:54:38 (edited)
    Wahvlvke
    +4
    What about the garbage coming out of obies mouth? Change your moniker ... you are a disgrace to all Rebels.
  • Rebel Yell Wahvlvke 2012/06/20 23:46:53
    Rebel Yell
    +1
    Awwww.... touched a nerve there, and all you can conjure up is a lame insult.

    Yep... you are a Republican. No substance but plenty of " spew".

    Thanks for the grins.
  • Obama F... Rebel Yell 2012/06/21 01:33:40
  • Wahvlvke Rebel Yell 2012/06/21 12:31:41
    Wahvlvke
    +1
    Typical libertard ... dodging the question.
  • Raymond Allamby 2012/06/20 21:23:06
    HARD RAVE
    Raymond Allamby
    +8
    i'd love to see a shell shocked mittens start babbling, "but the trees are just the right height in michigan."
  • just me 2012/06/20 21:20:04
    FAIR RAVE
    just me
    +2
    I think the real test will be the debates. Both men better come forth with some specifics by then.
  • DFA 2012/06/20 21:14:38
    HARD RAVE
    DFA
    +11
    Obama is a better speaker at the debates. And no... there isn't a teleprompter at the debates, ya jerks.

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