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PUBLIC OPINION > Welfare Recipients Should Take Drug Tests

SodaHead News 2012/04/23 23:00:00
Georgia recently became the third state to require drug testing for welfare recipients. Michigan passed a similar law, but it was ruled unconstitutional in 2003. Florida also passed a law, but federal lawsuits are holding it up in court. Opponent organizations like the ACLU are already threatening to take action against Georgia's law, set to go into effect on July 1, but we wanted to know how the public feels about it.

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Despite legal complications in the past, the vast majority of voters are fine with the drug tests. In fact, they think it's a good idea. It's easy to read the law as an attack on benefits in general, but most people agree it's a fair measure that private employers use all the time. The Top Opinion wrote, "I have to take random tests to receive my paycheck. Why can't welfare recipients do the same to get their paycheck?"

Leniency From the Left

Progressives and liberals were two of the only demographics to side against the measure. It might seem odd that government intervention would be embraced by the right and rejected by the left, but welfare is already a relatively liberal concept, and some see the test as a way of scaling back government aid. Plus, liberal note that welfare can be issued in the form of food stamps. However, moderates mostly sided with conservatives on this one.

No Complaints From the Unemployed

Surprisingly enough, unemployed voters agreed with the majority -- 77% of them think welfare applicants should be tested for drug use. Granted, it would only affect unemployed people who also do drugs, but it was an interesting statistic nonetheless. Part-time workers seemed a lot more concerned about it. Maybe because they aren't job hunting...

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Obviously, we can't ask users if they do drugs. The closest thing we can come to is inquiring about legal substance use -- smokers and drinkers, in particular. Maybe they're a little more likely to empathize with addiction. But here, too, the vote was overwhelmingly in favor of Georgia's laws. It's not looking good for drug addicts on welfare.

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  • lonewolf 2012/04/23 23:48:27
    lonewolf
    +14
    yes they should. people have to be drug tested to get a job and some have random drug test to keep a job. i know some people need welfare and i have no problem with that. but you have those that are just to damn lazy to work and that's the problem.

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  • conservyT 2012/04/24 17:51:47
  • broskyk 2012/04/24 16:55:07
    broskyk
    +4
    If I have to pass drug tests to have a job that pays for the welfare these parasites depend on then they should at least have to undergo drug tests to get it! I don't want to hear about their rights. What about mine? You give up certain rights when you sign up for welfare!
  • Foxhoun... broskyk 2012/04/24 17:32:06
    Foxhound BN0
    +2
    yeah what about your rights? should you have to take drug tests?
  • Bulanov... broskyk 2012/04/25 16:16:24
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    I allllmost raved you but that last line I just vehemently disagree with. Pro-TSA supporters say the same thing, "You give up certain [Constitutional] rights when you choose to fly!" In your case regarding drug testing, someone could also say, "You give up some of your rights when you choose to take a job." Everything else you said I'm in 100% agreement with though.
  • bboy 2012/04/24 16:53:21
    bboy
    +4
    Is it Americans are to lazy to work or are Americans to greedy to pay a livable wage nobodies getting off there ass unless it's worthwhile. Heck the compensation from CEO's of failed corporations would probably fund welfar for ten years!
  • Bulanova (Team Hargitay) 2012/04/24 16:48:23
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    +4
    Where is the ACLU on jobs that require drug tests? Either it's a civil rights violation or it's not.
  • bboy 2012/04/24 16:42:18
    bboy
    +3
    Yep I agree with the spend millions to save thousands is really friggin ignorant. Somebody should poll to see how much $ most people think welfare recipients get cuz it ain't much plus you only get it if you've worked and made a certain amount of money. And keep this in mind there's lots of countries with no economic safety net for there citizens like Mexico and middle eastern and African countries and look how wonderful they are...that's
  • VickiLFlint 2012/04/24 16:35:22
    VickiLFlint
    +3
    Yes they should impose weigh in restrictions too anyone considered obese isn't hungry
  • taitaFa... VickiLF... 2012/04/24 18:04:41
    taitaFalcon23
    +1
    that is a myth; in order to lose weight you have to eat - dieting and/or skipping meals is the guaranteed way to gain weight.
  • hippietim taitaFa... 2012/04/24 23:55:13
    hippietim
    pfft, I hardly gain weight when I do eat, so sure as hell I'll not gain by skipping meals!

    Timothy

    :o)
  • taitaFa... hippietim 2012/04/25 17:01:16
    taitaFalcon23
    good for you; some people don't have that experience. I gain weight just by sniffing bakery products.. and I exercise alot (4-5 days of intense bicycle riding over 100+ miles per week). Bottom line, there are as many weight management methods are there are people, but the main principles remain the same. Exercise more than you don't; put down the carbs unless you use them; use protein to build 'levers' (muscles not to lose weight0; get your heart rate to 130 bpm 3-5 days a week for a minimum of 20 mins per session (it takes that long for the liver to give up all of its glycogen and blood sugars and the body to switch over to burning fat). Glycogen not used, turns to glucose, glucose turns to fat if not used.

    If you skip meals, wgt loss is a temporary malfunction of the body because it does not have the nutrients needed to continue its processes. When the body has to 'save' itself - it causes reactions like a slow down in metabolism to preserve survivabilty. That survival manifests itself into fat gain and muscle loss.

    If you want to prove it to yourself - try a 7 day strict water only fast - you may lose a 'few' pounds at first but you will stop losing weight in 3 days or less because your body will have gone into survival mode. It's counterintuitive but in the situation of ...
    good for you; some people don't have that experience. I gain weight just by sniffing bakery products.. and I exercise alot (4-5 days of intense bicycle riding over 100+ miles per week). Bottom line, there are as many weight management methods are there are people, but the main principles remain the same. Exercise more than you don't; put down the carbs unless you use them; use protein to build 'levers' (muscles not to lose weight0; get your heart rate to 130 bpm 3-5 days a week for a minimum of 20 mins per session (it takes that long for the liver to give up all of its glycogen and blood sugars and the body to switch over to burning fat). Glycogen not used, turns to glucose, glucose turns to fat if not used.

    If you skip meals, wgt loss is a temporary malfunction of the body because it does not have the nutrients needed to continue its processes. When the body has to 'save' itself - it causes reactions like a slow down in metabolism to preserve survivabilty. That survival manifests itself into fat gain and muscle loss.

    If you want to prove it to yourself - try a 7 day strict water only fast - you may lose a 'few' pounds at first but you will stop losing weight in 3 days or less because your body will have gone into survival mode. It's counterintuitive but in the situation of Karen Carpenter and why the only reason she's still losin weight right now is because she's dead - her heart gave out after chronic malnourishment. That's why while anorexic chicks fall for the false benefits of a death spiral type of weight loss strategy.
    (more)
  • <3 Xina... VickiLF... 2012/04/24 18:37:32
    <3 Xina )O( Wolfe <3
    +2
    -.- Yes, just because someone is obese they no longer have hunger. Wow, you don't have too much intelligence do you? Or at least not much common sense. And as Taitafalcon said, you do have to eat to lose weight. You don't get enough calories in yourself, as soon as you do eat, you eat too much, or even if you don't eat much, it's automatically put into fat, because your body thinks you are in starvation mode.
  • taitaFa... <3 Xina... 2012/04/24 21:21:23
    taitaFalcon23
    +1
    Exactly. the science of losing weight is counterintuitive. Sleep is a big factor; too little and watch the pounds pile on. That's because your body is smarter than you are and was created by a master engineer who provided exactly everything you need to live 100+ yrs if we'd just listen and put down the prescription drugs, fat sandwiches, our forks hovering over that superstack of pancakes and wash it all down with beer or sugary soft drinks. It took me 53 yrs to learn how to eat properly; I lost 55 lbs (and losing) in 6 months and cured my sleep apnea....some of my recipes (made 'em up myself) at: http://beltsocalelevatedphoto...
  • Foxhound BN0 2012/04/24 15:44:07
    Foxhound BN0
    +2
    It's not odd at all that the reich wingers vote for oppression and bigger government. They always do. Rick Scott is already banning legal substances too. What's new from the US nazi party?
    rick scott nazi
  • Boomer Foxhoun... 2012/04/24 17:21:11
    Boomer
    +2
    You're joking right? The most regulations, stifling laws and mommy government have been implemented by the mud sucking Libs. Bigger government has always been the bell of the LWNJ and now you think we conservatives want bigger government. You are not all there!!!!!!!! The New Communist Democrat party
  • DeathBy... Foxhoun... 2012/04/24 21:05:10
    DeathByPartisanship
    +2
    Man you guys are funny. One says republicans are fascist Nazis and the other says the democrats are Soviet communists.
  • Foxhoun... DeathBy... 2012/04/24 21:14:39
    Foxhound BN0
    +2
    We're both right. Please keep wingnuts out of government!
  • alex 2012/04/24 15:41:52
    alex
    +2
    If your an honest person, there should be no problem proving it with your pee.
  • Maiko alex 2012/04/24 21:16:07
    Maiko
    +1
    EXACTLY! Short and well said!
  • hippietim alex 2012/04/24 23:56:52
    hippietim
    I am damn near all of the time honest and I smoke pot! What is the problem?

    Timothy

    :o)
  • alex hippietim 2012/04/25 00:50:35
    alex
    That's the thing, nothings wrong with cannabis! That's why we need it legalized, its the wonder weed!
  • taitaFa... alex 2012/04/25 19:01:15
    taitaFalcon23
    honesty and drug addiction are not necessarily correlated
  • jamielstill 2012/04/24 15:24:07
    jamielstill
    +4
    Hell yes they should!!! I'll bet we could cut half of the spending in the first month of implementation.
  • gfreeman BN-0 2012/04/24 15:17:54
    gfreeman BN-0
    +1
    Of course they should, how is the politician that introduced the bill drug testing business supposed to make money in a down economy? Nothing like spending millions to save thousands! Ask Florida.
  • rhstarr 2012/04/24 15:06:27
    rhstarr
    +3
    Yes drug testing is a good idea. When you get a job you are drug tested.
  • Couri 2012/04/24 15:00:02
    Couri
    +2
    Damn right they should. I'm all for the welfare system for those who actually need it but I hate seeing druggies that won't work because they don't want to kick their habit long enough to find a stable job.
  • dear•LT13☻ 2012/04/24 14:55:22
    dear•LT13☻
    +4
    Politicians should also take Drug tests. Especially if they are crafting laws that effect the American people.
  • Grizz 2012/04/24 14:47:08 (edited)
    Grizz
    +2
    Welfare should not be given to ANYONE who is not elderly,infirm,extremely poor,or proven by investigation and Dr. documented disabled,OR a woman,(or man) with small children who's spouse abandoned her/him and they need TEMP. help to recover.THIS only after PASSING an approved drug screen.THATS my price for MY tax dollars. welfare drug screen
  • Brat 2012/04/24 14:43:04
    Brat
    +1
    YES! You have to drug test for many jobs, why not your public assistance? I have heard the argument over and over again that it is just a small percentage of people on welfare that do drugs and this is just a right wing tactic again. Well, I'm sure that there are just a small number of people in the work force that do drugs too and if they test positive, guess what? NO MORE JOB! I don't see the problem. In fact, it couldn't be more responsible of the government considering it isn't their money they are handing out.
  • Tom Trojan 2012/04/24 14:26:34
    Tom Trojan
    +2
    If you have money for drugs, then you should not be getting welfare.....
  • BOOGIE-WOOGIE-MUSIC-MAN-ROC... 2012/04/24 14:24:10
    BOOGIE-WOOGIE-MUSIC-MAN-ROCK-N-R
    +3
    Absolutely. positively. . YES YES YES!
    PUBLIC! Assist? Why can't you pass a drug test?
  • Wayne 2012/04/24 14:17:48
    Wayne
    +2
    While on the tax payers dime, this is not to much to ask. It will have positive effects just like the rest of industry has realized. If your not doing drugs then we will be glad to help you, if you are your on your own.
  • Maiko Wayne 2012/04/24 21:17:29
    Maiko
    +1
    Well said! =)
  • Wayne Maiko 2012/04/25 14:35:58
    Wayne
    Thank you. :)
  • Charlotte 2012/04/24 14:01:12
    Charlotte
    +1
    I had a job were all employees were tested randomly for drugs and we had to do a daily breathalyser. I think it's a good idea that welfare recipients are being tested. I wouldn't want my tax dollars supporting an addict's habit.
  • Mrs. V 2012/04/24 13:43:36
    Mrs. V
    If they MUST, it should be provided by the State. Not all welfare recipients are on drugs.
  • Bullmoose 2012/04/24 13:12:15 (edited)
    Bullmoose
    +4
    In Florida the Sales point of the plan was to save welfar cash. However the manadory drug testing is estimated to cost 10 times the estimated savings. Not to mention that the Governor (through his wife) owns the the majority stake in the largest drug testing firm in the state. Most welfare recipients can't afford drugs (only about 2% test positive) the main drug detected is marijuana, the harder drugs (crack, cocaine, Meth) wash out of the body quite quickly and are rarely detected. Alcohol abuse is much more destructive and problematic than marijuana use and is not illegal.



    I call foul on this idea.







    If the idea is to reduce drug usage i think there are better ways
  • jerry.a... Bullmoose 2012/04/25 08:28:55
    jerry.alan.carroll
    Meth half-life is about 10-12 hours but is still detectable in blood samples up to 10 days, crack about 3 days and coke about 8 days. still enough. drug testing is getting cheaper by the year. at one time it cost the Air force about a grand to test for steroids and now they can do it for less than $200. if a $200 test can save the tax payer even $1000, then i am all for it.
    But if you do more research, companies that are contracted to do drug testing usually offer bulk rates. 1000 people only cost about $20 for a full spectrum test. now no excuse but to do it.
  • Stealingsugar 2012/04/24 12:49:41
    Stealingsugar
    +1
    Congress should have to take drug tests, they are the ones who are making important decisions. Welfare people should be given free drugs because they have more stress to deal with from being poor, but they don't have to make any important decisions so why does it matter?
  • AmericanWay62 2012/04/24 12:24:19
    AmericanWay62
    +2
    Millionaires should have to take drug tests. They're the ones benefitting from our hard labor and paying lower taxes than we are. End welfare for the corporations and the rich.

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