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PUBLIC OPINION > Victims of 'Surprise STDs' Should Not Get Compensation

SodaHead News 2012/06/08 13:00:00
The media recently reported on a 49-year-old woman who received genital herpes from a 69-year-old man she met on eHarmony. The woman won $900,000 in court after convincing the judge that the man did not tell her about his disease, and aggressively refused to put on a condom. We wanted to know what the public thought about "surprise STDs."

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The overall vote was enough to make a judgement call, but it was close and controversial. One reason it was so controversial is because the situation is inherently vague. Even in the case cited above, it's very unclear what the actual circumstances were. If the defendant was aggressive enough to refuse a condom, why wasn't it called "rape"? Should that even matter? What if a victim lies about being informed, just to make a profit? There are a lot of variables.

Conservatives Dismiss the Court

The only demographic to play a major role in this issue was politics, and you can probably guess the outcome: Liberals were keen on punishment, while conservatives were quick to dismiss the court. The primary argument against punishing people who spread STDs without warning is that the victim had a certain level of responsibility, as well -- assuming, of course, it wasn't rape.

Teens Know to Use Protection

The age breakdown was interesting. Teens were the most likely to deny compensation, probably because they're still going through sex ed and know just how important protection is. However, support for compensation formed a sort of bell curve, peaking at the 25-34 range, probably about the age skimping on protection becomes the most tempting.

Men Are More Likely to Punish

We were curious to see if gender affected the results -- maybe women would be more likely to sympathize with the victim in this particular case. But there was hardly any difference at all, and the difference that did exist was the exact opposite. Women were a little bit more likely to let the defendant off the hook.

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  • Amelia 2012/06/08 16:16:02
    Amelia
    +9
    No. sorry you slept with him, you dealt with the STD. If he said no condom, you best get out of that bed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • barby k... justfred 2012/06/10 06:36:15
    barby karring
    Everyone coming down hard on her for sleeping with the guy after four dates. She didn't bother to check out key elements in their relationship possibly to be; and that was to make sure he didn't have any diseases that she should know of. And for her to let him know about herself, if she was diseasefree or not. Everyone's jumping her case because she was the controlling factor asto whethet he got a green flag to do her or a red flag to get the hell out. It matters whether the guy told her or not, but the whole encounter hinged on a nod from her to get him in; with or without a condom and at that point with or without a disease.
  • justfred barby k... 2012/06/11 18:50:32
    justfred
    I am not sure what your point is.
  • CrystalBall 2012/06/08 17:11:49
    CrystalBall
    +3
    No.. She is 49 yrs old.. the fourth date and no protection! Seriously?!? I don't care if he was aggressive that would have been the deal breaker to any kind of sexual intercourse. A woman that age should know what the consequences of unprotected sex are. As a responsible MALE he should have known to USE a condom.
  • sundance Crystal... 2012/06/09 08:46:50
    sundance
    Dont you mean as responsible adults, "they" should have known?....
  • Crystal... sundance 2012/07/09 16:41:32
    CrystalBall
    Isn't that what I said.. but with a few more words? :)
  • sundance Crystal... 2012/07/09 18:28:01
    sundance
    Well, in this world, and in this subject, implication seems to be everything. So, to that end, placing fault, blame or responsibility squarely on both parties, was actually my point. It was also what elicited my comment...Just a thought...
  • retrograve 2012/06/08 17:02:56
    retrograve
    +2
    I don't know if she shouldn't get compensation or not but she could of also aggressively not slept with him. NO GLOVE NO LOVE. Scream it to the top of your lungs if you have to.
  • davyd god loving patriot 2012/06/08 17:00:43
    davyd god loving patriot
    +2
    lol are you kidding ? Well this the way the libs want the world, blame someone else for what you do wrong. Usama nobama is a perfect example
  • justfred davyd g... 2012/06/08 17:15:17
    justfred
    +1
    What did she do wrong?
  • davyd g... justfred 2012/06/08 17:23:31
    davyd god loving patriot
    +1
    she said yes and spread her legs, could have said no condemn no cat
  • justfred davyd g... 2012/06/08 17:26:40
    justfred
    +4
    She liked a guy, trusted him and agreed to have sex with him. You are saying that having sex with someone to whom you are not married is wrong? Are you saying that you never had sex with anyone to whom you were not married?

    He knew he had herpes and didn't tell her. Why are you blaming the victim?
  • davyd g... justfred 2012/06/08 17:30:30
    davyd god loving patriot
    +1
    I'm not blaming the lady, she took the chance and had sex with him, and lost, two wrongs don't make right
  • justfred davyd g... 2012/06/08 17:32:33
    justfred
    +5
    She made a choice, true...but she didn't have all the information she needed to make the choice, because the man withheld it, did she?

    Typical CON...blame the victim. Would Jesus have blamed her?
  • davyd g... justfred 2012/06/08 17:38:06
    davyd god loving patriot
    +2
    Why is she worried about protection after the fact, yep God gives everyone a brain to use not just to take up space, he played her and she let him. Like lending money to someone you know you won't get back but you do it anyway, who's fault ? You'll learn.........
  • Bulanov... davyd g... 2012/06/08 18:05:56
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    +1
    A more comparable scenario to what allegedly happened would be lending money to someone you had every right to believe would pay it back. Your scenario is a fool-me-once scenario, but what happened was a first-time deal.
  • davyd g... Bulanov... 2012/06/10 23:58:20
    davyd god loving patriot
    yea like Christians need to pay for you having sex, That's the stupid liberal way, atleast she was to old to get knocked up, but then murder is not this bad......... get a life
  • Bulanov... davyd g... 2012/06/11 14:44:23
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    ... what? Sorry, I don't see how your reply follows the flow of this conversation. Maybe you got your replies mixed up.
  • justfred davyd g... 2012/06/08 21:22:29
    justfred
    +1
    There is a difference in your analogy and the key is "you know won't pay you back"....she didn't know he had herpes. He kept that little piece of information away from her so she could not make an informed decision.
  • davyd g... justfred 2012/06/10 23:59:07
    davyd god loving patriot
    like nobama and the dumbocrats ?
  • justfred davyd g... 2012/06/11 18:51:03
    justfred
    No, like Dumbya and the GOPerCONmen.
  • J justfred 2012/06/08 18:10:27
    J
    He would have!
    And unless you believe in Christ, is it really useful to bring Him up in your defenses?
  • justfred J 2012/06/08 21:23:31
    justfred
    I do believe in Christ. I also know that he did not condemn the woman at the well while the other Jews wouldn't even let her come get water at the same time the other women were there.
  • J justfred 2012/06/12 16:48:15
    J
    The difference is that He didn't approve of her (past) behavior, but knew that she was truly repentant.
  • justfred J 2012/06/12 17:22:11
    justfred
    Did he tell her not to go home to the man with whom she was living, but wasn't married?
  • J justfred 2012/06/12 21:27:46
    J
    He did not tell her one way or the other, but she knew she had met the Son of God and that his offer of "water" for which she would thirst no more was a metaphor of salvation. We we trust in the life of Christ, we strive to walk as he - not that we can, but we must try, without sin. If this woman KNEW, I'm betting that she didn't go back to this man and live in sin.
  • justfred J 2012/06/12 22:47:57
    justfred
    Then you would lose the bet. Her father wouldn't take her back (he would have been duty bound by the law to kill her), her family the same - - her husband? Which one?

    No, that woman was using herself just to stay alive...I doubt she had any other options.
  • Josh justfred 2012/06/08 18:13:08
    Josh
    Yes because even someone as flawed as Jesus condemes the ignorent, If you dont ask youl never learn, its a sad story but its a true one, you have to ask because takeing things on bind faith never pays off.
  • justfred Josh 2012/06/08 21:24:30
    justfred
    +1
    1) Jesus is not flawed
    2) Jesus did not condemn any except those who wouldn't believe.
  • sundance justfred 2012/06/09 09:13:49 (edited)
    sundance
    So what your saying, is that making decisions, sans information, removes responsibility? He refused to wear a condom. Is this not all the information necessary? She chose to move outside her comfort zone, in pursuit of her own carnal pleasure, and got burned.
    Remember the adage, "there is a fool born every minute, and a con man to take advantage of them". To not choose to protect yourself, is in fact, your error, and yours alone.....Just a thought....

    PS. Yes, according to the Bible, Jesus would have seen her as a sinner...
  • justfred sundance 2012/06/11 18:53:12
    justfred
    Do you know that he refused to wear a condom, or did nature just take it's course? After four dates and becoming intimate I am sure that the subject came up...and if he didn't disclose (which he should have up front and immediately) then he was at fault.

    PS...yes, Jesus would have seen her as a sinner, but he didn't condemn sinners, he saved them
  • sundance justfred 2012/06/11 20:42:17
    sundance
    Semantics....First, he did refuse to wear a condom. Second, she let him get away with it. End of story...

    PS...You can not save someone from themselves.....
  • justfred sundance 2012/06/11 21:03:42
    justfred
    As I said before, eHarmony is not a pickup site. This was not a one night stand. This was supposed to be the beginning of something serious and meaningful.

    You are looking at it like it was a sexual encounter instead of a relationship one.
  • sundance justfred 2012/06/12 04:32:48
  • justfred sundance 2012/06/12 16:36:06
    justfred
    I am not absolving her of any responsibility...but the greater responsibility was the one who knew he could infect her and said nothing.
  • teigan justfred 2012/06/08 19:25:53
    teigan
    She made a concious choice to have unprotected sex. She is equally responsible.
  • justfred teigan 2012/06/08 21:25:17
    justfred
    +1
    If she had the information he intentionally kept from her, I would agree.

    Since she didn't.....it cannot be the same.
  • teigan justfred 2012/06/09 18:10:58
    teigan
    I don't agree because if he "aggressively" refused to use protection, she should have refuse to have sex. We are responsible for our own choices, she made a bad one. Especially since he showed a tendency to be aggressive, bells should have gone off in her head.
  • justfred teigan 2012/06/11 18:54:13
    justfred
    If he was aggressive knowing that he had the herpes virus then he is even more responsible.
  • teigan justfred 2012/06/12 04:42:59
    teigan
    She bears responsibility as well for her irresponsable choice to have unprotective sex.
  • sundance justfred 2012/06/12 04:29:54
    sundance
    It is the same, regardless of intention, and regardless of information. What your saying is that not knowing made a physiological difference. Had it been a one night stand, and her partner was infected, the outcome would be the same. Disease gives not a damn about your intentions.... He was wrong, for not disclosing his situation, and she was wrong, for not controlling hers...Just a thought...

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