Tell ya what. That 35% who think horrid criminals should live and stay in prison can now pay the costs of storing them and providing their care and feeding.
The rest of us will pay for a bullet.
PUBLIC OPINION > The Death Penalty Is Necessary
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2012/04/30 16:00:00
California is getting ready to vote on whether or not to repeal capital punishment, so we took it to the broader public first, asking one basic question: Is the death penalty necessary? Though capital punishment is not practiced in most countries, it is practiced in the four most populous countries (China, India, Indonesia, and most of the U.S.), making it a complex and controversial topic. But don't worry, we broke it down for you by country, state -- and much more. Want to know how they feel about it in California? You might be surprised. Let's dive!
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Striker 2012/04/30 17:24:35
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may be we should bow to the perp's and say how sorry we are that their lives are inconienced by the police officer arresting them and let them go free ??
how violent and savage you and I are,,,
This sort of stuff is why our world is in such a disarray ... good people are evil for addressing a problem ..... bad people are the way they are due to good people forcing their Laws + Ways on them .... sheesh .... double sheesh !
So that indicate to me that the death penalty in America is not being used as a deterrence so much as it is being used as a means of revenge. American's are synonymous for seeking their pound of flesh when we feel that we have been wronged. It is my opinion that this is the case where the death penalty is concern.
We are a country that put people in prison for their thoughts, for what they say, for what we think they are intending to do, and even worst than that, for being wrongly accused. All in he name of so call justice, or better stated our pound of flesh, our revenge. We are a society that just is not happy unless we have someone to place the blame on.
So what we call legal murder here in America is nothing more that our legal system being able to say to those that are convicted we win the pissing contest..JOMO
Aside from that.., the death penalty still serves no productive purpose.., it is a vengeful act that in no way keeps crime from recurring. So no matter how much you or anyone else point out how people in other parts of the world is doing the same or worst, it still serves no productive purpose.
By the way.., the question was not about the fairness or unfairness of the death penalty.., it was and I quote "Is The Death Penalty Necessary". Your response has nothing to do with the original question. Your response has more to do with how much more messed up the middle east is where treachery is concern than America. That is a hold other topic and has nothing to do with whether the death penalty is necessary..., JOMO
Intentional homicide rates per 100,000 population by region 2010[6]
Southern Africa 32
Central America 25
South America 21
West and Central Africa 19
East Africa 23
Africa 17.4
Caribbean 21
Americas 15.5
East Europe 7
World 6.9
North Africa 7.6 6
Central Asia and Transcaucasian countries 6
North America 4.7
Europe 3.5
Near and Middle East/Southwest Asia 3
Oceania 3.5
South Asia 4
Asia 3.1
Southeast Europe 3.2 1.5
East and Southeast Asia 2.8 3
West and Central Europe 1.5 1.2
And even if they DIDN'T have that general rate there, you don't get an average stat by just adding up the rates for every region, you have to AVERAGE them. The rates for North America aren't the U.S. rate + Canada's rate + Mexico's rate, they are all figured together per 10,000 people.
So...
Now.., if we were to examine just that part of the question.., I still say it is a very un - necessary evil. There are so many other ways to achieve the exact same results without murdering people. One of the ways that comes to mind is cut their hands off.., after all that is one part of their body they used to commit the crime.
The reason that out judicial system impose penalties on criminals in the first place is to punish them not get revenge. Now if the purpose in conducting what we call legal murder is to say to the criminal.., There take that...!, then I can see your point, but even still it does not deter crime or murder, it only deters that particular person.
So since the death penalty does not eliminate the crimes of which we are legally murdering people for..., I still say it is not necessary. Take body parts from the criminal there by eliminating their ability to commit a crime in the future. JOMO
I am betting that if one of their family members was on death row and it wasn't for sure if they were guilty or not.., I am betting they would have a hold new perspective. I mean the death penalty goes against everything that makes sense.
On one hand we as a society say it is wrong to kill except when the judicial system says it's okay, and how many times have they been wrong..? And how many of the crimes they are legally killing people for eradicated that particular crime, not once, it only eradicated that particular person. And as we all know there is another person waiting in line to repeat the crime again...
Murder is murder.., legally or illegally it is all the same.., and that means it is flat out wrong...! JOMO
For example,like in a romantic relationship, if one of the partners cheats, is anything solved by the other partner going out and finding someone to sleep with to even the score? It just creates more negativity, more resentment, more anger.
it's just revenge, it's just "you hurt me so I hurt you", and it's silly that this sort of thinking is generally frowned upon BECAUSE it's so unproductive and pointless, except in this case. Like, if your child broke their sibling toy, would you tell the wronged kid to break the other kids toys? Or would you tell the first kid to apologize and make amends and learn not to do that again, and teach the kid with the broken toy to forgive and accept the apology?
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. This doesn't mean "get revenge on those who have hurt you by hurting them back", it means "treat everyone the way that you would want them to treat you". And I prefer to live as that.
The death penalty is not an adequate deterrent because it is so rarely used and it takes upwards of 20 years before the bad guys ever have to think about making final arrangements.
Let's give 'em a trial. If he's guilty, take him out back and finish him off!
Next!
But in respect to your response I would hate to think if you were one of the people that was triad and convicted and placed on death row before DNA technology was available, and you just happen to be innocent. I think those that were placed wrongfully on death row only to be exonerated after DNA technology came online some 20 years later are extremely glad that people that think the way you do are not in the decision making process... I'm just saying.....JOMO
And, fortunately all our conversations here (whether adequately bound to your perception of the topic or not) are all taking place in the present time. So, we don't have to worry about me being falsely convicted in the past. (Whew!, dodged a bullet there!)
The death penalty is as permanent and irreversible as it gets, one person being put to death wrongfully is one person to many. And for those of you that feels a innocent person being put to death is just a hazard to the trade in order for the death penalty to work, well just pray that you or a member of your family do not end up being that innocent person.
Even if the system was perfect.., who are we humans that is as flawed as flawed can get to decide who live and who dies...? Humans are the meanness most cruel species on this planet. Yet we expect mercy both from those we offend and better yet from God. No man has the right to take what he can not give Especially LIfe, but as I said you are certainly entitled to your opinion, again as I am I...JOMO
Is it your opinion that humans are the meanest, most cruel species? Or, are you claiming that as fact. Because I can find an awful lot of information that would support the concept that humans are quite compassionate and gentle beings.
And finally, you REALLY don't have to remind me that I am entitled to my opinion. Trust me - I know.
Aside from that where people being the meanest most cruel species on this planet is concern.., I most certainly do claim it as being a fact. Man is the only creature that kills just for the sake of killing..., Man is the only creature that will dislike another man just because of the color of their skin. and the list goes on and on. Now you can debate this matter until cows fly, but facts are facts.
I just pray as I have said earlier that you and or your family members do not find yourself at the wrong end of death row un justly. By the way, I do not now nor have ever sort to be noble, the fact of the matter is, right is right and wrong is wrong.. Now you ended your statement by saying "TRUST YOU"...! Based on the sentiment you have expressed so far,,,Respectfully Scott.., you and people that think the way you do are the very last people I would TRUST....! Sincerely...JOMO
"THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY....! Not the everyday citizen, every time we put someone in prison in America it cost the tax payer a minimum of $30,000.00 per year per inmate.
Not to mention that if we do what you suggest this will be repeated on a daily bases across the country. So in effect if we continue to use prison as our first option not only will the criminals be made to pay but all of America will have to pay as well with higher tax to build new prisons and to house the those that we put in prison.
I think, tie their ass to a tree or something similar and cane their ass until it is raw. And if they grow up and continue to commit crimes fix them so that they can't. It just does not make sense that the America tax payer has to be strapped with an open ended debt as a result of warehousing inmates except for murders, rapes and child abuser.
And even in some cases where child abuser and rapist are concern America can deal with them in a way that the part of their body used to commit their crime can be removed. Problem solved, cost to America, a one time surgical procedure, now this person may commit another crime but it wont be with that part of their body.
Now for those of you that think that to be barbaric, I su...
"THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY....! Not the everyday citizen, every time we put someone in prison in America it cost the tax payer a minimum of $30,000.00 per year per inmate.
Not to mention that if we do what you suggest this will be repeated on a daily bases across the country. So in effect if we continue to use prison as our first option not only will the criminals be made to pay but all of America will have to pay as well with higher tax to build new prisons and to house the those that we put in prison.
I think, tie their ass to a tree or something similar and cane their ass until it is raw. And if they grow up and continue to commit crimes fix them so that they can't. It just does not make sense that the America tax payer has to be strapped with an open ended debt as a result of warehousing inmates except for murders, rapes and child abuser.
And even in some cases where child abuser and rapist are concern America can deal with them in a way that the part of their body used to commit their crime can be removed. Problem solved, cost to America, a one time surgical procedure, now this person may commit another crime but it wont be with that part of their body.
Now for those of you that think that to be barbaric, I suggest you tell that to the victims of the crime, and the millions of the tax payers that has to choose between food and medicine as a result of higher taxation."
So, we tie them to a tree and cut off their weenies. I see where you get the idea that humans are mean spirited.
As for our difference in opinion on the death penalty, it looks to me like you just want to enjoy the suffering of the bad guy.Where I just want to dispose of the garbage and move on.
Thanks for the prayers; did you REALLY pray for me and my family? Or did you just say that would?
By the way, for those of you playing along at home, the quote was from Lross himself, in a previous post, on another topic.
I think everyone short of you will see my suggestion falls way short of being vengeful or barbaric. What I posted was suggested as an alternative to killing someone for haven committed a crime.. And yes I will say it again,,. Dismemberment is far better than killing another human being.
Given that the federal, or state or local government is going to have to deal with a a convicted person by default..., looking at a way to minimize the cost is much better to eliminate the convict ability to repeat offend oppose to KILLING THEM....!
And for the record, rest assured in the eyes of the God I pray to..., YES I HAVE PRAYED FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY SEVERAL TIME SINCE I PROCLAIMED TO HAVE DONE SO...!
Do me a favor..., please continue to follow my posting maybe.., just maybe something I post just might wake up the humanity in you...JOMO
Good luck getting that dismemberment bill passed.