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PUBLIC OPINION > The Death Penalty Is Necessary

SodaHead News 2012/04/25 17:00:00
The death penalty is a complicated and controversial topic, evidenced by the fact that 16 states refuse to practice it, and more are struggling to decide. California is the latest state to challenge the death penalty, and they're taking an unusual route -- the ballot. California voters will actually get to decide whether or not to repeal the death penalty this year, and commute the sentences of more than 700 death row inmates. We took it to a broader audience first.

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The death penalty is controversial, but the overall vote was still firmly in favor. Supporters just couldn't entertain the thought of letting a criminal guilty of horrible crimes have the luxury of hope, particularly in the case of heinous murders, aggravated rape, and the like. Some also argued that the death penalty is a deterrent. On the other side of the argument, there is the possibility of executing an innocent. The Top Opinion wrote, "Better that we should jail the scum for life than inadvertently put to death one innocent person."

Liberals Let Them Live

Politics play an obvious role, but the reason behind the distinction is less obvious. The fiscal elements seem incidental, and it's not your typical "family values" case, either. It does resemble anti-war sentiment in the sense that there is a strong opposition to the risk of innocent life. But liberals weren't as against it as conservatives were for it, hence the overall.

California for Capital Punishment

Though California has recently been a Democratic majority, it's still strongly in support of the death penalty. It could be that the volume of death row inmates worries residents enough to keep the practice in place. In New York, where the death penalty was ruled unconstitutional in 2004, support was much lower.

Against It Overseas

It's a hot issue in California right now, but the death penalty is a global issue. It's still practiced in China, India, Indonesia, and the U.S. -- the four most populous countries in the world -- but the UN General Assembly issued a moratorium, and it's been abolished in most of the world, including all of South America and Europe (except Belarus).

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  • holieberie 2012/04/25 18:51:56
    holieberie
    +4
    Do you realize how much money it costs to keep these "murderer's" in prison? How much tax dollars it costs? These people who are put on death row are well aware of their actions. They chose to make those choices...taking another life, They deserve to feel that pain as well. And eye for an eye. If I could, I would have each one killed the same way they killed their victims. It would make people think a lot harder for their actions

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  • Sterling Osk The... 2012/04/25 19:00:09 (edited)
    Sterling
    +5
    Killing and raping babies, children, women, men, and anyone innocent is murder.
    Killing the people who commit those atrocities is justice.
  • Osk The... Sterling 2012/04/25 19:02:46
    Osk The Great Guru
    +1
    But in a way, you are killing the murderer as well if you think about it. What if the person that you killed through the Death Penality was not the actual murderer? Then you are also killing an innocent man and not the real murderer
  • CODE 11 Osk The... 2012/04/25 19:16:35
    CODE 11
    +1
    You can't win them all
  • Osk The... CODE 11 2012/04/25 19:18:10
    Osk The Great Guru
    +1
    Perhaps, but you can try
  • CODE 11 Osk The... 2012/04/26 03:03:55
    CODE 11
    Even when they find the smoking gun..in the killers hand..they still want to give him a break.
  • Sterling Osk The... 2012/04/25 19:35:15
    Sterling
    +1
    Damn straight I'd kill the murderer, if we use the death penalty it needs to be for cases "beyond a reasonable doubt."
  • Osk The... Sterling 2012/04/25 19:45:01
    Osk The Great Guru
    Then he would have already won because you would be at his level
  • Sterling Osk The... 2012/04/25 19:53:45
    Sterling
    +1
    So when someone steals something, if you catch them and they've spent it you can't take what your owed back out of their bank account?
  • Osk The... Sterling 2012/04/25 19:56:54
    Osk The Great Guru
    That doesn't make sense...

    If they steal, they go to jail. If they kill someone, they still go to jail.
  • Lanikai Osk The... 2012/04/25 20:21:01
    Lanikai
    +1
    The penalty should be exactly as the crime was. The death penalty is supposed to be used often-to prevent others from murdering, but the liberals have made the criminals into the victims and the victims somehow deserving of their awful deaths or tortures. When you kill a rabid animal, it ceases to be a problem for the rest of polite society.

    Kill all the rabid animals that have committed heinous crimes. End of problem.
  • Sterling Osk The... 2012/04/25 20:39:08
    Sterling
    No when you commit a crime you pay back what you owe with interest, either by returning the goods taken or by paying the time. When you steal a mans life or rape someone it cannot be returned to them. The penalty for that crime is death.

    What we have now is a convoluted system where victims get nothing except supposed justice and that justice is them subsidizing the existence of the people who committed the crime.
  • taitaFa... Osk The... 2012/04/26 20:37:50
    taitaFalcon23
    that is philosphical bullsh*t. One thing I learned from college philosophy is that philosophy is fine, right up until it runs smack dab into reality. A world where a killer suddenly comprehends an ephiphany of how they SHOULD have behaved is in reality, worthless to the victim for which they're being executed for. I prefer to inhabit THIS world, thank you....
  • taitaFa... Osk The... 2012/04/25 19:50:34
    taitaFalcon23
    +1
    100% reduction in redidivism in that specife case - very effective
  • Mantic Osk The... 2012/04/25 20:00:12 (edited)
    Mantic
    +1
    Actually, I think it's a bit worse, letting the State kill for you. People never internalize that they have killed the person -- like Pilate they wash their hands of the guilt. At least the murderer bears the burden of the act.

    How about if the death penalty had to be enacted, physically and personally, not remotely or "humanely," by the individual wronged (immediate family of murder victims, fi)? If they can't or won't do it, it doesn't happen. And if they do it, then they in turn go before a court of their peers to be judged for the act.

    I'd be copacetic with that.
  • meg 2012/04/25 18:40:27
    meg
    +1
    No it isn't.
  • Diana 2012/04/25 18:32:26
    Diana
    +3
    Death is too easy of a punishment. Life in prison without parole is the way to go.
  • Sterling Diana 2012/04/25 18:58:08
    Sterling
    +3
    The problem is that prison isn't hardly a punishment and we have to pay for it. The victims are actually paying a small part of the cost of keeping a murderer or rapist alive. Pretty sickening.
  • Diana Sterling 2012/04/25 19:08:54
    Diana
    I just think killing them let's them get off to easily. Although they will face punishment after death as well.
  • CODE 11 Diana 2012/04/25 19:18:05
    CODE 11
    They use have to serve the sentance in a place like Turkey
  • CODE 11 Diana 2012/04/25 19:17:15
    CODE 11
    +1
    We have to pay for it.....and he even gets cable tv in his cell
  • Seeker ... Diana 2012/04/25 19:50:22
    Seeker of Truth - War Wizard
    If you believe in the afterlife, then sending them to meet their maker is the best punishment. Let Him decide how to deal with them.

    I don't see the death penalty as actually being a "punishment" anyways. It's merely a way of permanently removing people from society when they have demonstrated that they are have no respect for other people's life and committed horrendous crimes.
  • taitaFa... Diana 2012/04/26 20:39:18
    taitaFalcon23
    philosophical argument; it is worthless to the victim.
  • Kat 2012/04/25 18:32:08
    Kat
    +2
    Yes, it would be more effective if they actually used it.
  • jgh57 2012/04/25 18:29:57
    jgh57
    +3
    California played this stupid game before and what did it get them? Charles Manson with parole hearing every few years. Some people have no redeeming values and do not belong on this Earth.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/04/25 18:21:33
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    The death penalty does not decrease the incidence of whatever offences it is used for, and is kinder and more expensive than sticking the criminal in a pit with bread and water and hard labour to do.
  • J 2012/04/25 18:21:29
    J
    +3
    First, do we really care about the "overseas" vote?
    There are many who will never be rehabilitated and have no desire to be, yet people who cry about starving children want to keep the vermin fed, healthy and comfortable for the rest of their natural life.

    I would be less for the death penalty if we could bring back labor chain-gangs. I think that giving those convicted of heinous crimes more comfortable living than those senior citizens living in nursing homes is a crime in and of itself. That Arizona sheriff has the right idea - tents to live in, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, military-style cots, no tv - much less satellite service, no computers or video games. Let them have educational and spiritual (not any that has a religion that teaches them to hate the US) books to read. And rocks and dirt to move for exercise.
  • twhitin... J 2012/04/25 18:38:05
    twhiting9275
    +1
    Sounds perfect
    We spoil our prisoners any more. No, really, we spoil the hell out of them!
  • H H 2012/04/25 18:05:12 (edited)
    H H
    +1
    I approve of it if it is only for the most serious crimes and only if there is absolute certainty about having the right perp. The courts are corrupt conviction mills. No one knows how many innocent people have been murdered by the state in the name of the law. That's horrible! The death penalty should be abolished until the system can be fair.
  • twhiting9275 2012/04/25 18:04:52
    twhiting9275
    +1
    Is it NECESSARY? Hell no
    Does it serve a purpose? Absolutely
    Does it cost the taxpayer more? I wouldn't go that far.

    Realistically, I don't see a problem with it. If a crime is heinous enough (murder would be about the only one I'd see fit for it), then yes, I'd say do it.
  • Phantom... twhitin... 2012/04/25 18:48:54
    PhantomDream
    Considering that execution costs more than keeping an inmate incarcerated for life, it potentially could cost a taxpayer more.
  • DanC 2012/04/25 18:03:39
    DanC
    +2
    Yet another example of the US sharing third world values.
  • Jim 2012/04/25 17:52:56
    Jim
    +1
    The person who rapes , kills and mutilates my daughter will not go to jail and be executed. I will take care of that myself. The death penalty has been rendered useless by Lawyers and courts. Justice is just a word that is ignored by lawmakers.
  • Commander Pyle 2012/04/25 17:49:35
    Commander Pyle
    +2
    The death penalty should be used only when evidence of the killer is indisputable, and the act was so heinous that it disgusts everyone. I believe more in the power of the public to defend and protect themselves, and to severely restrict from the state the power to execute its citizens/residents.
  • lee 2012/04/25 17:47:30
    lee
    +1
    cons are on the wrong side of history AGAIN..

    will they EVER learn?
  • Wyzard 2012/04/25 17:47:27
    Wyzard
    +1
    It is nessesary as long as the conviction is 100% proof positive.
  • Mantic Wyzard 2012/04/25 20:23:08 (edited)
    Mantic
    That would narrow it down, alright.

    How few 100% indefensible cases are there like, say, Jeffrey Dahmer, where he's caught while stewing some guy's genitals in a pot on the stove?
  • Wyzard Mantic 2012/04/26 00:48:40
    Wyzard
    +1
    very few....
  • Tea in the Harbor 2012/04/25 17:33:54
    Tea in the Harbor
    +2
    The death penalty is clearly not necessary, and statistically it's doubtful that it serves any purpose beyond the pleasure some people get watching others die.

    Virtually every country without the death penalty has a lower rate of violent crime than we do, and it's far more expensive to administer than the alternative.

    It can be statistically shown to be less effective and more expensive, isn't that the same argument conservatives had to face with health care reform? Why do they like things that cost more and don't work?

    Oh wait, that also describes corporate executives doesn't it? Answered my own question, LOL!
  • Command... Tea in ... 2012/04/25 17:55:14
    Commander Pyle
    +2
    Explain Mexico, a state with no death penalty and a severely restricted gun policy. Violent gun crime and murder is not low. People roam the streets freely in convoys loaded with masked gunmen. While I wouldn't trust the government with the death penalty, i wouldn't blame its people for wanting it. This is why Sedena, Semar, and the Federales, routinely bag gunmen they confront. Why bother having an overpopulated prison that will be the scene of a prison breakout months later? Might as well kill them where they see them.
  • DanC Command... 2012/04/25 18:21:49
    DanC
    +1
    Mexico is an exception, the vast majority of countries which have no death penalty and which have strict gun control laws, have far lower rates of crime than those that have the death penalty and no or lax gun control.
    There's no "severely restricted gun policy" in Mexico, you can legally buy lethal guns without any hindrance whatsoever. A "severely restricted gun policy" would mean that you can't buy any lethal guns of kind (as it is the case in the UK for example)

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