PUBLIC OPINION > Small Majority Say the 'Good Guys' Didn't Win in Dorner Case
SodaHead News
2013/02/14 23:00:00
California has been on edge this week as the battle unfolded between the state's police departments and ex-cop Chris Dorner. After allegedly murdering four people and wounding four others, Dorner was cornered in a cabin in Big Bear, CA. A shootout with police resulted in Dorner barricading himself inside a cabin and ultimately dying from a fire erupting in the building.
Public support was divided throughout the duration of the manhunt, as some found themselves sympathizing with Dorner's manifesto and weren't sure if police authorities were completely just, while others couldn't excuse the taking of innocent lives for any reason. Because of this divide, after the hunt for Dorner was officially over, we asked you whether the good guys won -- and the majority of you (57%) voted that they didn't. Let's dive.
Before we break down the stats, we have to point out the complexities within this question. Inquiring if the "good guys" won, we left users to interpret amongst themselves who they considered the good guys in this case. Most may have thought it was the police, while others could have interpreted it to mean the entire anti-establishment movement or even Dorner himself. But one thing is certain: thoughts on this case were varied and complex.
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE KEEPING THE FAITH
The majority of agnostic and atheist users (69% and 65% respectively) had a hard time putting their faith in the "good guys." Maybe they are just more skeptical than religious SodaHeads -- 51% of Christians and 53% of Jewish people voted that the good guys won. Although this was a close vote, there was still a significant difference between the religious and the non-religious users.
CONSERVATIVES ARE CONVINCED
66% of conservatives claim the good guys won, while almost the same amount of liberals (64%), progressives (63%), moderates (63%) and libertarians (66%) disagree. At first glance, you might think conservatives view the cops as the "good guys" while the other political persuasions view Dorner as the "good guy," but in reality, liberal voters probably had a hard time saying that there are any good guys in this scenario. Yet again, the subjectivity of who the "good guys" really were in this case took its course.
MINORITIES MOVE TOWARD 'NO'
About one-fourth of the SodaHeads voting in this poll were minorities, and the majority of them voted that the good guys didn't win. This is significant because of Dorner's claims of racial prejudice and discrimination among the LAPD and other police departments. Though minorities aren't necessarily standing behind Dorner's actions, they're also not quick to say that all ended well in this case. Maybe they think there's still a lot of work to be done as far as authorities and race relations are concerned.
If you'd like to vote on these questions, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion, visit our original polls about Chris Dorner. We'd love to hear from you.
Public support was divided throughout the duration of the manhunt, as some found themselves sympathizing with Dorner's manifesto and weren't sure if police authorities were completely just, while others couldn't excuse the taking of innocent lives for any reason. Because of this divide, after the hunt for Dorner was officially over, we asked you whether the good guys won -- and the majority of you (57%) voted that they didn't. Let's dive.
Before we break down the stats, we have to point out the complexities within this question. Inquiring if the "good guys" won, we left users to interpret amongst themselves who they considered the good guys in this case. Most may have thought it was the police, while others could have interpreted it to mean the entire anti-establishment movement or even Dorner himself. But one thing is certain: thoughts on this case were varied and complex.
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE KEEPING THE FAITH
The majority of agnostic and atheist users (69% and 65% respectively) had a hard time putting their faith in the "good guys." Maybe they are just more skeptical than religious SodaHeads -- 51% of Christians and 53% of Jewish people voted that the good guys won. Although this was a close vote, there was still a significant difference between the religious and the non-religious users.
CONSERVATIVES ARE CONVINCED
66% of conservatives claim the good guys won, while almost the same amount of liberals (64%), progressives (63%), moderates (63%) and libertarians (66%) disagree. At first glance, you might think conservatives view the cops as the "good guys" while the other political persuasions view Dorner as the "good guy," but in reality, liberal voters probably had a hard time saying that there are any good guys in this scenario. Yet again, the subjectivity of who the "good guys" really were in this case took its course.
MINORITIES MOVE TOWARD 'NO'
About one-fourth of the SodaHeads voting in this poll were minorities, and the majority of them voted that the good guys didn't win. This is significant because of Dorner's claims of racial prejudice and discrimination among the LAPD and other police departments. Though minorities aren't necessarily standing behind Dorner's actions, they're also not quick to say that all ended well in this case. Maybe they think there's still a lot of work to be done as far as authorities and race relations are concerned.
If you'd like to vote on these questions, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion, visit our original polls about Chris Dorner. We'd love to hear from you.
First of all, you can't just say "These people believe this" because that's not true. don't just clump people together because some people in that group believe that way...not all Christians are the same. Not all Liberals are the same...and on and on
Second, we all focus way too much on "Good and Bad". When in most situations, it's not that simple. Hardly anything is that black and white. Stop thinking that one side has to be bad and one has to be good. This is a really lame example, but in Star Wars they even had the "dark side" and all of that. But in the end, you realize that the dark side wasn't completely evil (Well, Darth Vader anyway). My point is, there is never a side that is completely bad. Ever. Each 'side' has a good side and a bad side. And that's life.
The problem with saying the good guys won is that I dont know who the good guys were? Dorner that shot the innocent family of supposedly corrupt cops and a cop? The Police that shot at innocent civilians in their blood thirsty man hunt and denied dorner the right to a jury trial by burning him alive? Personally I cant call either side good. Both are corrupt and evil. Therefore no good guys won. The only possible "good guys" were the victims, and I doubt any of them will ever find true justice.
What bugs me is the recent spate of blanket stories by the media about that nut job in Sandy Hook. New stories and re-hashing of stuff that was mis-reported months ago.
If all the victims were shot multiple times with a "long gun" according to the ME, why was it shown being removed from the car that the perpetrator used?
remember - "equal opportunity" and "affirmative action" - all they do is make people hire someone because of skin color.
fact is, most people that call others racists are the real racists.