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PUBLIC OPINION > Obama Would Beat Romney in a Fist Fight

SodaHead News 2012/09/20 19:00:00
The presidential campaign is heating up as the election draws near, and both parties have come out swinging. Fortunately for the candidates, that's just a figure of speech. This isn't the Bolivian House of Commons. But what if the election really did come down to fisticuffs? Could Romney throw a knock-out punch? How is Obama's left hook? We took this all-too-important question to the public. You know, just in case.

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It looks like Obama took this one by a hair, but you know what they say. Close only counts in horseshoes and grenades. And maybe KOs. It would be quite the brawl, to be sure. In Romney's defense, he's definitely the larger man and doesn't have a history of smoking. On the other hand, Obama has proven himself a tough physical competitor on the basketball court.

Repping Your Party

We wanted this to be a fair fight, but based on the political breakdown, it seems most people just went with their party anyway. Few conservatives gave Obama the benefit of the doubt, and even fewer liberals did so for Romney. It's probably not going to happen anytime soon, so it's not like anyone's going to lose a bet here.

Teens Back Obama

Going by age, the youngest voters were much more likely to pick Obama. As voters got older they were less likely to pick the President, until about age 45 when it leveled out completely in favor of Romney. Of course, we have to allow for the possibility that this was also politically-minded, as younger people do tend to vote left.

Men Split the Vote

Men and women often have different attitudes toward violence, and also different perspectives on the relative strength of male competitors. For instance, there are more men interested in boxing and MMA than women. (Though, according to UFC president Dana White, the female audience is catching up.) Men were completely split, but women pushed the vote in Obama's favor.

If you'd like to vote on this question, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion about the topic, visit our poll about an Obama-Romney fist fight. We'd love to hear from you!
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  • Stan Broddy 2012/10/17 22:39:18
    Stan
    But Independents do have the intellectual power to research and fact-check to find the truth when taking a position, so is that too difficult for your limited intellect? OH dear, your now hitting me with your most potent insult -- the old fearful sock-puppet insult. Am I suppose to just wither away after that hit half-wit? If your trying to put me down, it's going to take a hell of a slam harder than that. Oh I see, you need to put me in your little box so that you don't have to feel so threatened? Did I tell you that I love insults, as I have a lot of expertise in playing with those who want to play that game. In fact, I love to play any game you want to play. I would just love to see things from your point of view, but I don't think anybody could get their head that far up your dark place where the sun doesn't shine

    Sometimes I wish I could take my IQ down so I could enjoy your company, but then conservatives were never known to have much intellect, and it is well known that their elevators never reach their top floors. If ignorance is bliss, then why aren't their more happy conservatives? Tell me half-wit, were you born a bigot or did you grow into it? They say, the higher a conservative monkey climbs up a pole, the more one can see what an a$$ they are.









    Conservatism is inco...









    But Independents do have the intellectual power to research and fact-check to find the truth when taking a position, so is that too difficult for your limited intellect? OH dear, your now hitting me with your most potent insult -- the old fearful sock-puppet insult. Am I suppose to just wither away after that hit half-wit? If your trying to put me down, it's going to take a hell of a slam harder than that. Oh I see, you need to put me in your little box so that you don't have to feel so threatened? Did I tell you that I love insults, as I have a lot of expertise in playing with those who want to play that game. In fact, I love to play any game you want to play. I would just love to see things from your point of view, but I don't think anybody could get their head that far up your dark place where the sun doesn't shine

    Sometimes I wish I could take my IQ down so I could enjoy your company, but then conservatives were never known to have much intellect, and it is well known that their elevators never reach their top floors. If ignorance is bliss, then why aren't their more happy conservatives? Tell me half-wit, were you born a bigot or did you grow into it? They say, the higher a conservative monkey climbs up a pole, the more one can see what an a$$ they are.









    Conservatism is incompatible with democracy. prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world. For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy, and the destruction of reason. Conservatisms is the domination of society by an Aristocracy (The filthy Rich). Conservatism is incompatible with democracy and rational thought. They frequently attempt to destroy rational thought, for example, by using language in ways that stand just out of reach of rational debate or rebuttal.

    Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy

    Conservatives do not trust the intellect or the will of the people. Their goal is to subjugate them for the benefit of a small minority of the privileged, while convincing the masses that this is the correct order of things, they have a great dislike for the very idea of equality. Equality you see is a very mischievous and complicated concept for them to handle. If it were not for the Declaration of Independence, it would be long gone by now. Equality is an ideal that contradicts everything they stand for. It is obvious that people do not enjoy matching portions of health, skill, talent, intellect, strong family support, wealth and privilege, and even good will. Because of that, equality loses its practical meaning. Democracy, where each person's vote, value and opinion are equal with everyone else, seems a naive form of government doomed to failure to the hidden agenda of conservatism. It always has. The founders of modern day conservatism make this very clear.

    Simply put, not everyone, as defined by conservatives should have an equal voice, because not everyone should be viewed as equal, and therefore deserving. Conservatism calls for us to surrender to their acknowledged aristocracy of those who have great wealth, leadership abilities, power, and stature. These include conservative politicians, corporate CEOs, the Filthy Rich, some religious leaders who tow the line, and purveyors of local prejudices (Governor Scott Walker, etc.), those who blaspheme the name of freedom by trying to control the thoughts and values of others. We all know them well

    Setting up an aristocracy of power is the central cause of conservatism, despite all the talk about national debt, religion, patriotism, taxes, spending, gun rights, and abortion. These issues are nothing but stepping stones to their goal, and all one has to do is look how these leaders live their lives to verify it (Glenn Beck, Sara Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell, etc.). Their hypocrisy is undeniable, which is why wedge issues never really get resolved. Actions speak louder than words. Their chief concern proven over and over again is to cater to the Filthy Rich and powerful-while making sure that the working people are subserviently supportive of them through DEFICIT PRODUCING TAX CUTS, even against their own interests. Some democracy. When they talk of tradition, this is what they mean. They are harking back to a form of aristocracy rule rooted in the Middle Ages.This is exactly the process by which Corporate fascism or Oligarchy/Plutocracy are created.

    Conservatives are all fundamentalists with a top dressing of chaos and destruction. That is why they are the stupidest of Conservatives, T-Boogers, and reactionary in politics and the most bigoted of obstructionists and domestic terrorists. When it comes to getting their hate on they are all of the same opinion: stop it, lie about it, distort it, obstruct it, flog it, dynamite it, and stamp the truth right out of it.
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  • firozali a mulla 2012/09/23 09:14:35
    firozali a mulla
    Depend on the crowd what do they want jobs streets cleaned change election and voting is crazy I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA
  • Tpem 2012/09/23 04:15:41
    Tpem
    +2
    That skinny Kenyan? No way! Romney KO's the Kenyan in the first.
  • Stan Tpem 2012/09/29 21:31:13
    Stan
    When is Romney going to start, because every time he opens his mouth, he sticks his foot in it?
  • Tpem Stan 2012/10/23 19:04:16
    Tpem
    And OBama Doesn't? Obama has said some of the most stupid things I have ever heard but I guess he is exempt from any fault.
  • Stan Tpem 2012/10/27 13:09:42
    Stan
    Please carry on McDuff, and list all of these stupid things Obama has said so we can compare them with all the Romney/Ryan, and Conservative lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth. Have you ever heard of the names like Todd Akin, and Richard Mourdock?. just asking?????????
  • Tpem Stan 2012/11/07 06:42:59
    Tpem
    It would be an obvious waste of my time. See you in the unemployment line.
  • Stan Tpem 2012/11/07 10:41:35 (edited)
    Stan
    If wasting your time is a problem for you, you should really look at the party, ideology, and policies that you teamed up with. What we learned in the election tonight is that, lies, conspiracy theories, distortions of the truth, dishonesty stealing, hate, radicalism, destruction, and chaos just doesn't work. Moreover, your party's contemptible, fraudulent,, degenerate attempt to disenfranchise American's Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country doesn't work either my little rustic imbecile

    What's the matter hot shot, don't you have any answers? I have been retired for over 16 years now after working for over 30 years, so you will see yourself in the unemployment line. If your unemployed, then thank the people who made you unemployed like the people did tonight by kicking the Republican's butts in the election. You do remember who created this economic abyss or did you get amnesia? Nobody can help you unless you can wake up from this stupor you've been in half-wit.

    “The ever more sophisticated weapons piling up in the arsenals of the wealthiest and the mightiest can kill the illiterate, the ill, the poor and the hungry, but they cannot kill ignorance, illness, poverty or hunger.”

    “The genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the peop...

















    If wasting your time is a problem for you, you should really look at the party, ideology, and policies that you teamed up with. What we learned in the election tonight is that, lies, conspiracy theories, distortions of the truth, dishonesty stealing, hate, radicalism, destruction, and chaos just doesn't work. Moreover, your party's contemptible, fraudulent,, degenerate attempt to disenfranchise American's Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country doesn't work either my little rustic imbecile

    What's the matter hot shot, don't you have any answers? I have been retired for over 16 years now after working for over 30 years, so you will see yourself in the unemployment line. If your unemployed, then thank the people who made you unemployed like the people did tonight by kicking the Republican's butts in the election. You do remember who created this economic abyss or did you get amnesia? Nobody can help you unless you can wake up from this stupor you've been in half-wit.

    “The ever more sophisticated weapons piling up in the arsenals of the wealthiest and the mightiest can kill the illiterate, the ill, the poor and the hungry, but they cannot kill ignorance, illness, poverty or hunger.”

    “The genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the people from ever questioning the inequity of a system where most people drudge along paying heavy taxes for which they get nothing in return.”

    NATURAL BORN JOB KILLERS: REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCT OVER 4.2 MILLION JOBS

    By: Rmuse, July 11th, 2012

    Most human beings appreciate a person who sets a long-term goal and achieves success through honesty, integrity, careful planning, dedication, and single-minded determination to see their final objective reach fruition. There are, of course, some goals that should never be made (Voter Suppression), much less achieved, and world history is replete with examples of profane and dispicable leaders whose goals were not in the best interest of humankind and caused immeasurable damage to a great number of people. On Inauguration night in 2009, Republican leaders gathered to plot the absolute obstruction of President Obama’s economic agenda and thus far, they have been successful much to the suffering, and disappointment of millions of Americans who continue to suffer the effects Republican’s goal of retarding economic recovery and job creation. The GOP makes matters worse by decrying the President’s handling of the economy when the truth is that if they had not blocked, obstructed, filibustered, and stonewalled every one of the President’s plans to improve the jobs and economic picture, the economy would be much closer to achieving a robust recovery.

    The only failure in Republican attempts to totally destroy the economy was their inability to obstruct the President’s stimulus the Congressional Budget Office and several independent agencies claim created over 3.5 million jobs. However, they have made up for that success by refusing to consider President Obama’s American Jobs Act proposed over a year-and-a-half ago, and coupled with severe austerity measures at the state and local level, they have been successful maintaining unemployment at over 8% instead of less-than 6% if they were not intent on obstruction and economic devastation.

    The austerity measures Republicans are implementing have never worked during a recession and despite the abject failure of every European country that enacted austerity, they are hell-bent on following the countries that have no growth and soaring unemployment. Even the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, Willard Romney, admitted that austerity during a recession is disastrous, and yet Republicans have killed over 600,000 public sector jobs that prevented 2.3 million downstream jobs from being created. Coupled with Republican obstruction of the President’s job plan in January 2011, they have effectively prevented 4.2 million Americans from finding good, living wage jobs, or enough to bring the unemployment rate down to 5.5% in a little over a year. Instead of cutting 600,000 teaching, police, firefighter and other public jobs, if states had increased those lost jobs by one-half, the unemployment rate would be under 5% and tax revenue would be up, the deficit would be reduced, and the economy would be humming along.

    Republicans are now claiming that letting the Bush era tax cuts for the rich expire will kill more jobs, but the facts, and history, do not bear out their fallacious assertions. During the Clinton Administration, the wealthy paid 3% more in taxes and the economy added 22-million jobs, wages increased, and businesses boomed. In fact, during the Eisenhower Administration, the wealthy paid nearly 90% in taxes during the time when hundreds of thousands of soldiers returned from World War II, and the infusion of cash created the nation’s highway system, a booming economy, and the great middle class. The GOP knows how to create jobs, but they have no interest in America’s economy, or its people and they must relish the thought of killing jobs and retarding economic growth as they planned in 2009, and will continue throughout 2012.

    There is a tax plan in the Senate proposed by Democrats that gives small businesses a 10% tax cut in exchange for hiring new workers and raising employee’s pay. It also allows businesses to fully deduct the cost of significant investments made in 2012 as an improvement to the current law that caps write-offs at 50%. An independent firm specializing in economic modeling estimates the legislation will add 1 million new jobs to the U.S. economy. The plan should give Republicans wet-knickers for including a tax cut for real small-business job creators in the healthcare, social services, and retail industry, and it passed a test vote in the Senate yesterday. However, because it was a Democratic plan, Republicans insist on loading it with amendments and the Republican-controlled House will surely oppose it because it creates jobs, and not tax cuts for the rich.

    It is a travesty that Republicans hate Americans with such a passion that they deliberately obstructed over 4.2 million jobs, and continue advocating for more tax cuts for the wealthy as they seek out ways to kill more jobs. They have also resisted attempts by the President and Democrats to rescind tax breaks for corporations that ship Americans’ jobs overseas, and there is no telling how low the unemployment rate would be if they did their jobs. However, they have fulfilled their goal of obstructing economic recovery and job creation measures so one can imagine they celebrate every new report that unemployment is stuck at a little over 8% when the reality is if they cared about the economy or the American people it would be under 5%, and that is without letting Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy expire. But that is the Republican Party that cannot compromise, help the American people, or help fix the economy their policies sent to the edge of the abyss. But they still have time to finish the job they started and obstruct America into a deep economic recession which appears to be their true plan that began in 2001 and should reach fruition by December 2012 when the Mayans predicted the world comes to an end. Unfortunately for millions of unemployed Americans, their world ended when Republicans deliberately killed their jobs and obstructed every single attempt to restore them and it appears they still have not achieved their ultimate goal of destroying the economy to make room for more tax cuts for their precious, imaginary “job creators.”

    What does it take to wake up an entire party of Republican gaping primates?
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  • Tpem Stan 2012/11/07 17:20:13
    Tpem
    Yata, Yata, Yata Hot Shot! Yes my answer is that people like you are giving away a once great nation. Check the morning news genius. The US markets are in a free fall with the dow dropping over 300 points already. We will see how you like things in the weeks to come not to mention in four years.
  • Stan Tpem 2012/11/15 11:34:37
    Stan
    I'm sorry, was it something I said? Please continue your diatribe about people like me giving away a once great nation as it would be an enormously titillating debate subject. The markets did go down, but what they went down for was the concern over the coming economic cliff the country will deal with come January 3rd of 2013. You see Bubba, I also check the market and read the real facts as to why the market went down.

    I understand that you would like to pretend it was because the Republicans, Romney and Ryan got bitch-slapped in the election. So the people of this country won, and now you think the country is toast? By the way, what the hell is "Traditional America" that Fox News (An oxymoron as they just make up the news.) and Rush Limbaugh keep screaming about? Are these the angry white Americans who use to be in control who are now becoming the minority ethnicity?

    It has been the laugh of a lifetime to see all of the Republicans going into cardiac arrest over losing this election and struck ignorant by not understanding why? Gosh, I guess it never got past their brain-stems that if you declare war on every major voting group in this country, and then are surprised when they don't vote for you, it's an unsuspected revelation when they revolt? Another thing that didn't get pa...





    I'm sorry, was it something I said? Please continue your diatribe about people like me giving away a once great nation as it would be an enormously titillating debate subject. The markets did go down, but what they went down for was the concern over the coming economic cliff the country will deal with come January 3rd of 2013. You see Bubba, I also check the market and read the real facts as to why the market went down.

    I understand that you would like to pretend it was because the Republicans, Romney and Ryan got bitch-slapped in the election. So the people of this country won, and now you think the country is toast? By the way, what the hell is "Traditional America" that Fox News (An oxymoron as they just make up the news.) and Rush Limbaugh keep screaming about? Are these the angry white Americans who use to be in control who are now becoming the minority ethnicity?

    It has been the laugh of a lifetime to see all of the Republicans going into cardiac arrest over losing this election and struck ignorant by not understanding why? Gosh, I guess it never got past their brain-stems that if you declare war on every major voting group in this country, and then are surprised when they don't vote for you, it's an unsuspected revelation when they revolt? Another thing that didn't get past your maggot's brain stems is when you disenfranchise the people's Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country, don't be surprised that people came out of the woodwork to vote and stand in line for 7 to 8 hours to do it. Republicans have done a lot of stupid things, but their ignorance and stupidity even surprised me.

    I guess you gaping primates are just going to have to get use to a country dynamic that is changing right before your sightless eyes. We only have so much tolerance for your group's physiological or temperamental retarded peculiarity. Your obsessed with with Death Panels, The Birther Delusion, Conspiracy Theories, Voter Fraud, and Denial half-wit. Your group of gaping primates need to get back in touch with the fact-based world --EVOLUTION, SCIENCE, GLOBAL WARMING, AND REALITY. Frothing at the mouth is going to get you anywhere.

    Within a week, the Republicans, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh still don't get it, and are back saying the same ignorant crap that got them in this mess to begin with. In case you Neanderthals didn't notice --YOU LOST -- and the people have spoken what they want. Of course your group is still under the delusion that Traditional America ( Whatever that is? The past) no longer exists as we have moved on and evolved.

    Leaders who do not act ideologically, but insist on imposing their decisions, do not organize the people -- they manipulate them. They do not liberate, nor are they liberated: they oppress. It is not power that corrupts but fear. Republican's fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it. In every age there has been tyrants, the oppressors and the exploiters who have wrapped themselves in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overwhelm the people, but not in this election. They rule by fraud, and by fraud eventually acquire access to the tools they need to finish the job of killing off the Constitution -- BUT NOT IN THIS ELECTION.
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  • Tpem Stan 2012/11/19 00:26:50
    Tpem
    You show your ignorance when you generalize about someones politics. I was actually happy Romney got bitch slapped though I was less happy Obama won the election. At some point people will have to understand that elections are more than a sporting event. Nothing either Obama or Romney would do would be good for this country. they are party government establishment players who do what they are told and they both work for the rich. That is the way it is, was and always will be. Our government is broke and everyone wants to keep playing the same old game. Both sides want more control over us and there seems to be nothing we can do about it.
  • Stan Tpem 2012/11/21 10:49:07
    Stan
    What do you think I generalized about YOUR politics half-wit, as I can get real specific real fast if you would like? Sometimes you get what you ask for maggot, and then sometimes you don't, but don't worry, Obama's blackness will not rub off on you. Funny how when your candidate falls down, how all of you little mice jump ship. Well if elections are more sporting events what do you feel happened sport, as most of our citizen's team won hands down? Why is it you gaping primates are never happy, after all you maggots elected him as your candidate?

    So tell me my little mental midget, what in your estimation would be good for this country? How is Obama working for the rich as most of his campaign donations came from the people? Why don't you just present the facts that back up your conspiracy theory? Betcha can't? So show the facts of all the Obama rich donors, and if he had so many rich people behind him, why did he need all of the common people doing all of the ground work for him? I love how you cretins always engage your mouth before engaging your brain.

    But why is our government broke, and how did it get that way or aren't you into the fact-based world? Why is it that creeps like you always pander to the lowest common denominator or ignorance? What specific control do the Demo...



    What do you think I generalized about YOUR politics half-wit, as I can get real specific real fast if you would like? Sometimes you get what you ask for maggot, and then sometimes you don't, but don't worry, Obama's blackness will not rub off on you. Funny how when your candidate falls down, how all of you little mice jump ship. Well if elections are more sporting events what do you feel happened sport, as most of our citizen's team won hands down? Why is it you gaping primates are never happy, after all you maggots elected him as your candidate?

    So tell me my little mental midget, what in your estimation would be good for this country? How is Obama working for the rich as most of his campaign donations came from the people? Why don't you just present the facts that back up your conspiracy theory? Betcha can't? So show the facts of all the Obama rich donors, and if he had so many rich people behind him, why did he need all of the common people doing all of the ground work for him? I love how you cretins always engage your mouth before engaging your brain.

    But why is our government broke, and how did it get that way or aren't you into the fact-based world? Why is it that creeps like you always pander to the lowest common denominator or ignorance? What specific control do the Democrats want over you Bubba, and how long have you had this delusion? Please, I love it when you go into your alternate universe? And in a previous posting you exclaimed:

    "That skinny Kenyan? No way! Romney KO's the Kenyan in the first."

    Now your saying your glad Romney lost, so which is it moron? Do your ears ever here what your mouth says? You really shouldn't let your brain wander half-wit. It's much too small to be let out on its own. Boy, with you, some village must be missing its idiot.
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  • janet 2012/09/23 03:32:29
    janet
    +5
    Pointless question XD
  • Jon Peter 2012/09/23 03:30:02
    Jon Peter
    +4
    Stupid question.
  • nofrills 2012/09/23 03:21:31
    nofrills
    +3
    This election is going to expose one of the big flaws in the Cloward & Piven strategy, the fact that they didn't truly understand the American people. If you overload an unprepared nation you can then replace the govt. If you overload the United States, we the people will fight back. Obama has done enough to trigger the knee jerk reaction in the people and he will get kicked out of office. I think the coming generations will become more aware of the dangers of overspending and diminished liberties, and strengthen the values of responsibility and freedom.
    Romney will win fist fight ..he got the courage and the love to fight what is dearest to his heart AMERICA...and obama will squeal like...a
  • Stan nofrills 2012/09/29 21:32:44
    Stan
    So far, your group is looking like a bunch of inept clowns!
  • nofrills Stan 2012/09/30 02:59:35
    nofrills
    inept is the right word to describe obama...
  • Margaret Jacobson 2012/09/23 03:14:49
    Margaret Jacobson
    Probably !! I know that I could HOPEFULLY OUT WALK ROMNEY AND OBAMA ?? I am REALLY GLAD THAT PHYSICAL STRENGTH DOESN't FOR MUCH ??
  • nofrills 2012/09/23 02:22:04
    nofrills
    +1
    This election is going to expose one of the big flaws in the Cloward & Piven strategy, the fact that they didn't truly understand the American people. If you overload an unprepared nation you can then replace the govt. If you overload the United States, we the people will fight back. Obama has done enough to trigger the knee jerk reaction in the people and he will get kicked out of office. I think the coming generations will become more aware of the dangers of overspending and diminished liberties, and strengthen the values of responsibility and freedom.
    GOMITTFORPOTUS.
  • dave.tweedy.3 2012/09/23 00:55:50
    dave.tweedy.3
    +2
    For a guy who snorted coke off the d*cks of countless men, I doubt Barack Hussien could fight off a 65 yo woman..
  • Jeff King 2012/09/22 23:49:10 (edited)
  • marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS 2012/09/22 22:19:16
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +2
    0WEbama is left handed and the majority of lefties can't fight very well.
  • paul marcuss... 2012/09/22 22:26:38
    paul
    +1
    Rocky's left handed.
  • marcuss... paul 2012/09/22 22:33:25
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    The movie boxer. Now come back to reality.
  • paul marcuss... 2012/09/22 22:44:58
    paul
    +2
    We're talking about a hypothetical fist fight between two presidential candidates. I think a little straying from reality is within bounds.
  • my2cents paul 2012/09/25 04:18:51
    my2cents
    Good point.
  • rushPUB... marcuss... 2012/09/23 15:59:52
    rushPUBIKkklans Suck
    +1
    "Being NATURALLY left-handed is a very big advantage in the world of boxing and fighting in general." Expertboxing.com

    Reality EVADES rushPUBIKkklans every second of every day.

    111
  • Stan marcuss... 2012/09/29 21:38:44
    Stan
    Obama sure seems to be handing your groups butt to you on a golden platter. Moreover, Romney thinks people like you are lazy, worthless, and are takers, so insulting his own followers seems to be his favorite game. Is your group really that slow or intellectually vacant as you keep showing you are?
  • marcuss... Stan 2012/09/30 00:30:31
  • Stan marcuss... 2012/10/11 12:23:00
  • marcuss... Stan 2012/10/11 13:35:31 (edited)
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    You are collecting social security so you are getting a piece of my weekly paycheck. You just proved your idiocy by attacking my family lick bag. When a LWNJ attacks someone's family they have run out of lies.
  • Stan marcuss... 2012/10/17 22:47:23
    Stan
    Aw is somebody having a tantrum, or was it something I said? Don't worry you gaping primate. the pain will wear off eventually. And could you put a little more of your weekly paycheck in as I need a pay-raise? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. I didn't know that you were the only one paying into the coffers of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, because I remember paying into it for over 30 years. Looks like I'm just paying myself back half-wit.
  • marcuss... Stan 2012/10/18 00:14:25 (edited)
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    You wont ever get a COLA raise as long as 0WEbama is in office. You will still vote against your best interests. That's why you LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS. See he has to fundamentally change your way of life so he has more control over you.
  • Stan marcuss... 2012/10/18 09:29:09
    Stan
    I don't want a COLA raise half-wit, I want it to come right out of your weekly paycheck. What do you call in my best interests Neanderthal, The Romney ideology that hates the 47% and all of us war veterans such as myself. Let me see if I can follow your logic? We should follow the Bush policies on steroids that created this economic abyss? That is like shooting yourself in the foot, and losing that foot, and then believing if you just shoot yourself in the other foot, then you will grow two new feet. That lunatic is called the very definition of CRAZY! Sorry half-wit, I didn't fight in a war to have this gaping primate repeat the same failed policies that created this economic abyss in the first place. We had 8 years of Bush, and look where that got us? So that is what your calling my best interest?

    I know you poor simple minded half-wit, Liberals, Progressives and left leaning Independents like me just drives you nuts. Here is what has fundamentally changed me:

    NATURAL BORN JOB KILLERS: REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCT OVER 4.2 MILLION JOBS

    By: Rmuse, 
July 11th, 2012



    Most human beings appreciate a person who sets a long-term goal and achieves success through honesty, integrity, careful planning, dedication, and single-minded determination to see their final objective reach fruition....










































































































    I don't want a COLA raise half-wit, I want it to come right out of your weekly paycheck. What do you call in my best interests Neanderthal, The Romney ideology that hates the 47% and all of us war veterans such as myself. Let me see if I can follow your logic? We should follow the Bush policies on steroids that created this economic abyss? That is like shooting yourself in the foot, and losing that foot, and then believing if you just shoot yourself in the other foot, then you will grow two new feet. That lunatic is called the very definition of CRAZY! Sorry half-wit, I didn't fight in a war to have this gaping primate repeat the same failed policies that created this economic abyss in the first place. We had 8 years of Bush, and look where that got us? So that is what your calling my best interest?

    I know you poor simple minded half-wit, Liberals, Progressives and left leaning Independents like me just drives you nuts. Here is what has fundamentally changed me:

    NATURAL BORN JOB KILLERS: REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCT OVER 4.2 MILLION JOBS

    By: Rmuse, 
July 11th, 2012



    Most human beings appreciate a person who sets a long-term goal and achieves success through honesty, integrity, careful planning, dedication, and single-minded determination to see their final objective reach fruition. There are, of course, some goals that should never be made (Voter Suppression), much less achieved, and world history is replete with examples of profane and dispicable leaders whose goals were not in the best interest of humankind and caused immeasurable damage to a great number of people. On Inauguration night in 2009, Republican leaders gathered to plot the absolute obstruction of President Obama’s economic agenda and thus far, they have been successful much to the suffering, and disappointment of millions of Americans who continue to suffer the effects Republican’s goal of retarding economic recovery and job creation. The GOP makes matters worse by decrying the President’s handling of the economy when the truth is that if they had not blocked, obstructed, filibustered, and stonewalled every one of the President’s plans to improve the jobs and economic picture, the economy would be much closer to achieving a robust recovery.



    The only failure in Republican attempts to totally destroy the economy was their inability to obstruct the President’s stimulus the Congressional Budget Office and several independent agencies claim created over 3.5 million jobs. However, they have made up for that success by refusing to consider President Obama’s American Jobs Act proposed over a year-and-a-half ago, and coupled with severe austerity measures at the state and local level, they have been successful maintaining unemployment at over 8% instead of less-than 6% if they were not intent on obstruction and economic devastation.



    The austerity measures Republicans are implementing have never worked during a recession and despite the abject failure of every European country that enacted austerity, they are hell-bent on following the countries that have no growth and soaring unemployment. Even the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, Willard Romney, admitted that austerity during a recession is disastrous, and yet Republicans have killed over 600,000 public sector jobs that prevented 2.3 million downstream jobs from being created. Coupled with Republican obstruction of the President’s job plan in January 2011, they have effectively prevented 4.2 million Americans from finding good, living wage jobs, or enough to bring the unemployment rate down to 5.5% in a little over a year. Instead of cutting 600,000 teaching, police, firefighter and other public jobs, if states had increased those lost jobs by one-half, the unemployment rate would be under 5% and tax revenue would be up, the deficit would be reduced, and the economy would be humming along.



    Republicans are now claiming that letting the Bush era tax cuts for the rich expire will kill more jobs, but the facts, and history, do not bear out their fallacious assertions. During the Clinton Administration, the wealthy paid 3% more in taxes and the economy added 22-million jobs, wages increased, and businesses boomed. In fact, during the Eisenhower Administration, the wealthy paid nearly 90% in taxes during the time when hundreds of thousands of soldiers returned from World War II, and the infusion of cash created the nation’s highway system, a booming economy, and the great middle class. The GOP knows how to create jobs, but they have no interest in America’s economy, or its people and they must relish the thought of killing jobs and retarding economic growth as they planned in 2009, and will continue throughout 2012.



    There is a tax plan in the Senate proposed by Democrats that gives small businesses a 10% tax cut in exchange for hiring new workers and raising employee’s pay. It also allows businesses to fully deduct the cost of significant investments made in 2012 as an improvement to the current law that caps write-offs at 50%. An independent firm specializing in economic modeling estimates the legislation will add 1 million new jobs to the U.S. economy. The plan should give Republicans wet-knickers for including a tax cut for real small-business job creators in the healthcare, social services, and retail industry, and it passed a test vote in the Senate yesterday. However, because it was a Democratic plan, Republicans insist on loading it with amendments and the Republican-controlled House will surely oppose it because it creates jobs, and not tax cuts for the rich.



    It is a travesty that Republicans hate Americans with such a passion that they deliberately obstructed over 4.2 million jobs, and continue advocating for more tax cuts for the wealthy as they seek out ways to kill more jobs. They have also resisted attempts by the President and Democrats to rescind tax breaks for corporations that ship Americans’ jobs overseas, and there is no telling how low the unemployment rate would be if they did their jobs. However, they have fulfilled their goal of obstructing economic recovery and job creation measures so one can imagine they celebrate every new report that unemployment is stuck at a little over 8% when the reality is if they cared about the economy or the American people it would be under 5%, and that is without letting Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy expire. But that is the Republican Party that cannot compromise, help the American people, or help fix the economy their policies sent to the edge of the abyss. But they still have time to finish the job they started and obstruct America into a deep economic recession which appears to be their true plan that began in 2001 and should reach fruition by December 2012 when the Mayans predicted the world comes to an end. Unfortunately for millions of unemployed Americans, their world ended when Republicans deliberately killed their jobs and obstructed every single attempt to restore them and it appears they still have not achieved their ultimate goal of destroying the economy to make room for more tax cuts for their precious, imaginary “job creators.”

    GOP JOB OBSTRUCTION TO KEEP ECONOMY FROM IMPROVING
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    MITT ROMNEY'S HILARIOUS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!
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    ROMNEY'S TAX POLICIES INCREASES TAXES ON THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES WHILE GIVING MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO THEIR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTERS.
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    ROMNEY CAMPAIGN PRAISED TAX POLICY CENTER THAT THEY NOW CALL "BIASED AND LIBERAL
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    The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don't read anything

    Conservative politics... have always been the systematic organization of hatreds.

    RIGHT WING HATE GROUPS AND EXTREMISTS
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    Would you like to tell me again where my best interests are??????????
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  • marcuss... Stan 2012/10/18 20:04:52
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    WOW! Thanks for the BIASED links to back up your 10 page rant of insanity.

    I prefer a financial genius as president and you prefer a PROVEN IDIOT who has never held a job in the private sector. Lets just leave it at that.
  • Stan marcuss... 2012/10/22 10:46:10
    Stan
    Your welcome. But then anything that conflicts with your lies, conspiracy theories are called biased aren't they? Tell me what you feel is insane about them and we can debate that also as I love the challenge? It really is a bitch trying to find nonexistent facts for all of your conservative lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth?. The proof is that you never seem to be able to rebut or prove any of the material I give you as a lie or is untruth? Why is that half-wit? That's the hard part for you with recorded history, unless you can go back in time and rewrite history, your screwed you rustic imbecile.

    If your looking for a candidate with financial genius, why in the hell did you pick Romney and Ryan, as they can't even make the numbers add up in their own budget, and Romney flip-flops on the same subjects three times a day. Is he a little slow? His advisers have to come back at the end of the day to explain what he really means! That sounds more like a person whose elevator is not making it to his top floors.

    ROMNEY'S TAX POLICIES INCREASES TAXES ON THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES WHILE GIVING MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO THEIR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTERS.
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    Your welcome. But then anything that conflicts with your lies, conspiracy theories are called biased aren't they? Tell me what you feel is insane about them and we can debate that also as I love the challenge? It really is a bitch trying to find nonexistent facts for all of your conservative lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth?. The proof is that you never seem to be able to rebut or prove any of the material I give you as a lie or is untruth? Why is that half-wit? That's the hard part for you with recorded history, unless you can go back in time and rewrite history, your screwed you rustic imbecile.

    If your looking for a candidate with financial genius, why in the hell did you pick Romney and Ryan, as they can't even make the numbers add up in their own budget, and Romney flip-flops on the same subjects three times a day. Is he a little slow? His advisers have to come back at the end of the day to explain what he really means! That sounds more like a person whose elevator is not making it to his top floors.

    ROMNEY'S TAX POLICIES INCREASES TAXES ON THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES WHILE GIVING MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO THEIR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTERS.
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    ROMNEY CAMPAIGN PRAISED TAX POLICY CENTER THAT THEY NOW CALL "BIASED AND LIBERAL
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    Would you like To try and explain where the financial genius part is with these two? I would love to see your facts, truth and reality that Obama is a "PROVEN IDIOT, as he is the one who stopped the country from falling into another Great Depression from your group of maggots who created this economic abyss. So what did your group of gaping primates ever do to help their country, or the American people to fix this economic abyss they created? And while your at it please tell me what all of these DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO YOUR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC LEADERS did to help fix the economy, cut spending, create jobs, or reduce the national debt, after all, isn't that the promise your group of maggots made in the election of 2010 if we would vote for them? Another lie your group made. Do you always engage your mouth before engaging your brain? No, let's not just leave it at that as you haven't provided anything that backs your lies, and I have so much more education for you.

    WHAT WILL THE PAUL RYAN PLAN DO TO THE ECONOMY
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    Falsehood is cowardice, the truth is courage.

    Your education is learning what you didn't even know what you don't know.

    Fraud is falsehood that only dreads inquiry, while truth encourages it.

    We must always think about things, but we must think about things as they really are, and not what Conservatives have made them up to be.

    One can observe the real Conservative agenda not by what they say, but by just watching what they do.

    I am not even close to being through, as I want to debate you using facts, truth, reality, and the actual recorded history, as you're a complete flop just using lies, conspiracy theories, and distortion of the truth. There are just no facts for lies, conspiracy theories, and that really puts you at a distinct unfair disadvantage.
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  • Robin B 2012/09/22 21:26:35
    Robin B
    +1
    Oblowme would because he would have his big ass wife fight for him while he was sucking up to some homosexual illegal.
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/09/22 20:40:17
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    +2
    My bet would be Romney to win.
  • rushPUB... Phyl *I... 2012/09/23 16:00:24
    rushPUBIKkklans Suck
    +1
    Got 10 grand to throw on it?
  • Phyl *I... rushPUB... 2012/10/17 05:15:27
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    +1
    Bama would not fight.He would have some one eles do it. I wont wast my money on it.

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