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PUBLIC OPINION > It's Not OK to Handcuff Kids

SodaHead News 2012/04/20 13:00:00
The parents of 6-year-old Salecia Johnson were shocked to find out that their child had been handcuffed and hauled off to jail on Tuesday. According to The Associated Press, while at school she "threw a small shelf that struck the principal in the leg, and jumped on a paper shredder and tried to break a glass frame." At some point administrators called the cops, and when the officer couldn't calm her down he put her in cuffs and took her to the station. This story has "controversy" written all over it, so you know we asked the public.

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Sure enough, the results are just shy of a split decision. Overall, the voters decided against it by a margin of 10%, but there was more than enough support to get a toasty debate going. The real issue seemed to be whether there were any other options available. Those who voted in favor of the cuffing assumed there must have been good cause; those who voted against it assumed it was an overreaction. Some blamed the parents for not teaching her to behave in the first place; others wondered what the school did to cause the tantrum. There were a lot of angles.

Teens Think It's Terrible

Voters closest in age to the girl were most likely to oppose the officer's use of handcuffs. Maybe it's a little scary to realize just how vulnerable they could be if they don't act right. If a 6-year-old can get the cuffs, they're certainly not immune. Plus, they probably remember what it was like to be six a little better.

Parents Weigh Their Options

You might think parents would be more defensive, but they were actually more supportive than most. Along with voters who don't want kids at all, parents were split down the middle. However, voters who want kids someday were much less supportive. They don't know what they're in for.

Liberals Don't Like It

Yes, of course there was a political element to this. It actually wasn't as pronounced as it could have been, but conservatives were two times as likely as liberals to condone the use of handcuffs in this instance. Right-leaning voters frequently pointed out that handcuffs are merely a restraint, and not physically damaging. At least they didn't tase her.

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  • fluer 2012/04/20 17:00:46
    fluer
    +16
    As a teacher who has had students out of control I can only assume this child was really out there badly. In the last 8 years we have only had to call the police one time and in that case they did haul the kiddo off to jail I think in cuffs. I guess they could have put her in a jacket, but if you stop and consider that she had already shown the inclination to injure and then destroy property could they let her go until she calmed down and potentially risk injury to another student or more property damage? Kiddo needed to be stopped to protect the rest of her peers and the staff from her destructive behavior. Do I like to consider this no, but in the real world where no one from the school can lay a hand on her without facing the very real possibility of a lawsuit the options are limited. Kiddo needs help but she also needs to learn there are consequences to actions. Sad all the way around.

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  • twhitin... ronbo 2012/04/20 18:31:37
    twhiting9275
    There's a fine line between abuse and discipline.
    You can still discipline a child, just not physically. Hit them where it hurts.
    Put them on timeout, stand them in the corner. Take away their precious items (cell phone, internet, television, gaming console, computer, etc). They'll come back from that ledge pretty damn quick.

    I'm actually all FOR removal of physical discipline. it's unnecessary, and it doesn't do anything positive at all. Then again, maybe that's because I was one of those 'abused children' (literally). There's other ways to address problems that don't require violence.
  • Aingean twhitin... 2012/04/21 11:45:23
    Aingean
    There is a fine line but sometimes it is all the works. It all depends on the child. My parents would spank me and my sister more then my brother because he was less hard headed and only had to be told once to knock it off. As we got older things like taking prviledges worked most of the time. But younger kids 2-4 ( generally the age where they start trying to test parents ) taking stuff away they wont understand, they just know that you took it and they are mad now so they are going to act worse because they want that toy.

    I take toys from my son when he throws them. That is the only time I take them. If he does something like hit the dogs or something else that is dangerous to him or can hurt someone else he gets a swat on the butt and I will tell him " no that isn't nice, you will..." either hurt who ever or you will get hurt, it isn't nice to be that way to nala you will make her mean ext. He rarely behaves that way because he knows it is bad.. Sad that he is almost 3 and much more behaved then this 6 year old.
  • Mean Mommy twhitin... 2012/04/21 16:17:59
    Mean Mommy
    +1
    they all need to be held accountable!
  • ordman 2012/04/20 17:18:19
    ordman
    +7
    Taken from http://www.ibtimes.com:
    Salecia was taken in the back of a patrol car and charged with simple battery and damage to property, the station reported. Salecia's father, Earnest Johnson, was livid over the incident. "A 6-year-old in kindergarten. They don't have no business calling the police and handcuffing my child," he said.
    Mr. Johnson if you had taught your Salecia a little about respect and instilled a bit discipline in her then maybe everyone else involved in her Tantrum wouldn’t have been forced into taking the action that they did. Hopefully this can be a teaching moment for Salecia as well as for you.
  • Mean Mommy ordman 2012/04/21 16:20:25
    Mean Mommy
    WELL PUT! Accountability for your actions!
  • Inquisitve Kat 2012/04/20 17:04:23 (edited)
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    "Right-leaning voters frequently pointed out that handcuffs are merely a restraint, and not physically damaging." - although I don't think it was inappropriate for the child to be handcuffed in this instance, it's funny how right-leaning voters often neglect the idea that things may also be psychologically damaging.
  • smitty Inquisi... 2012/04/20 17:32:21
    smitty
    +2
    "while at school she "threw a small shelf that struck the principal in the leg, and jumped on a paper shredder and tried to break a glass frame" my guess she is already psychologically damaged, but that's okay.. I forgive you.
  • Inquisi... smitty 2012/04/20 20:07:35
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    Oh crap... I must edit my original comment. It should read "although I DON'T think it was inappropriate for the child to be handcuffed in this instance"... that was a typo.
  • Faith ~... Inquisi... 2012/04/20 17:54:33
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +6
    What else could they do? She was hurting other people, and could have hurt herself. You don't think is was psychologically damaging for the other kids to be hurt and watch this little nut lose it? She acted like a delinquent so she got treated like one.
  • Inquisi... Faith ~... 2012/04/20 20:09:09
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    Re-reading what I wrote, I see your point... my original post had a typo. I have corrected it to read what I meant "although I DON'T think it was inappropriate in this instance".
  • shenendoah 2012/04/20 17:00:51
    shenendoah
    +1
    Whatever works. Kids think they are immune to punishment because of their age. However no rubber hoses or tasers for ones so young. TIC
  • fluer 2012/04/20 17:00:46
    fluer
    +16
    As a teacher who has had students out of control I can only assume this child was really out there badly. In the last 8 years we have only had to call the police one time and in that case they did haul the kiddo off to jail I think in cuffs. I guess they could have put her in a jacket, but if you stop and consider that she had already shown the inclination to injure and then destroy property could they let her go until she calmed down and potentially risk injury to another student or more property damage? Kiddo needed to be stopped to protect the rest of her peers and the staff from her destructive behavior. Do I like to consider this no, but in the real world where no one from the school can lay a hand on her without facing the very real possibility of a lawsuit the options are limited. Kiddo needs help but she also needs to learn there are consequences to actions. Sad all the way around.
  • Inquisi... fluer 2012/04/20 17:07:35
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    I'm inclined to agree with you, but does the kid necessarily need help? I, too, have a lot of experience working with children and it seems that sometimes, children that age just have a bit of a breakdown and completely lose it... children who may otherwise act normal. I agree that handcuffing was probably one of the few things they actually could do, so I'm not against that... I'm just wondering why everyone is assuming the child is normally a problem child.
  • fluer Inquisi... 2012/04/20 17:15:10
    fluer
    +1
    I don't know that but if her anger control is so lax that she can get to the point of causing injury and property destruction then I would say she needs some help. In behavior management classes they teach you to step in early and stop the problem from further expanding. Nip it in the bud so to speak. I don't know what created this monster, but to deal with it they need to recognize that this behavior needs to be addressed even if it is the first occurance.
  • actionjksn Inquisi... 2012/05/15 15:51:21
    actionjksn
    Because there is probably about a 99.9% chance that the little monster "is normally a problem child" And her parents are probably very quick to comply with her or it. Don't be surprised if it ends up seriously hurting somebody.
  • Inquisi... actionjksn 2012/05/16 06:15:32
    Inquisitve Kat
    Perhaps... but, like I said, I've seen good kids have meltdowns like that. Hell, when I was in kindergarten my mother had to come pick me up one day because I had a meltdown and freaked the hell out of the teacher, and I was definitely not a problem child. Mind you, if this sort of behaviour is typical for her, then I agree entirely that the kid needs professional help (and probably the parents, too).
  • actionjksn Inquisi... 2012/05/16 14:07:22
    actionjksn
    +1
    Yeah I see what you mean. But I think this kid did something that was not just a meltdown it seemed to be of a very violent nature. I think most elementary school teachers and the cops would consider cuffs as a last resort. Bear in mind I'm not even a big fan of the cops or our public education system. I know I really wasn't exactly a good boy but I didn't dare show my ass in front of the teachers. Because I knew I would have to face my mom and even worse my dad. That would not have ended well for me. I'm sure this kid knew that the parents would not be a problem. But she probably didn't expect the cops, handcuffs and jail HA HA.
  • Inquisi... actionjksn 2012/05/16 18:45:40
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    Oh, I wasn't against the cuffs... I don't think they had a choice. :-)
  • smitty fluer 2012/04/20 17:36:34
    smitty
    +3
    My wife a couple weeks had a dare officer come up and handcuff one of her kids and haul his butt off to jail. He comes back next week. He said he was going to kill her. So much for zero tolerance.

    Many of these kids have no respect for anything. They imitate their parents or lack thereof.
  • fluer smitty 2012/04/20 18:05:36
    fluer
    +3
    The kiddo we had to call the cops on bought a pellet gun to school and shot at his teacher in her car. Then he proceeded to kick anyone and bite anyone who came near. It tok two cops to get his subdued enough to even cuff him. I was so afraid they would taze him though. That would be worse yet with no discipline they see no consequences and the behavior manifests profoundly into more and more behaviors.
  • smitty fluer 2012/04/20 18:10:41
    smitty
    +1
    I find it amazing even though I see it almost weekly. My wife teaches middle school. These kids have no passion or drive. The parents (if they have any) don't care or no longer try to do anything. One of them didn't do his homework assignment because he was up playing pool at the bar until 2:30.

    She had one yell I don't give a f$%^ what you say. Once my f$%^$%^ grandma hears about this she will have your f$%$^45 a#$ fired. This is front of the others kids. I told her once that is why I am not a teacher, I would have made that kid a permanent fixture in the wall.

    Still for the 10 or so idiots she has... There is that one child in the class that makes her as proud of her as her own kids do.
  • fluer smitty 2012/04/20 18:13:48
    fluer
    +1
    You know those special kiddos make all the other things we face fade and it makes your soul smile when a kiddo truly get it and lights up! This is why we teach. The side trash we go through just is not enough to give up the innate joy when your kiddos do well and you know you honestly helped them.
  • smitty fluer 2012/04/20 18:31:29
    smitty
    +1
    It takes a special person to be a teacher. I could never do it. Kudos to you.
  • fluer smitty 2012/04/20 19:25:51
    fluer
    +1
    I love it in spite of the bad press and all the problems it has its own reward.
  • Inquisi... smitty 2012/05/16 18:48:14 (edited)
    Inquisitve Kat
    I think kids need to be offered more severe punishments. My ex-wife's daughter is turning 19 in June and will probably be going to jail for awhile... she should have been in jail four years ago, but all she ever got was a night in a holding cell and a mild probation.
  • smitty Inquisi... 2012/05/16 19:19:49
    smitty
    +1
    It all depends on the situation.
  • Inquisi... smitty 2012/05/16 19:33:28
  • smitty Inquisi... 2012/05/16 19:36:04
    smitty
    +1
    Yup.. I would agree.
  • Cal fluer 2012/04/20 17:48:34
    Cal
    +1
    Exactly. Great post.
  • strange_armour 2012/04/20 16:56:23
  • hasher 2012/04/20 16:50:29
    hasher
    +2
    it depend on how violent the kid is. it sounds like she was hard to control there fore i could seewhy they did it. if a kid is out of control and wont cooperate then it may be neccessary to do that.
  • SoCal71 2012/04/20 16:49:22
    SoCal71
    +8
    Before anyone (liberals) starts blaming school officials, It's not the responsibility of the school system to babysit. They are there to educate. If your child is being disruptive to the point of causing damage and the police need to be called, don't complain when your child is placed in handcuffs. If I were a parent at that school. I would push for expulsion of that student. We need to set examples for our children and not reward bad behavior.

    There are juvenile institutions that deal with children like her everyday in America. No need to burden the other students over one bad apple.
  • ducdodger 2012/04/20 16:41:04
    ducdodger
    +3
    If the parents of this child would have taught her right she wouldnt have been had to be put in cuffs in the first place. This sounds like she was cuffed for her safety and to prevent her from hurting herself or others.
  • Prime Time Lime 2012/04/20 16:36:47
    Prime Time Lime
    I find it interesting that police are trained to negotiate with,kidnappers,thugs,carjackers and the like,but cannot effectively talk a child out of a tantrum without handcuffs. I would say laziness in one's duty and non caring caused this situation to happen.
  • Adam Prime T... 2012/04/20 17:45:10
    Adam
    +1
    You know what the policy is for someone that is taking pop shots at random? Take them out. You can negotiate with someone who isn't in current engagement of violence. You can't negotiate with an active violent perpetrator.
  • smitty Prime T... 2012/04/20 18:05:03 (edited)
    smitty
    +1
    Do you have kids? Have you ever been able to talk one out of a tantrum?

    I wouldn't care if your child destroyed your house. Having someone child destroy my childs school is inexcusable.
  • Opinionated-Conservative 2012/04/20 16:33:47
    Opinionated-Conservative
    +1
    I am disgusted by the thought of someone handcuffing a child, I would be embarrassed if I was a police officer and I decided I needed to handcuff a child, how are you going to get through the regulars of your job if you can't even control a child????
  • shenendoah Opinion... 2012/04/20 17:05:59 (edited)
    shenendoah
    +3
    Well, I guess there are alternatives like a taser or a night stick.
  • smitty Opinion... 2012/04/20 17:38:27
    smitty
    +3
    What do we do continue to let the child break everything. I am sure you wouldn;t mind paying for everything she broke, right?

    Maybe we could sing lullabys with her or give her ice cream.
  • Faith ~... Opinion... 2012/04/20 17:57:28
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +3
    What exactly was their other option? They did it for her own protection as much as everyone else's. Should they have just thrown her in a straight jacket to calm her down instead?

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