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PUBLIC OPINION > Insourcing Could Bring Back Jobs

News 2012/02/17 14:00:00
With unemployment still in the red zone, outsourcing is a major part of the political debate. Why are companies like Apple employing thousands of manufacturers overseas when Americans need jobs? For many companies, it's the bottom line. That's why President Obama is trying to pull back jobs by removing tax breaks for outsourcing and offering incentives to businesses who put Americans first and bring the jobs back home. It would mean more spending, but if it means higher rates of employment, it could be worth it. We asked SodaHeads if they thought "insourcing" through incentives will work.

Will 'Insourcing' Incentives Bring Jobs Back Home?



60% Think It Could Work

It seems like it would make sense. Offer businesses more money for keeping it local, and they'll keep it local. Of course, there's no way to know at this point whether the incentives are going to be enough to match the edge corporations get from outsourcing labor-intensive jobs. Insourcing could help the problem, but that doesn't mean it would solve it. One commenter wrote, "We hope our country will thrive; but if we have no pride in our country, no patriotism, or willingness to work together for the common good; how will we win the war on poverty?"



Liberals Love It

A staggering 94% of liberal respondents voted in favor of the incentives, with progressives trailing by about 10%. Conservatives were less thrilled, with only 26% of them showing support. They were mainly concerned about the new incentives -- most comments still showed support for removing the outsourcing incentives.

Men Are More Divided

The gender gap wasn't very big, but male voters appear to be split on the issue with 54% support. Women helped pull the overall number up by its bootstraps with 63% support.



Smokers Say No

Technically, 47% in favor is withing the margin of error, but it's still evidence that smokers are less impressed with the idea than most. 62% of nonsmokers voted in favor of the idea, while smokers fell just short of supporting it. Drinkers were still in favor.


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  • MW121 2012/02/17 21:46:23
    MW121
    +7
    It's not just incentives to keep jobs here, it's everything else.. Healthcare, regulations, taxes.. It just costs too much to hire anyone here in the states.. At the end of the day, it's all about bottom line and when administrations like this is anti buisness, there is no incentive to invest in more employment rather invest in ways to be effective, productive and profitable without having to hire full time.. That's what I've been doing.. Everything this administration wants to do is increase taxes.. There is no incentive to hire.. Everytime there's more and more increaseing in taxes or fee's or regulations, it just gets pushed down to the employees, in reduced wages, hours, benefits, increase in prices, etc.. How do you expect companies to keep hiring..

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  • jackolantyrn356 2012/02/26 04:10:16
    jackolantyrn356
    America will have to work to restore itself. And it shall tale long. For tjhe ctiminals to be hunmg is the 1st thing and then begin to restore America . And those who can escape pinnishmenmt Good Luck
  • christian 2012/02/22 06:30:03
  • HAZMAT 2012/02/22 01:07:34
  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/02/22 01:02:43
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    ah, Ah, AH HA HA HA! Oh sh-t... hang on...
    *Wanna goes for a beer....*
    Where the hell was I? Oh yeah...

    AH HA HA HA! Insourcing! LOL
  • Kigan 2012/02/21 15:12:53
    Kigan
    You'll need more than incentives paid out on the taxpayer's dime.

    The current economic climate in this country is not good for businesses to hire.
  • Tasine 2012/02/21 14:44:34
    Tasine
    +3
    If the businesses believe government is LESS intrusive and unions less aggressive, they'll come back. If they don't trust the government to be less intrusive and if unions still are greedy pigs, they won't come back - and I wouldn't blame them one iota.
  • Playerazzi 2012/02/21 09:27:04
    Playerazzi
    "... President Obama is trying to pull back jobs by removing tax breaks for outsourcing and offering incentives to businesses who put Americans first and bring the jobs back home ... "

    Barry's doing that?

    Well, whaddyaknow? He finally got something right. Good for him. Just goes to show you that even an idiot can learn something . . . .
  • Chukroast 2012/02/21 09:08:40
    Chukroast
    Insourcing is about as ideal as communism. Ideally it would work, but they did call the communist experiment in Russia: The UNION of Soviet Socialists Republics. For the dopes, with their heads in the clouds, the key word is in UPPERCASE.
  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/02/21 05:51:50
    Charles R. Anderson
    +1
    There are no tax breaks for exporting jobs. That is a fiction. What companies can do is avoid paying the highest in the developed world corporate taxes on money earned abroad and of course they will do that. Drop our ridiculously high tax rate for all corporations and companies. Since many companies are not corporations, we also have to drop our higher tax bracket rates for the personal income tax to do this. Dropping these rates and getting foolish and expensive regulations and mandates under control will cause companies to create many more jobs, while not hurting companies ability to export and sell and service their goods abroad.
  • GOP Poison Charles... 2012/03/17 19:41:14
    GOP Poison
    It is not fiction.It was pushed by Reagan as establishing American businesses worldwide.Companies that wanted to establish a factory overseas were given tax payers cash and tax incentives to do so.Giving Reagan and his son the benefit of the doubt,he never thought that his corporate buddies would stab Americans in the back the way they did.I broke a guy from france in for 2 weeks on my job and 6 months later my job went to France.Believe me I know all about the great American expansion and the republicans are so proud of it that they have completely scrubbed the definition of it from Reagans bio.
  • Charles... GOP Poison 2012/04/12 01:52:30
    Charles R. Anderson
    Multinational companies in many cases have to manufacture abroad in many cases to make products suitable for the area in which they are being marketed and to keep down distribution costs. They need sales people and distributors where their customers are. They will sometimes close down a US operation, but on average they create more US jobs even as they create more jobs abroad. Right now though, the business climate in the US is very uncertain and many companies do not want to hire here. Socialist government is a very serious business problem.

    Perhaps you can tell me more about the tax incentives, other than avoiding the highest in the world US corporate tax, that you believe is enticing US companies to go abroad?
  • ☮ Ron ☮ Paul ☮ 2012! ☮ 2012/02/21 05:15:58
    ☮ Ron ☮ Paul ☮ 2012! ☮
    +1
    Less government, more individual liberties, and with Gods grace, a better America -- Ron Paul 2012!
  • seekthetruth 2012/02/21 05:02:42
    seekthetruth
    +1
    So many pretty words, so little substance. Just like all his re-election hype, the devil is in the details.
    The simple answer is government needs to back up and get out of the way. Lose the regulations and stronghold over business. Capitalism works for those willing to work. for those with their hand out and an 'I'm entitled' attitude, it will not.
    For those who haven't figured out in the current administration's "99% to 1%" world, they are the 1% (haves) and you are the 99% (have nots). The plan is not to change that fact but to make you accept it by saying it isn't their fault it happened.
    Wake Up!
  • LOU 2012/02/21 00:32:11
    LOU
    Whatever it takes! Any job is better than no job!
  • Calm down! 2012/02/20 18:01:28
    Calm down!
    +4
    So would a new President in office! Obama has shown us time and time again over the past 3 years he is not the right man for the job!
  • WmartRamen 2012/02/20 16:32:46
    WmartRamen
    +1
    Republicans love outsourcing, just ask the Chinese Communists. (WALMART!)
    Well when you go in the Low Road, low taxes low pay it's bad.
    Low taxes takes away your help paying the rent. The apartments are not being nice when they say "Ah ok I know life is hard for you, just pay this much rent!" NOT!
    It's covered by taxes, less taxes less to cover the rent! And less money for food stamps!
    Then you have the low pay, ALEC! ( http://alecexposed.org/wiki/A... )
    ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?... )
    People with no money can not buy things. All this low road does is makes your stamps go up $9, makes your school cost go up! And pay a $200+ fee for the police & fire, because most of the poor only has $20 in the bank before payday & can't afford the fee, so more people have to pay more of a fee to keep life going!
    Friends stop voting Republican!
    Print this up and pass it around!


    friends
  • tdterry... WmartRamen 2012/02/20 20:06:11
    tdterry1999
    GE
  • kgiexec WmartRamen 2012/02/20 22:17:18
    kgiexec
    What a simple minded comment. Many of the democratic leadership has been a huge part of driving jobs away from america through excessive regulation. Our government collectively created the problem and collectively are responsible for it now. your democrat friends bailed out GM and GM recently announced the our sourcing of more jobs outside of America, and today announced paying all employees a bonus all of which while the tax payers mney used to bail out this poorly run business has yet to be paid back. You may not like republicans but try and blame that on a republican. You are part of the problem, everyone is siding on one side or the other which means everyone has stopped thinking. If people were honest with themselves, there would not be true democrats or true republicans cause we would each decide issues based on their individual merit vs. voting the party line.
  • LOU kgiexec 2012/02/21 00:34:33
    LOU
    +2
    Sending jobs overseas is nothing but pure greed.
  • WannaBe... WmartRamen 2012/02/22 01:07:13
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    Burp!
  • Groundskeeper Willy 2012/02/20 15:45:31
    Groundskeeper Willy
    +2
    the only way a politician can "in source" is to make the tax climate inviting to businesses.
    OBarry says what the delusional minions want to hear. But his minions also refuse to make the tax climate conducive to inviting businesses in. Until these idiots realize that they need to stop the welfare fascist state notion of government as a solution and see it as the problem, the problem will get worse.
  • william keegan 2012/02/20 15:43:32
    william keegan
    +1
    This question is a prime example of just how uneducated the American, especially liberal, population is!

    The primary function of all business is PROFIT! Employment is a by-product. There is not one business that can continue to operate without profit. If two businesses are making and selling widgets and one of them can decrease production costs by outsourcing, the other, in order to maintain its ROI, will have to outsource or innovate in some other way in order to stay in business. Government actions rarely can have much of an effect on the costs of labor unless it uses its taxing abilities to favor one company over others, which would be a bastardizing of its taxing authority. According to constitutional principles, taxing should be uniformly applied throughout the country. If all businesses are treated equally, the business that comes up with the lowest production and marketing costs will generally outperform the rest of the pack. Government activity can ONLY impede the profitability of any business concern. The less government activity in the commercial life of the country the more profitable the businesses will be, and the more profitable a business is, the more employment will result.
  • robert 2012/02/20 14:39:59
    robert
    +3
    Ok here we go a politician is going to fix something..and to make matters worse it's a democrat. The top opinion is spot on. Any politician saying they are going to do something for the American people translates to bend over and grab your ankles
  • harry 2012/02/20 08:30:39
    harry
    Do doubt it will work. Manufacturing should be 60% of GDP not its current 10%. The only thing we make nowadays in this country is Money on Wall Street.
  • Cora 2012/02/20 04:10:16
    Cora
    It would help.
  • NickTheAceBassist 2012/02/20 03:28:46
    NickTheAceBassist
    Duh...
  • Live Free Or Die 2012/02/20 03:00:24
    Live Free Or Die
    Try it and see what happens, what do we have to lose?
  • Lagdh 2012/02/20 02:54:39
    Lagdh
    +1
    We should've thought of the effect of outsourcing years ago...
  • SaltySo... Lagdh 2012/02/20 15:49:09
    SaltySodahead7
    +2
    We were warned but Bush pushed it (NAFTA) and Clinton saw it through as Al Gore sung it's praises. Bottom line to learn here is that those politicians who are obviously "chosen" to win our "honest" elections, who represent BOTH parties, all work to continue a One WOrld Government destruction of the US. Only those who fail to recognize patterns and motives think its all an 'accident'.
  • SaltySo... SaltySo... 2012/02/20 15:50:47
    SaltySodahead7
    +3
    By the way Obama promised to end it but showed himself a fraud by refusing to even address it until now-he is campaigning again...
  • Lagdh SaltySo... 2012/02/20 20:17:06
    Lagdh
    +1
    Yes, I really don't care who wins te election, I just don't want any more hate between the two parties, can't we strive for a common goal? And all we need to do is get the economy back on track rather than worry who said what or who needs to prove they have proof that they were born in the US. But I must say that during the Obama presidency my Father's small business did recover greatly.
  • Mike P 2012/02/19 21:07:18
    Mike P
    +2
    There are so many problems crushing this economy it's unbelievable. Incentives to insource are a start. Penalties for outsourcing are another. Removal of pointless and detrimental regulatory policies(not ones that protect the populace mind you) is another. Regaining control of the Fed yet another. Doing something to address the obscene ratio of CEO-to-employee pay(475-1 in the US, as opposed to 11/12-1 in Japan/Germany) would be another. Welfare and similar programs would be largely unnecessary if the general population made enough to not need it.
  • ncolarossi 2012/02/19 21:05:09
    ncolarossi
    +1
    The manufacturing base of this country has been declining for years, trade is not fair with the scales tipped not in our favor. Labor prices are a huge part of it; but regulations; unions and higher costs to do business here is much higher than in other countries. Regulations on clean air, water and the environment cost money and they are not a requirement in countries like China and India. Let's face it, the biggest thing that sets this country apart from the others is the middle class. In many parts of the world, there is a very small middle class only wealthy and poor. I try to do my best to support domestic products and in particular to supporting small business. Manufacturing is a big part of that, we used to have good paying manufacturing jobs here that could support a family, not many of those left. It is sad, I pray for the America that used to be an America to be proud of to come back!
  • zohar 2012/02/19 20:45:52 (edited)
    zohar
    +2
    It will take a long time to to repair the damage that has been done to the American manufacturing base. Probably decades. We need incentives for companies to keep and develop manufacturing operation in the USA. But the reality is, it will always be impossible to compete with the slave labor that is readily available in the rest of the world. Probably the only way for us to become competitive again would be for the standard of living in those countries to rise to the point where the people did not have to tolerate the horrible working conditions they do in order to survive.
  • DTJ 2012/02/19 19:51:06
    DTJ
    +1
    The suggestion of Mr. Hussein Obama of incentives for companies to "insource" jobs shows that deep down he knows that over taxation and over regulation has driven jobs away from the United States. If he really wants companies to "insource" stop taxing and redundantly regulating all businesses to death. But he won't do that. He has to keep his class warfare going to keep the country divided. The state of California is a microcosm of what has happened with the United States as a whole. California has lost hundreds of businesses to neighboring states. A group of the California elite politicians even held a summit in Nevada (I think) where a number of their businesses have moved to. They asked the business owners to attend and asked them the burning question, "why did you leave California and move your business here?" The resounding answer was that California's taxes got to be too high and the businesses left to lower their operating expenses so they could offer their products and services at an affordable price. Some regulation is necessary to keep the public safe from shady business operations. But taxes and regulations have gotten out of control. The problem with the government is not that they don't have enough money. The problem is that they have spent too much in the past, w...
    The suggestion of Mr. Hussein Obama of incentives for companies to "insource" jobs shows that deep down he knows that over taxation and over regulation has driven jobs away from the United States. If he really wants companies to "insource" stop taxing and redundantly regulating all businesses to death. But he won't do that. He has to keep his class warfare going to keep the country divided. The state of California is a microcosm of what has happened with the United States as a whole. California has lost hundreds of businesses to neighboring states. A group of the California elite politicians even held a summit in Nevada (I think) where a number of their businesses have moved to. They asked the business owners to attend and asked them the burning question, "why did you leave California and move your business here?" The resounding answer was that California's taxes got to be too high and the businesses left to lower their operating expenses so they could offer their products and services at an affordable price. Some regulation is necessary to keep the public safe from shady business operations. But taxes and regulations have gotten out of control. The problem with the government is not that they don't have enough money. The problem is that they have spent too much in the past, wasting billion's of dollars needlessly, failing miserably in doing the jobs they were elected to do, and now they continue to spend more than they have, borrowing trillion's of dollars and they continue to lie to use telling us we aren't paying enough in taxes. If they don't stop it will very soon be time for us to take control with gunpowder and lead.
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  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/02/19 18:55:44 (edited)
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    It's more important to attack the core problem -- high taxes and burdensome regulations -- that drive the offshoring machine. Cut the cost of hiring Americans, and nobody will need government incentives.

    The free market is beginning to punish companies that overuse the offshore option. When I call for assistance and get stuck with a useless offshore call center, I take my business elsewhere. It's worth a premium to be exempt from the nonsense.
  • sbtbill V~POTL~... 2012/02/19 21:59:43
    sbtbill
    Since US taxes are generally lower then those in countries doing better then us and at the lowest effective level in decades I think your tax argument is wrong.
  • V~POTL~... sbtbill 2012/02/19 22:23:46
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    When you add Federal, State, County, and Municipal taxes all together, US taxes are pushing 50% in many cases. Even worse, the things a US worker buys are touched by workers who also pay a 50% tax burden -- all of which is baked into the price of goods and services.

    Pile on workers's comp., unemployment taxes, social security, and employer-subsidized healthcare, and it becomes obvious that the only countries with heavier tax burdens than the US are in Europe -- suffering just like us for the same reason. To their credit, the Europeans provide healthcare, so the tax burden is less than the US if you add on the cost of healthcare as if it were a tax (as it soon will be anyway).

    It costs less to hire a worker a worker in China or India than to pay the overhead cost of a US worker -- before the US worker sees a single dime! For the jobs that somehow escape offshoring, the US worker has to be paid 50% more than the cost of what he needs to survive -- which is inflated by 50% to cover the taxes baked into the cost of production!

    Taxes and healthcare costs are two of the biggest factors in determining cost of living (and by extension, cost of labor) from one country to the next. Jobs are not moving offshore because employers are clamoring to pay higher taxes.

    If you pour water ...
    When you add Federal, State, County, and Municipal taxes all together, US taxes are pushing 50% in many cases. Even worse, the things a US worker buys are touched by workers who also pay a 50% tax burden -- all of which is baked into the price of goods and services.

    Pile on workers's comp., unemployment taxes, social security, and employer-subsidized healthcare, and it becomes obvious that the only countries with heavier tax burdens than the US are in Europe -- suffering just like us for the same reason. To their credit, the Europeans provide healthcare, so the tax burden is less than the US if you add on the cost of healthcare as if it were a tax (as it soon will be anyway).

    It costs less to hire a worker a worker in China or India than to pay the overhead cost of a US worker -- before the US worker sees a single dime! For the jobs that somehow escape offshoring, the US worker has to be paid 50% more than the cost of what he needs to survive -- which is inflated by 50% to cover the taxes baked into the cost of production!

    Taxes and healthcare costs are two of the biggest factors in determining cost of living (and by extension, cost of labor) from one country to the next. Jobs are not moving offshore because employers are clamoring to pay higher taxes.

    If you pour water on your floor and the puddle shifts to one corner of the room, you can safely assume the floor is not level. You can also assume the water is flowing downhill (never uphill). With jobs, it's the same principle. Employment flows from high cost to low cost, just as water flows downhill.
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  • WGN V~POTL~... 2012/02/20 00:43:18
    WGN
    Then, with all of this, how come corporations are posting record profits?
  • V~POTL~... WGN 2012/02/20 01:51:58
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Record profits from record downsizing and record offshoring. Some industries (oil, firearms) are doing well. But for the most part It's a "race to the bottom" to see who can best preserve profit by shedding US payroll.
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