PUBLIC OPINION > Donald Trump Would Not Make a Good Vice President
SodaHead News
2012/05/29 13:00:00
Donald Trump's aspirations for becoming president didn't last very long, but he's still interested in a run for office. The billionaire recently announced that he thinks he would make a good vice president tacking his own name on at the end of a list that included New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. Some suspect he was kidding, but we asked the public anyway.
The public didn't really take Trump seriously when he was talking about running for president, and it's not biting now. More than three-quarters of respondents think Trump would be a poor choice for VP, and with Team Romney's super-specific data collection, that means they'll probably pick up on the lack of support and go for someone else. Even some of his "support" was tongue-in-cheek. The Top Opinion read, "This is all Obama needs to guarantee victory."
Conservatives Consider Trump
Despite low levels of support, he actually did pretty well with the conservative base 43%), which is really the only base that matters here. Well, moderates will definitely play a big part in this race, but he only pulled about 19% of them. Liberals were even lower (11%), verifying that most of the support wasn't sarcastic.
The Big Money Won't Bail Him Out
There was actually a pretty large sample of voters who made over $100k, and almost none of them supported Trump. That's a big hinderance if he wants to get cozy with the so-called "Williams-Sonoma Republican." On the other hand, it could help to win over the lower income brackets Romney might be worried about. Then again, the lower brackets weren't very supportive either.
Marriage Makes a Difference
The age breakdown was too inconsistant to draw any hard conclusions from, but married voters were nearly twice as likely to support Trump as voters who were single or in an unmarried relationship. Usually that indicates an age difference, as married people tend to be a little bit older, on average, and it does provide a vague idea of how the age breakdown turned out.
If you'd like to vote on this question, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion about the topic, visit our poll about Donald Trump. We'd love to hear from you!
Top Opinion
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Che Guevara - Hero 2012/05/29 16:40:50
Support the candidates that support the FairTax!
I'd hire him as a CEO of a business that I owned, that way he could make far more profit for me than he could as a ditch digger. Roll that profit back into other businesses or into corporate expansion and we'd need to take on new hires and provide more goods and services to those that want and need them.
Yup, ditch digger? NO!
Business CEO? YES!
At least the investors in Trump's projects did so voluntarily.
But you and I are INVOLUNTARY victims of Bush/Obama's running up our debt from < $5 Trillion to >$16 trillion in just 12 years... tripling the national debt that it took 230 years and every president in our nation’s history to accrue. “The Donald” is a piker compared to Barry’s regime.
The Donald: good at promoting (himself, mainly). As a businessman - a 4 time loser, who had to rely on banks to bail his failing ass out for billions. What a capitalist, eh?
"Donald Trump's Companies Filed for Bankruptcy 4 Times"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politic...
http://www.mademan.com/mm/how...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/...
The big business man has wrangled with big debt in the past 20 years. Trump's first visit to bankruptcy court was in 1991, when his Atlantic City casino, the Taj Mahal, was buried under a mountain of debt. The Taj carried a $1 billion price tag and was financed by junk bonds carrying a staggering 14 percent interest rate. As construction completed, the economy slumped, as did the Atlantic City gambling scene, soon plunging Trump into $3.4 billion of debt.
On the other hand, who did Barry and George force to buy into their deficit schemes?
Can you say "Solyndra" and a half billion if involuntary tax bucks in the same diatribe? And the trillion dollars worth of "shovel ready" non-sense that our "Dear Leader" has blown using borrowed and printed money? $3.4 billion? Gee, I wish Barry had ONLY blown $3.4 billion...
“If ‘Solyndra’ is the worst thing that Romney can say about Obama, he’s doomed,” said Terry Tamminen, adviser to former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. “I frankly think it’s an embarrassment, but not fatal in a year when ‘It’s the economy, stupid.’”
Just like in Vegas with your housing market... We retired and bought our waterfront home here at the "space coast" in Melbourne Fla after PresBarry killed NASA's budget and laid off all the high paying engineering jobs at the Cape. That left a lot of beautiful waterfront/riverfront homes going for a song. As we retired and love to fish... this was perfect for us. And if the gov't revives the space industry, that will spur growth back to our currently depressed area. In the meantime, it’s a perfect place to live for those retirees that don't have to depend on the local industry for making a living. Good luck w/your Vegas situation...
Then you'd be fired by your shareholders for hiring a guy who has filed for bankruptcy 4 times:
"Donald Trump's Companies Filed for Bankruptcy 4 Times"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politic...
He's a serial failure - who has been bailed out by the banks who backed him four times. As the story indicates, he's a showman. People who know business understand that this guy is a charlatan; an empty suit.
Clearly - those people who know business...does not include you - Adakin.
You are probably correct. I may not know business, but I do know that making mistakes is an educational event. If Trump failed four times, he obviously learned something each time because he picked himself up and tried again...and again... and again. Trump owns his own a jet airliner and has a net worth in the billions. He recently purchased the Doral Golf and Spa Resort in Miami for $170 Million. http://www.businessweek.com/n... Yup, Trump obviously a total failure and to have him as a CEO would be a big mistake. Maybe that's why YOU are so good at judging character!
My husband & I started three different businesses and each failed until we started a specialty auto parts business in our garage on $3000 of credit card debt. He was career Navy officer and I was a "stay at home" mom so the home based garage business was perfect, especially when he was at sea for many months at a time.
We struggled for a couple years but I was able to keep growing our client base of area auto repair shops. Then the city discovered what we were doing and fined us for operating a business in our home... and they forced us to move. We rented an 800sf space in a blighted area strip shopping center and the new overhead co...
You are probably correct. I may not know business, but I do know that making mistakes is an educational event. If Trump failed four times, he obviously learned something each time because he picked himself up and tried again...and again... and again. Trump owns his own a jet airliner and has a net worth in the billions. He recently purchased the Doral Golf and Spa Resort in Miami for $170 Million. http://www.businessweek.com/n... Yup, Trump obviously a total failure and to have him as a CEO would be a big mistake. Maybe that's why YOU are so good at judging character!
My husband & I started three different businesses and each failed until we started a specialty auto parts business in our garage on $3000 of credit card debt. He was career Navy officer and I was a "stay at home" mom so the home based garage business was perfect, especially when he was at sea for many months at a time.
We struggled for a couple years but I was able to keep growing our client base of area auto repair shops. Then the city discovered what we were doing and fined us for operating a business in our home... and they forced us to move. We rented an 800sf space in a blighted area strip shopping center and the new overhead costs almost put us under, but we gained 'walk-in' customer traffic (something we never had in our residential location)... within three years, we were able to buy a building and move to a better, high traffic location.
In six years we paid off the mortgage on that building and we bought our 2nd location in another town nearby... We were able to pay off that one off even faster.
Each store usually had between four and six employees so we had to learn about dealing with that as well... Yes, mistakes were made during our learning curve, and we certainly didn't "know business" as you said... but we still kept trying (Like Trump?)
After 18 years in the business we had grown that little $3000 garage business into FOUR free standing retail stores grossing over $12 million a year in total sales volume... and we had created 24 jobs where none had existed before... (our CPA said that if we had 25 or more, we would have a whole new set of regs to have to comply with)
Yup, we obviously didn't "know business"... but the difference is we didn't give up. We didn't quit. We kept trying to make it work and we did.
I remember several times over the years when the phone would ring at 2am and it was the cops saying our burglar alarm was ringing at one of our stores... and the city imposed a noise ordinance fine of $10 per minute after the first 30 minutes!!!
And then came that letter from a major Fortune 500 Auto parts company that said our logo imposed on their Trademarked logo... We never heard of these people! But as they were growing and moving into our region, they wanted us to change our store logo or face litigation. That's when we offered to sell them the stores AND THEY ACCEPTED!
So WITHOUT "knowing business"... we negotiated a seven figure cash price and moved to Florida and where we retired!
My avatar is of my husband in his flats skiff racing past our dock (in violation of our neighborhood's "NO WAKE ZONE")... He passed away a couple years ago, and I still use that little boat almost every day as we both loved to fish!
Regarding Trump: Personally, I like people that have made mistakes. Especially people that learn from them. I want you to have all the success you can create for yourself and your family... and hope that you never have to make any mistakes or errors in judgement. But then, I only know of one man that ever walked the earth that never made any errors in judgement... but that was 2000 years ago...
Thank you for your informed commentary on my business abilities and judgement. Maybe someday I can be as successful and as smart as you are!
Here's what Trump learned:
Stick to what you do best: as a pitchman - stick to television gameshows.
And here's what the banks learned:
Don't lend money to Trump for big projects! Because you will lose!
Remember I'm supposed to be the one that doesn't know business... but I do know what I read... And your "pitchman and gameshow host is still investing in his core business of real estate... http://www.businessweek.com/n... It appears that contrary to your statement, the banks have learned that they can actually make money by investing in Trump's businesses... at least in this Doral property in Miami.
Heck even Morgan Stanley's Jamie Diamond said they blew through over $2 BILLION in bad investments... and is being demonized by the Obama Administration claiming that both Diamond and MS be subject to a congressional investigation...
Of course there was no mention that the firm earned over $145 Billion during that same fiscal period.
Again, maybe someday I can be as successful and as smart as you are!
Ummm...first - it's JP Morgan. Not Morgan Stanley.
Second - while I'm sure you're very excited about capitalizing BILLION - $2 billion is about 10% of JPM's net income. In other words - it ain't gonna put 'em into bankruptcy, Shirley. Not even close. So why you even try to compare this to Trump's 4 trips to bankruptcy court....well...I guess you said it yourself: you don't know business.
2) "It appears that contrary to your statement"
Let's review that statement, shall we?
"Don't lend money to Trump for BIG projects"
A few points here, darlin':
a) I said big. $170m is a small fraction of what the banks loaned him for deals before. He was $1 billion in debt when the Taj Majal put him into bankruptcy. Buying that space on the rather dead Atlantic City boardwalk has to be one of the dumbest real estate moves of the past 50 years.
b) A large % of "his deals" are actually owned and operated by others. Trump just sells/licenses his name, which yes - does sell. But once again - this is his strength: Pitchman. Not businessman.
Trump was even pushed out of the public company that has his name on it (officially - he "resigned"...): Trump Entertainment Resorts. Here's a Hoover...
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Ummm...first - it's JP Morgan. Not Morgan Stanley.
Second - while I'm sure you're very excited about capitalizing BILLION - $2 billion is about 10% of JPM's net income. In other words - it ain't gonna put 'em into bankruptcy, Shirley. Not even close. So why you even try to compare this to Trump's 4 trips to bankruptcy court....well...I guess you said it yourself: you don't know business.
2) "It appears that contrary to your statement"
Let's review that statement, shall we?
"Don't lend money to Trump for BIG projects"
A few points here, darlin':
a) I said big. $170m is a small fraction of what the banks loaned him for deals before. He was $1 billion in debt when the Taj Majal put him into bankruptcy. Buying that space on the rather dead Atlantic City boardwalk has to be one of the dumbest real estate moves of the past 50 years.
b) A large % of "his deals" are actually owned and operated by others. Trump just sells/licenses his name, which yes - does sell. But once again - this is his strength: Pitchman. Not businessman.
Trump was even pushed out of the public company that has his name on it (officially - he "resigned"...): Trump Entertainment Resorts. Here's a Hoover summary of that business disaster:
"Trump Entertainment Resorts (TER, formerly Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts) owns and manages the Trump Plaza and the Trump Taj Mahal casino hotels in Atlantic City, New Jersey. The two properties house hotel rooms, gaming tables, and slot machines. The company also owns the right to use founder and former chairman Donald Trump's name and likeness for gambling promotions. (Unhappy with the actions of the board of directors, Trump 'resigned' in 2009.) After spending about a year and a half in Chapter 11 reorganization, TER exited bankruptcy in 2010. The company sold its underperforming Trump Marina in 2011.
"More Troubles in Trump Land"
http://online.barrons.com/art...
"Trump's tower a sore spot on the Strip"
http://articles.latimes.com/2...
No, The Donald is not a complete idiot. He hasn't survived this long by being a complete nitwit. But people who know business understand that Trump is roughly 80% about his image, and about 20% (business) substance.
for Obama to BEAT.
"The cost of appearing with this bloviating ignoramus is obvious it seems to me. Donald Trump is redundant evidence that if your net worth is high enough, your IQ can be very low and you can still intrude into American politics,”
So if you REALLY want to change things... support the candidates that support your issues. Your Paul advocacy is okay, but he isn't running for any political office right now.