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PUBLIC OPINION > Atheists Think Apes Can Outthink Humans; Christians, Not So Much

SodaHead News 2012/06/26 15:00:00
Scientists are investing an increasing amount of time and money into the study of animal cognition, and with nearly every new investment comes a new discovery. More and more, it's becoming apparent that we've been underestimating animals, and that's especially true with apes. Recently, studies have shown that there is only a 1.3% difference between human DNA and the DNA of a bonobo ape. We asked the public if apes could possibly outthink humans.

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Believe it or not, this was a split decision. Maybe apes can outthink humans, after all. Some respondents did take this as an opportunity to joke about specific types of people, but there were plenty of serious believers. In fact, some suggested maybe other animals can outthink humans, too. Of course, it depends on the person as much as the animal. As many respondents were adamant that it's just not plausible.

Drinkers Don't Think So

Drinkers were a good 16% less likely to believe that apes can outthink humans. Interestingly enough, alcohol is one thing apes have in common with humans. Some species of monkey that have been exposed to alcohol not only enjoy the substance, but express as many attitudes toward alcohol as humans. Some just drink to relax, some become addicted, and some won't touch the stuff.

Atheists Are Convinced

In some ways, this poll is predisposed to intrigue some people, and turn others off. A major tenet of some religions, particularly western religions, is that humans were created special. On the other hand, a major tenet of science is that humans evolved directly from apes. Where you stand on that paradigm is likely to affect how you respond to the question.

Men Have No Faith in Monkeys

Men were a bit more reluctant to agree that apes could ever outthink humans, while women were a bit more willing. It could be that men have a little more pride in human achievement, or it could be that women can better see the flaws in human achievement. It's not a huge difference, though, so whatever the reason, it's of marginal value.

If you'd like to vote on this question, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion about the topic, visit our poll about apes. We'd love to hear from you!
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  • addie 2012/06/27 05:56:18
    addie
    +2
    You can be, very smart and still have an animal trick you, most dog owners can tell you that much.
  • LunarRain 2012/06/27 05:20:02
    LunarRain
    +2
    I don't see why everyone commenting thinks atheists are stupid religion or non religion has nothing to do with someones IQ.
  • classic LunarRain 2012/06/27 14:14:54
    classic
    +1
    However Studies have been done on Athiests vs Religion and have proven that on th majority Atheist are in a higher ingelligent bracket..Results of one test was on religious subjects and this is how the Good Christians did..

    Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups in a 32-question survey of religious knowledge by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. On average, Americans got 16 of the 32 questions correct. Atheists and agnostics got an average of 20.9 correct answers. Jews (20.5) and Mormons (20.3). Protestants got 16 correct answers on average, while Catholics got 14.7 questions right

    Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God.
  • dontlookatme4444 2012/06/27 05:16:09
    dontlookatme4444
    +2
    Well just like how some people are smarter than others, monkeys can be the same way. So when you consider a smart monkey, with a dumb person
  • BoomLover 2012/06/27 05:12:03
    BoomLover
    The above mentioned 1.3% difference between apes and humans precludes the successful interbreeding of our two species. That number is specious, in that we have matching strands of DNA with many creatures, including earthworms. However, the difference, altho very slight, proves that we in no way ascended from apes. The Human Species is unique in and of itself, and the degree of "smartness" of apes still wouldn't, even with micro-evolution at it fastest, achieve the level of humans in tens of thousands of years. As for Atheists, they tend to gyrate towards the sciences, especially in the Darwinian theories, (Darwin himself retracted much of his own theories, by the way) and therefor, there is a special Holiday reserved just for them. It's called April Fools Day.
  • Brian BoomLover 2012/06/27 05:46:37
    Brian
    "Darwin himself retracted much of his own theories"

    I have the utmost respect for religion, but that's not even remotely demonstrable.
  • classic Brian 2012/06/27 14:17:29
    classic
    Darwin never recanted his Atheist position,, that is a false story.. His daughter was the only person near him on his death bed and she refutes the rumor that he recanted his beliefs.....
  • Brian classic 2012/06/27 19:23:44
    Brian
    Yes, that's what I just implied.
  • JohnMLTX BoomLover 2012/06/27 06:03:29
    JohnMLTX
    +2
    Let's break this down into each individual wrong statement.

    The mass similarities in DNA are actually proof that life has a common ancestor, just as one would expect a commonality among related creatures. The more different the DNA is, the earlier two organisms diverged from each other.

    Second, 'microevolution' is just evolution. Scientists don't differentiate between macro and micro, it's all evolution, gradual change over time eventually yielding new species.

    Third, we're not talking about tens of thousands of years, it's more in terms of tens of millions of years, if not more.

    Fourth, the reason atheists, such as myself, gravitate towards the sciences is because having logic, reason and constant re-validation through physical, valid evidence is completely in line with how we formulate our own beliefs. It's like asking a math teacher why they believe in 2+2 equaling 4, or Pi equaling 3.14159 and so on.

    And finally, Charles Darwin never retracted any of his theories, nor did his children, nor did his grand children. He continued refining his theories up until his illness which led to his death, and all of these stories of deathbed conversions and redacting theories are at best fabrications, if not attempts at slander and libel. Numerous members of his family continued his researc...



    Let's break this down into each individual wrong statement.

    The mass similarities in DNA are actually proof that life has a common ancestor, just as one would expect a commonality among related creatures. The more different the DNA is, the earlier two organisms diverged from each other.

    Second, 'microevolution' is just evolution. Scientists don't differentiate between macro and micro, it's all evolution, gradual change over time eventually yielding new species.

    Third, we're not talking about tens of thousands of years, it's more in terms of tens of millions of years, if not more.

    Fourth, the reason atheists, such as myself, gravitate towards the sciences is because having logic, reason and constant re-validation through physical, valid evidence is completely in line with how we formulate our own beliefs. It's like asking a math teacher why they believe in 2+2 equaling 4, or Pi equaling 3.14159 and so on.

    And finally, Charles Darwin never retracted any of his theories, nor did his children, nor did his grand children. He continued refining his theories up until his illness which led to his death, and all of these stories of deathbed conversions and redacting theories are at best fabrications, if not attempts at slander and libel. Numerous members of his family continued his research and helped continue to build the knowledge of evolution, in addition to mentoring more evolutionary biologists.

    It's perfectly wrong to disagree over matters of opinion, but a lack of understanding of the facts of what you're attacking is unacceptable. Plus, ending with your remark on April Fools Day just shows pleasure in ignorance.

    Have a nice day.
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  • classic JohnMLTX 2012/06/27 14:18:38
    classic
    I have a problem of believing in Invisable facts like the religious people do...
  • john doe 2012/06/27 04:42:44 (edited)
    john doe
    +2
    I'm not doubting apes are very intelligent but can they build a plane or skyscraper.....I don't think so. Surely they can out think Christians though.
  • Kozman 2012/06/27 04:19:23
    Kozman
    +4
    I was on another Soda Head question and an atheist kept using Jesus to counter My
    reply's. When I busted his ASS he finely shut his mouth UP!!! Total HYPOCRITE!!!
    So bottom line. YES, Apes can out think Atheists. Good question tho. Thank God
    I'm a Christian...
  • Bill 2012/06/27 04:18:17
    Bill
    +4
    In some cases Apes can out think humans. They can out think Atheists that's for sure, but the rest of us, I don't think apes can outthink us.
  • addie Bill 2012/06/27 06:00:57
    addie
    Religion is based on faith, not thought, belief, not proof.

    If the ape is thinking at all, it is outthinking Christians, for one, by default. Sorry.
  • Keith Bill 2012/06/27 06:43:33
    Keith
    Go try to fight a ape or try to outrun or out climb a ape, they will win because they have faster reflexes, meaning their brain processes things faster so in essence they out thought you, but humans have better cognitive thinking and memorization.
  • Jane 2012/06/27 03:59:04
    Jane
    This is like Rush Limbaugh saying he knows how liberals think. I don't know any atheists that think apes can out think humans.
    Just because some jerk makes a stupid statement does not make it so.
  • gunner 2012/06/27 03:04:25
    gunner
    +2
    The answer is obvious. From my understanding of the poll breakdown. The atheists` and women are not smarter than apes. I always agree with the atheist who claims his ancestors crawled from the sea. Or, were evolved from monkeys. Or, originated from the primordial ooze.
  • BoomLover gunner 2012/06/27 05:14:29
    BoomLover
    +1
    LOL! Because he is probably right, and his existence proves it? Good one!
  • Darth Vader.BN-0 2012/06/27 02:49:20
    Darth Vader.BN-0
    I think they can in some senses.
  • JeanLouiseCollins 2012/06/27 02:44:11
    JeanLouiseCollins
    +2
    A horse knows when there is other horses within 2 miles..herd instinct..the wolf pack knows who is Alpha and can breed...the birds know to leave and migrate..whats the big deal..man knows he doesn't know everything and something beyond him does.GOD
    Albert E. felt sorry for people who could imagine the edge of the universe and not acknowledge GOD...me too !!
  • Wortmore 2012/06/27 02:25:46
    Wortmore
    +1
    Zombies vs. Terminators vs aliens vs vampires vs "planet of the apes" apes... Not a good outcome
  • Crimson 2012/06/27 01:49:57
    Crimson
    +4
    This totally reminds me of this:

    Rising of the Apes
  • golem48 Crimson 2012/06/27 05:03:20
    golem48
    +1
    Just think, that one may get to the White House..
  • Eli Joh... golem48 2012/06/27 05:08:56
    Eli Johansen
    +1
    Uh, isn't that already the case?
  • golem48 Eli Joh... 2012/06/28 19:20:35
    golem48
    Unfortunately so. The book, Planet of The Apes is a metaphor that many now find manifest..
  • Chukroast 2012/06/27 01:11:02
    Chukroast
    +1
    OK, so the smartest monkey is smarter than the dumbest kid. Big deal. That kind of overlap occurs among races too.
  • Darth V... Chukroast 2012/06/27 02:47:15
    Darth Vader.BN-0
    When does it occur in races?
  • Crypt_H... Darth V... 2012/06/27 02:55:09
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    Quite a lot actually, Chukroast is being a bit silly. Given the same environment, Africans and Caucasians perform exactly the same. The differences tend to come about thanks to cultural differences, differences in wealth and in some cases the environment itself.

    What Chukroast probably doesn't know is that not only is the average ape smarter than the average four year old, but they can also converse fluently with each and teach each other sign language. (An adapted version of ASL... I believe her name was Daisy if I remember correctly and taught her son that if he didn't behave the big black dog would come and get him.. or something along those lines).

    Truthfully I'm of the opposite side of the argument I think that Humans out perform apes but only later on in their development, of course Apes are on average better at memory games than us lot, but not necessarily as quick as us when it comes to art, languages or mathematics.
  • BoomLover Crypt_H... 2012/06/27 05:20:03
    BoomLover
    Like has been mentioned, can apes build skyscrapers or airplanes? Can Apes figure out how to work a GPS, or a Cell phone? Most 10 year olds these days can do both tasks with ease. (Most here in the U.S.A., that is...not necessarly so in some underdeveloped countries)
  • Crypt_H... BoomLover 2012/06/27 12:29:00
    Crypt_Heart
    Opposable thumbs does not make you intelligent.

    Secondly, as has been demonstrated by the clip above they could easily be taught how to use a cell phone. GPS might be somewhat more tricky.

    Apes can and do build but they have zero interest in building upwards or leaving the ground.
  • sdiusdf 2012/06/27 01:07:32
  • BrittanyRose1991 2012/06/27 00:51:08
    BrittanyRose1991
    +4
    Excuse me? But I'm a Christian and I totally disagree.
  • Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ 2012/06/27 00:41:28 (edited)
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    +5
    "Monkey/s" and "ape/s" are not interchangeable words Sodahead... what is this, Texas?
  • socokid Scott ヶ... 2012/06/27 00:42:30
    socokid
    +3
    LOL...
  • addie Scott ヶ... 2012/06/27 06:03:21
  • Butterb... Scott ヶ... 2012/06/27 08:22:09
    ButterbeerMe
    +2
    Thank you for saying it so I didn't have to.
  • DISCO 2012/06/27 00:28:28
    DISCO
    +2
    Reckon Athesist are ready for the Planet Of The Apes coming to a town near you. Maybe the Zombies will show up to and will have a really good battle.
  • izzybean 2012/06/26 23:59:17
    izzybean
    +3
    So when are the apes going to mars?
  • Aurora 2012/06/26 23:15:31
    Aurora
    +2
    Well since Obama has been in office it has been like the planet of the Apes. I would vote for this monkey over Obama is he going to be on the ballot, I bet he can read from a teleprompter too. Silly stuff.
  • fortycal_sig 2012/06/26 22:51:55
    fortycal_sig
    +2
    The question is ridiculous, as is the alleged connection with atheists.

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