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PUBLIC OPINION > America Should Not Adopt a Fat Tax

SodaHead News 2012/05/21 22:00:00
Following Denmark's recent adoption of a "fat tax" -- that is, a tax on fatty foods, not a tax on fat people -- researchers are suggesting that a similar tax in America could save thousands of lives and cut down on obesity. But would a fat tax fly in the land of liberty? We asked the public to find out.

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Fat chance! There was some support for a fat tax, but not nearly enough to pass on a ballot. Nearly two-thirds of respondents were opposed. One commenter wrote, "This does nothing to solve the real problem in America: Healthy natural foods are overpriced." Many comments echoed that sentiment, suggesting that it would be more productive to develop cheap nutritious food than to make the fatty stuff more expensive.

International Encouragement

It's gonna be tough to pass legislation if American citizens are against it, but there's plenty of support overseas. Voters from outside the U.S. were twice as likely to support a fat tax. Although, keep in mind that the question asked about an American fat tax, so international voters aren't necessarily saying they want one in their own country. But they'd definitely like to see one in the States.

Heavy Opposition

Naturally, overweight respondents were among the least supportive. Presumably, that's because it would impact their budget the most. Skinny voters were actually more than twice as likely to support a fat tax as overweight voters. Average weight voters sided with the overweight, while athletes were closer to skinny voters, but not quite as enthusiastic.

Liberals Love the Idea

Finally, as expected, there was an enormous political margin. Liberals were more supportive than any other group with 73% saying they would encourage a fat tax. That's an unprecedented 50% more than conservatives. Oddly enough, progressives were against the tax, as were most moderates and "others." Libertarians were even more opposed than conservatives with just 18% support.

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  • abubincrazy 2012/05/21 23:19:30
    abubincrazy
    +12
    We are AMERICANS.
    NOT a brain-washed pack of socialist Euro-weenies.
    Government is the PROBLEM, not the solution.
    If I want to main-line lard, WHAT business is it of yours?
    NONE.

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  • jackie kir 2012/05/22 03:38:46
  • Wulfdane 2012/05/22 00:05:47 (edited)
    Wulfdane
    +1
    Of course Liberals love the idea, thier constantly trying to find new ways to tax.

    More taxes, means more entitlements.
  • Cognito22 2012/05/21 23:56:48
    Cognito22
    +3
    I'm not surprised about liberal's position.
    Liberals support any position that empowers the government to force people to live the way the government thinks is best for them.
    They are the closest thing to Nazis in our society.
    "Pursuit of happiness" only applies to situations where you comply with what they deem you should be happy with.
  • Næthan Æterna 2012/05/21 23:53:04
    Næthan Æterna
    +2
    No new taxes, period. We should be able to eat whatever the hell we want to without the Governments say-so! F*ck what any other Country thinks.
  • kotabear 2012/05/21 23:38:46
    kotabear
    +3
    Yes I agree with one of the commenters: Please Please Please make healthy food less expensive!!!!! That'd be so nice.
  • kofp 2012/05/21 23:37:39
    kofp
    +2
    From Thomas Jefferson, "Government that governs least governs best". Remember when you vote in November. Ron Paul 2012!
  • Rio 2012/05/21 23:36:55
    Rio
    +1
    iiiii, i hate to think how much that tax would be.
  • dennisg40 2012/05/21 23:36:45
    dennisg40
    +1
    You are not going to be able to legislate people's weight.
  • Grandbrother 2012/05/21 23:34:10 (edited)
    Grandbrother
    +1
    I would have thought that the significant, negative fiscal impact obesity has on America would be reason for conservatives to consider supporting a fat tax. They are looking for places to cut spending, yes? People are of course free to eat what they please, but when their dietary habits - guided purely by choice - actually translate into higher costs for the rest of us in so many areas, it only makes sense that they should bear a bit more of the financial burden through something like this fat tax.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/r...
    "Reuters is reporting that obesity in America is now adding an astounding $190 billion to the annual national healthcare price tag, exceeding smoking as public health enemy number one when it comes to cost.

    “Obese men rack up an additional $1,152 a year in medical spending, especially for hospitalizations and prescription drugs, Cawley and Chad Meyerhoefer of Lehigh University reported in January in the Journal of Health Economics. Obese women account for an extra $3,613 a year. Using data from 9,852 men (average BMI: 28) and 13,837 women (average BMI: 27) ages 20 to 64, among whom 28 percent were obese, the researchers found even higher costs among the uninsured: annual medical spending for an obese person was $3,271 compared with $512 for the non-obese.”

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    I would have thought that the significant, negative fiscal impact obesity has on America would be reason for conservatives to consider supporting a fat tax. They are looking for places to cut spending, yes? People are of course free to eat what they please, but when their dietary habits - guided purely by choice - actually translate into higher costs for the rest of us in so many areas, it only makes sense that they should bear a bit more of the financial burden through something like this fat tax.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/r...
    "Reuters is reporting that obesity in America is now adding an astounding $190 billion to the annual national healthcare price tag, exceeding smoking as public health enemy number one when it comes to cost.

    “Obese men rack up an additional $1,152 a year in medical spending, especially for hospitalizations and prescription drugs, Cawley and Chad Meyerhoefer of Lehigh University reported in January in the Journal of Health Economics. Obese women account for an extra $3,613 a year. Using data from 9,852 men (average BMI: 28) and 13,837 women (average BMI: 27) ages 20 to 64, among whom 28 percent were obese, the researchers found even higher costs among the uninsured: annual medical spending for an obese person was $3,271 compared with $512 for the non-obese.”

    The high cost of being significantly overweight manifests in a variety of ways, ranging from the increased insurance premiums we all pay to subsidize the added medical charges incurred by the obese to the surprisingly dramatic impact our collective pounds has on energy costs.

    According to Sheldon Jacobson of the University of Illinois, the extra weight carried by vehicles as a result of obese and overweight Americans is responsible for almost one billion additional gallons of gasoline being burned each year by our automobiles—nearly 1 percent of our total gasoline usage."


    The article continues beyond this. It's an interesting read for anyone who's interested.
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  • kofp 2012/05/21 23:33:32
    kofp
    +4
    I guess the Danes are possibly even more stupid than typical New Yorkers! Americans as a whole are not socialists, we're sick of socialism and ultra liberal types like Mayor Bloomberg and Barack Obama acting like little despots!

    Even if we did adopt a "fat tax" what exact foods or drinks would qualify? Where would this fat tax money REALLY be going except in the pockets of central bankers to pay off government interest on debt "owed"? First it's about adopting a flat tax and now it's a fat tax, the world's bonkers!

    Fat is actually good for our health in order to aid metabolism and to absorb and use nutrients in our body to their potential. People who get the best nutrition physically look the most healthy in general, even noticed?

    The Greek diet is the world's most healthful and guess what? It contains plenty of fat. It sounds to me like Denmark, being the happiest county on earth supposedly will be taking a step downward before long by getting grouchy and malnourished because they have a stupid government like the USA and Great Britain. Bottom line, this world's problem is government sticking its nose where it does not belong! Government doesn't know everything and more often than not they do not have all the answers for the good of society. G-d gave individual people a brain to govern themselves.
  • Osaka 2012/05/21 23:27:13
    Osaka
    +5
    So Liberals want to make one of my favorite fruit more expensive.
    Avocado
    Its a good fat.
  • kofp Osaka 2012/05/21 23:35:49
    kofp
    +4
    I LOVE avocados too. When government taxes avocados at the grocery, I will take the big pits of the fruit, break the politician's windows with them and tell them to keep the change!
  • retrograve kofp 2012/05/22 03:23:26
    retrograve
    You can make chocolate pudding out of avacados...
  • Juliet Osaka 2012/05/22 09:45:46
    Juliet
    i dont think they would be included lol and i love them too :)
  • Juliet Osaka 2012/07/14 15:30:13
    Juliet
    i'm sure they mean the trans fat.
  • abubincrazy 2012/05/21 23:19:30
    abubincrazy
    +12
    We are AMERICANS.
    NOT a brain-washed pack of socialist Euro-weenies.
    Government is the PROBLEM, not the solution.
    If I want to main-line lard, WHAT business is it of yours?
    NONE.
  • Juliet abubinc... 2012/05/22 09:38:42
    Juliet
    +1
    i am hardly a socialist Euro-weenie.. perhaps some tax MIGHT help get your government out of its trillions of dollars of debt. well it probably wouldn't but it could scratch the surface.
  • ExaltedGod Juliet 2012/05/22 12:26:48
    ExaltedGod
    +1
    Oh well it seems that no country in the Euro -Zone is without debt. So lets blow your small country up to the size of ours and then lets see how much debt you really have.
  • Juliet ExaltedGod 2012/05/22 13:07:36
    Juliet
    ... my country is the same size as yours...
    http://upfromaustralia.com/au...
  • Max Power Juliet 2012/05/22 17:09:57
    Max Power
    +2
    *with 10% of the population

    But excuse my nit-picking. Carry on.
  • Juliet Max Power 2012/05/22 23:46:03
    Juliet
    which is exactly why something needs to be done. with so many people in a country there are people who go without a lot of things and tax helps that.
  • Max Power Juliet 2012/05/23 01:12:30
    Max Power
    There are a lot of things to cut spending on before actually raising taxes is necessary.
  • Command... Juliet 2012/05/23 15:43:08
    Commander Pyle
    You live in a nanny state where adults cant even play video games without becoming murderers or have porn stars with small breasts lest the viewers become pedophiles.

    We have a spending problem. Thats why were trillion dollars in debt. The last dope cut taxes while spending a crap load of money, akin to a person having his paycheck slashed and still goes on shopping sprees. The new dope picked up where the last one left off.
  • Juliet Command... 2012/05/24 00:30:51
    Juliet
    lol yes i heard about the small breasted thing last night actually LOL but playing violent video games and watching small breasted porn is not my definition of a free country. and i play plenty of violent games. they haven't cut them out. and if i wanted small breasted porn i could use the internet. Not that i would want to watch small breasted porn i find big boobs nicer although I haven't seen any enforcing of these things. I think an issue is your country is so used to being able to have everything right now. If you have enough money you could have anything from all over the world and i guess people get used to that and they dont like being inconvenienced with tax and other things like this. not saying the american people are bad. I love Americans.
  • laura Juliet 2012/07/12 19:16:15
    laura
    You really should study the meaning of liberty and acceptable use of law. Bastiat's "The Law" http://mises.org/books/thelaw... (he was a French philosopher in the 1800s) is a short dissertation what is good and bad use of law. We were created into a state of liberty, and that's the best and most successful way to govern... by encouraging and protecting liberty. If I don't trespass the rights of others, I should be able to whatever I want. The use of the law and police arm of the tax/revenue service is called PLUNDER. We legalize plunder to infringe upon the liberty of others. It's the root of socialism as well.
  • abubinc... Juliet 2012/05/23 01:26:10
    abubincrazy
    +1
    Changing leadership, cutting spending, and encouraging business is the only way to fix our situation.
    Raising taxes only suppresses the economy...
    The Euros let their governments dictate to them. That will not fly here.
    Micro-managing my life is not Washington's job.
  • laura Juliet 2012/07/12 19:11:25
    laura
    We could get out of debt if we didn't spend more than we took in. That's how it works. Spend less, pay off the debt we have, cut spending, eliminate stupid and redundant social and environmental programs, and wasteful spending.
  • abubinc... Juliet 2012/07/13 03:22:50
    abubincrazy
    We are taxed enough.
    Government spends far too much.
    I can't fathom why Europeans would WANT government to run their lives.
  • Lawnmow... Juliet 2012/07/13 03:30:44
    Lawnmowerman~PWCM~JLA
    Sorry Sheila, you can't go against Human nature...money, like power, corrupts. The more you have, the more you want. Like in Hollywood, you make 20 million, do you live in a trailer? No, you buy a house for 5 or 6 million because you have access to lots of money. Imagine how much easier it is for politicians, they don't even have to WORK for the money THEY have access to.
  • MentalC... abubinc... 2012/05/22 16:46:58
    MentalCabbage
    I think paying so much money on the U.S Army is more absurd than NOT BUYING or PAYING EXTRA ON McDonalds,Burger King or Taco Bell..
  • Maurice... MentalC... 2012/07/12 15:05:22
    Maurice Tillman
    Paying for the military is not absurd, actually. The more powerful America becomes, the more nations will become envious. Let's face. We're members of the world's largest empire. What would you rather have? A war in foreign lands or a war in New York City? This is why we spend so much on the Army and why we have such a huge National Guard and Reserve...

    However, when a person becomes mormidly obese and gets really ill, the public spends a lot of tax money on that person's gluteny. Remember that when you pay for some 400lb smoker's doctors' bill. There's a difference between being fat and being so fat you cannot function properly (such as walking down the street for more than a few blocks, squatting, or even having sex). There is no excuse to become so fat. Biologically, it is improbable for an active person to become this fat. Inactivity is the main problem. I know children that don't even know how to run! That's ridiculous. There should definitely be some for of constraint. People of today will always affect next generation.
  • wutwut abubinc... 2012/05/22 18:18:18
    wutwut
    it's not prohibiting it, jack ass....
  • ProVega abubinc... 2012/05/22 23:36:18
    ProVega
    +1
    A problem occurs when fat, over weight people can no longer care for themselves and they fall upon society to do it for them. Believe it or not, not everyone has the wisdom or willpower to keep themselves healthy. That's when government has to step in for the common good.
  • Maurice... ProVega 2012/07/12 14:55:05
    Maurice Tillman
    ...exactly!!!
  • GLaDOS 2012/05/21 23:15:44
    GLaDOS
    +5
    If you want to deal with the "fat" issue, tax carbs, not fats.
  • Juliet GLaDOS 2012/07/14 15:26:59
    Juliet
    actually it should be sugar. We need carbs
  • GLaDOS Juliet 2012/07/15 19:02:48
    GLaDOS
    Carbs are also what put weight people, because most of them don't work hard enough to necessitate as many as are being taken in on a regular basis (bread, rice, sweets, corn, etc.), unless they work in physically intense jobs, or work out a lot. Fats, on the other hand, are necessary for our brain's continued function.
  • Juliet GLaDOS 2012/07/16 07:07:58
    Juliet
    I think eating carbs daily would be better for you then eating the same amount in sugar. sadly i love sugar lol
  • GLaDOS Juliet 2012/07/17 14:50:28
    GLaDOS
    Sugar is carbs. Unless you require a long-haul store of energy, carbs are pointless, since the ones that aren't used are stored as fat, whereas taken in fat is more like a short-term energy that gets used or dumped.
  • JESSE{JWB} 2012/05/21 23:13:32
    JESSE{JWB}
    +4
    no no no no and no i'm pay a tax for fat on my food oh hell no we already got state and city taxes on food these people just want another way to grab money of out of our pockets
    i say to hell with that

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