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PUBLIC OPINION > A Libertarian Can Be Elected President One Day

SodaHead News 2012/05/16 22:00:00
As with his 1988 and 2008 presidential campaigns, Ron Paul was able to accumulate an enormously active and responsive following this year, but once again, he's wound up a little short. He's run as a third-party libertarian and as a Republican; he's run in good times and bad; he's remained (relatively) honest and incorruptible in the eyes of the public. Still, nothing. If he can't make it to the Oval Office, will a libertarian candidate ever have a shot? We asked the public.

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The results were pretty close, but in politics, you don't need much of a margin to win. 53% is more than enough to land the presidency, even if you're Grover Cleveland. If we acted like everything that hasn't happened yet could never happen, humanity would never move forward. Will it happen? Who knows. But the point is, it could. This isn't about whether or not you'd want a libertarian president, but whether or not it would be possible to break the two-party system and elect someone outside of the box. As the Top Comment wrote, "At this point, they can only try to forestall the inevitable. A free and voluntary society is coming."

Libertarians Have Faith

Conservatives were a little more likely than liberals to trust that a libertarian president could win, but they were both unconvinced. Same goes for moderates. The only political demographics that thought it could happen were libertarians (obviously) and political "others." The real kicker was how many voters fell into those categories -- 45% combined.

Smokers Could See It Happening

One thing we've noticed in the past is a correlation between smokers and libertarian thinking. We've suggested that maybe recent proposals threatening to slap graphic warnings on packs, or jack the price of a pack up to $100, are the reason smokers are so like-minded. Here, again, smokers were much more likely than nonsmokers to believe libertarians could take the presidency.

High School Hot Spot

In his books, Ron Paul describes the overwhelming response he's gotten from college students who are frustrated with the rigid two-party political structure, but the breakdown shows that college students are no more likely than anyone else. In fact, high school students were the real supporters here. 84% of high schoolers said it's possible -- almost as much as the libertarians themselves.

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  • The Bantam Seditioner 2012/05/17 00:01:07 (edited)
    The Bantam Seditioner
    +17
    All these comments bemoaning how "crazy" and "extreme" Ron Paul is supposed to be would have gotten under my skin at one time, but now they just amuse me, The enemies of liberty finally see the long-term impact of Ron Paul's campaign on the minds and hearts of Americans and they are going into full-blown panic mode.

    Unfortunately - civility and a firm grasp of logic not being most garden-variety statists' strong suit - the only tools left in their arsenal now are sophomoric shaming and social ostracism attempts using flaccid and meaningless buzzwords. "Radical!" "Crazy!" "Extreme!" is the kind of rubbish they bleat about when they can no longer find coherent justifications for their barbarically coercive models of society.

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  • Chelsea 2012/05/17 05:22:27 (edited)
    Chelsea
    +2
    Really, college students put Obama in the White House and pray tell what high school students have the emotional maturity to comprehend self sufficiency much less the attributes required to restore America? This is truly pathetic, as a conservative I have NO trust that Ron Paul has a clue about conservative values.
  • ladyjane Chelsea 2012/05/17 05:30:53
    ladyjane
    +4
    Ron Paul is the ONLY "true" conservative running!
  • Chelsea ladyjane 2012/05/17 05:38:08 (edited)
    Chelsea
    +1
    Conservatives do not support the legalization of drugs, nor do we support the removal of our military bases from outside U.S. borders. This is the United States of America, ALL Americans from sea to shining sea, not 50 independent countries. Which is what this country would look like if each state had all power to do as they pleased. Good grief you people need to get a clue! READ the CONSTITUTION!!!!
  • gregaj7 Chelsea 2012/05/17 06:35:52
    gregaj7
    +2
    Might be a good idea to do just that, especially the Preamble (in proper English) and amendments 9&10.
  • Kozmo Chelsea 2012/05/17 17:23:04
    Kozmo
    +3
    The 'War on Drugs' & "Homeland [In]Security" has shredded the Constitution in tatters.

    Big Brother is coming.,
  • bobtsu Chelsea 2012/05/17 23:00:43
    bobtsu
    I guess you didn't read the 9&10 amendment... I dont see any mention, amendments, or powers delegated to the federal government to maintain a overseas empire or a war on drugs... Did you?
  • Chelsea bobtsu 2012/05/18 05:21:22
    Chelsea
    Under illegal commerce. In fact, drugs are about the only thing the US Government has the authority to ban. If a substance is illegal in both the countries it is flowing between, it becomes the smuggling of contraband and it can be regulated.

    Treaties are formal written agreements specified by the Treaty Clause of the Constitution. The president makes a treaty with foreign powers, but then the proposed treaty must be ratified by a two-thirds vote in the Senate. For example, President Wilson proposed the Treaty of Versailles after World War I after consulting with allied powers, but this treaty was rejected by the U.S. Senate; as a result, the U.S. subsequently made separate agreements with different nations. While most international law has a broader interpretation of the term treaty, the U.S. sense of the term is more restricted. In Missouri v. Holland, the Supreme Court ruled that the power to make treaties under the U.S. Constitution is a power separate from the other enumerated powers of the federal government, and hence the federal government can use treaties to legislate in areas which would otherwise fall within the exclusive authority of the states.

    International law in most nations considers all three of the above agreements as treaties. In most nations, treaty laws s...







    Under illegal commerce. In fact, drugs are about the only thing the US Government has the authority to ban. If a substance is illegal in both the countries it is flowing between, it becomes the smuggling of contraband and it can be regulated.

    Treaties are formal written agreements specified by the Treaty Clause of the Constitution. The president makes a treaty with foreign powers, but then the proposed treaty must be ratified by a two-thirds vote in the Senate. For example, President Wilson proposed the Treaty of Versailles after World War I after consulting with allied powers, but this treaty was rejected by the U.S. Senate; as a result, the U.S. subsequently made separate agreements with different nations. While most international law has a broader interpretation of the term treaty, the U.S. sense of the term is more restricted. In Missouri v. Holland, the Supreme Court ruled that the power to make treaties under the U.S. Constitution is a power separate from the other enumerated powers of the federal government, and hence the federal government can use treaties to legislate in areas which would otherwise fall within the exclusive authority of the states.

    International law in most nations considers all three of the above agreements as treaties. In most nations, treaty laws supersede domestic law. So if there's a conflict between a treaty obligation and a domestic law, then the treaty usually prevails.

    NORAD is a Joint US/Canadian Base.

    The Commander of NORAD rotates between a US General and a Canadian General.

    The German Army also has their Air Defense School in El Paso Texas.

    There are elements of friendly foreign military personnel at almost every major military installation in the U.S. In fact, I saw a Singapore Army officer right outside of CIF at Fort Sill.
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  • Mr.Right Chelsea 2012/05/17 14:56:58
    Mr.Right
    +1
    At least votes put Obama in the white house, not the supreme court and daddy's buddies.
  • Fef 2012/05/17 05:22:09
    Fef
    +4
    just not this year... or in 4 more years... or 4 years after that...
  • gregaj7 Fef 2012/05/17 06:36:42
    gregaj7
    +2
    So, Fef, your impressed with where the R&D "show" is taking us?
  • Daniel 2012/05/17 05:14:03 (edited)
    Daniel
    +5
    BEING A MODERATE INDEPENDENT, MEANS IM LOOKING FOR HONESTY, INTEGRITY, INTELLIGENCE, COMPETENCY AND A SOLID BELIEF IN THE CONSTITUTION !.. THEN HE/SHE HAS MY VOTE.
  • ladyjane Daniel 2012/05/17 05:32:22
    ladyjane
    +2
    Ron Paul is every one of the things you're looking for.... He is a Republican...
  • Daniel ladyjane 2012/05/17 06:11:53 (edited)
    Daniel
    +2
    I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, OR LIBERTARIAN !
    IN MHAO THERE WERE 2 GREAT MODERN PRESIDENTS. JF KENNEDY AND R. REGAN....... NOW CLINTON, THOUGH VERY INTELLIGENT AND LIKABLE WAS A WORTHLESS, UNETHICAL, IMMORAL, AND CORRUPT HUMAN BEING.

    I WOULDN'T LET HIM WALK MY DOG ! BUSH SNR AND JR WERE BOTH CORRUPT AND EVIL, MRS CLINTON IS STILL WICKED, EVIL, AND A HABITUAL LIER, SHE IS AMORALE AND A DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATH JUST THE SAME CREDENTIALS AS OBAMA.

    I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ROMNEY IS A HONEST POLITICIAN, I THINK HE IS A NWO PUPPET. BUT NOT SURE YET. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE MY MIND.
    THE ONLY CANDIDATE I TRUST TO NOT BE A NWO PUPPET IS RON PAUL AND MAYBE WEST! WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS RUNNING MATES.
  • Mr.Right Daniel 2012/05/17 14:58:46
    Mr.Right
    +2
    Reagan was a tool. Clinton was the best president in my lifetime (which goes back to Truman).
  • Kozmo Mr.Right 2012/05/17 17:30:41
    Kozmo
    Beware of Actors (ask Lincoln). Remember the "We'll begin bombing (the Soviets) in 5 Minutes" case of Foot in Mouth?

    He also stated publicly that he thought ICBMs (missiles) could be 'recalled' or aborted.

    Where would we be if he thought to pull off such a joke on Brezhnev?
  • Daniel Mr.Right 2012/05/18 05:41:21 (edited)
    Daniel
    cant we agree to disagree without violence?
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/17 04:54:27
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +2
    I don't think it's possible.
  • justsomeguy151 2012/05/17 04:33:11
  • ☮ Ron ☮ Paul ☮ 2012! ☮ 2012/05/17 04:28:29
    ☮ Ron ☮ Paul ☮ 2012! ☮
    +7
    Ron Paul will be our next president!
  • dannyS ☮ Ron ☮... 2012/05/17 08:09:24
  • ☮ Ron ☮... dannyS 2012/05/17 14:45:07
    ☮ Ron ☮ Paul ☮ 2012! ☮
    +1
    No. As a Catholic I'm not afraid to put all my trust in God. And on a much lower level, (government,) I'm willing to put my faith in Ron Paul. I'm not in it for the weed... I don't do drugs, of any kind, smoke cigarettes, chew tobacco, drink coffee, or alcohol.
  • Mr.Right ☮ Ron ☮... 2012/05/17 14:59:43
    Mr.Right
    maybe you should
  • ☮ Ron ☮... Mr.Right 2012/05/17 15:04:31
    ☮ Ron ☮ Paul ☮ 2012! ☮
    +2
    No. I don't need it.
  • Mr.Right ☮ Ron ☮... 2012/06/13 14:51:08
    Mr.Right
    maybe you do
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/05/17 04:20:25
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    +2
    Anything is possible
  • U Mad Bro? 2012/05/17 04:01:44 (edited)
    U Mad Bro?
    +3
    He hasn't come short. In multiple primaries Ron Paul was slated to win but the GOP and their vote counters kept taking a little too much time to count votes, leading to a whistle blower in the Maine primaries to reveal that the votes were altered to favor Romney and others.
    https://www.revolutionpac.com...

    Not only that, Ron Paul is not dropping out, CNN blatantly lied to benefit their savoir Jesus Chr... I mean Obama.
    http://dailypaulradio.com/rad...

    Last but not least, the illegal means which Romney has used to "get more" votes.
    http://libertarianreview.us/2...
  • ladyjane U Mad Bro? 2012/05/17 05:40:59
    ladyjane
    +3
    You're right! Ron Paul is still running strong... I'm not voting for the one that the New World Order has decided that we as sheeple are allowed to vote for... I'll vote for the person of my choice...I hope that there are more people like me than the ones that are being good little sheep!
  • joe mauro 2012/05/17 03:18:45
    joe mauro
    +3
    yes it will take time for the public to realize that all traditonal political parties in the usa have stopped serving them and only complicate and otherwise disrupt their lives.We must come to realize the self serving rodents we call politicans,lobbyists and the news media are destroying us.
  • jumpboots 187th PIR 2012/05/17 03:13:23
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    +2
    Nice guy but still a career politician.
  • Arizona... jumpboo... 2012/05/17 05:35:26
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Despite the different clocks and the different methods of aggregating voter preferences, if voter preferences are such that the median senator is a socialist, whether elected by mistake or design, the median representative is unlikely to be a libertarian.

    “One of the great tragedies of human history is the difficulty of escaping from tyranny, since tyrants so ruthlessly maintain their power.”

    http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/...

    For those who continue to support the status quo, you send a clear message to Washington that our Constitution, it’s Laws, and the value of liberty just doesn’t matter and in return they send another wannabe liar-in-chief for the 2012 election. Is this what you want for America’s future?
  • jumpboo... Arizona... 2012/05/17 19:10:10
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    Won't vote for a career politician. You can call it what you want to. I'm voting for the economy,and to get people back to work. The only status quo,I see is Paul...
  • mustangluver 2012/05/17 03:06:49
    mustangluver
    +1
    I think we have more then enough problems with just 2 parties.
  • Shane mustang... 2012/05/17 03:49:58
    Shane
    +1
    Yeah why don't we just have one party? That's what we need!

    Dumbass
  • mustang... Shane 2012/05/17 04:34:28
    mustangluver
    +1
    Who's a dumbass..
  • Red_Horse 2012/05/17 03:02:57
  • joe mauro Red_Horse 2012/05/17 03:19:44
    joe mauro
    +4
    lighten up and light up
  • Red_Horse joe mauro 2012/05/17 03:20:38
  • Shane Red_Horse 2012/05/17 03:51:27
    Shane
    +2
    Yeah, because the government making raw milk, weed, etc. illegal is totally fair! Here's a list of what you can and cant do with your body, because it belongs to the government and not you right?
  • Red_Horse Shane 2012/05/17 03:52:46
  • Shane Red_Horse 2012/05/17 03:58:14
    Shane
    +1
    Then why do you not agree with the guy saying that it's not just for the government to tell you what to do with your body? That's what the whole libertarian position is. Drugs are bad for you, but others don't have a right to tell you what to put in your body.

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