I think circumcision is helpful in the prevention of infections (along with a soap bar of course) and it helps prevent penile cancer and possible cervical cancer in their partners. Its also done for religious purposes and that should be respected even if not understood.
What I don't understand is how we can get all worked up over taking a piece of skin off of a babies penis the moment they are born, but its ok when they are coming out the birth canal to stab a pair of sissors in the back of their heads and suck their brains out before they take their first breath of air. (partial birth abortion) God help this Country. Just an opinion ... I don't need a ton of mean , sarcastic replies.
Proposal To Ban Circumcision: Should the proposal pass?
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Many European Parliamentary parties are considering banning the circumcision on new born boys. The circumcision of girls has already been banned for many years now, but now boys may not be able to legally circumcised in certain European countries. Circumcision was originally a Jewish tradition, but many Muslim and Christians have supported the practice for many years as well. Why you ask? Because many people feel that boys or men should be able to decide for themselves whether they would like to be circumcised. The age of consent and jurisdiction over ones own body is 15 in Denmark where this proposal started.
Should the proposal to ban circumcision pass? Should circumcision be left up to the individual?
Should the proposal to ban circumcision pass? Should circumcision be left up to the individual?
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kkat 2008/11/21 17:43:17
Other things on our so called "divinely created intelligently designed bodies": toenails (good for what...scratching the back of your leg?), wisdom teeth (there's no room in the mouth, most grow in sideways and have to be removed), unneeded and unwanted hair (who wants or needs hair everywhere), the position of the prostate gland in males (it can block the flow of urine), the position of the urethra and the vaginal opening in females (this causes urinary infections), the position of the vaginal opening and the anus on females(causes vaginal infections).
Why would god create the male with a foreskin, and then make it mandatory that it be cut off? Doesn't make any sense to me. What does make sense is that it all evolved, and these are just remnants of things no longer needed that have not evolved out yet.
Sexual:
1. Erotic pleasure, especially via the ridged band and Meissner's corpuscles
2. Acts as a rolling bearing in intercourse and masturbation
3. Prevents dyspareunia (painful intercourse)
4. Stimulates partner's genitalia, giving erotic pleasure (much like ribbed condoms)
5. Supplies skin to cover the shaft in erection and prevent tightness
6. Stores pheromones and releases them on arousal
7. Stores, releases and helps distribute natural lubricants ("smega" and pre-ejaculatory fluid)
8. Makes the glans a visual signal of sexual arousal
9. Provides a seal against the vaginal wall to contain semen
Protective:
10. Prevents the glans becoming keratinised, and keeps it soft and moist
11. Protects the thin-skinned glans against injury
12. Protects the nerves of the glans, retaining their erotic function
13. In infancy, protects the urethra against contamination, meatal stenosis, (and UTIs?)
14. Provides lysosomes for bacteriostatic action around the glans
15. Pigmented, it protects the unpigmented glans against sunburn
16. Vascular (rich in blood vessels that bring heat to the tissues), it protects the less vascular glans against frostbite, as Sir Ranulph Fiennes found on his epic transpolar walk.
Other:
17. Provides skin for grafts to burnt eyelids, reconstructive surge...
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Sexual:
1. Erotic pleasure, especially via the ridged band and Meissner's corpuscles
2. Acts as a rolling bearing in intercourse and masturbation
3. Prevents dyspareunia (painful intercourse)
4. Stimulates partner's genitalia, giving erotic pleasure (much like ribbed condoms)
5. Supplies skin to cover the shaft in erection and prevent tightness
6. Stores pheromones and releases them on arousal
7. Stores, releases and helps distribute natural lubricants ("smega" and pre-ejaculatory fluid)
8. Makes the glans a visual signal of sexual arousal
9. Provides a seal against the vaginal wall to contain semen
Protective:
10. Prevents the glans becoming keratinised, and keeps it soft and moist
11. Protects the thin-skinned glans against injury
12. Protects the nerves of the glans, retaining their erotic function
13. In infancy, protects the urethra against contamination, meatal stenosis, (and UTIs?)
14. Provides lysosomes for bacteriostatic action around the glans
15. Pigmented, it protects the unpigmented glans against sunburn
16. Vascular (rich in blood vessels that bring heat to the tissues), it protects the less vascular glans against frostbite, as Sir Ranulph Fiennes found on his epic transpolar walk.
Other:
17. Provides skin for grafts to burnt eyelids, reconstructive surgery, etc.
18. "The foreskin is important embryologically in the formation of the end of the penis and the urethra. If there is no foreskin the urethral opening is not at the end of the penis where it should be, but somewhere on the underside of the penis (hypospadius [sic])." - Dr Edgar Schoen (!) (but he claims that is its only function)
19. Holds absorbant tissue in place after urethral surgery, in case of minimal incontinence, etc.
20. Storage of small objects and contra ban, smuggled jewels, etc. - not all recommended uses ... :P
Gods BTW rarely demand token sacrifices what would be the point. ;)
Why do men have nipples? They definitely serve no purpose for men. Seems to me they are some sort of evolutionary appendage that has not evolved out as yet, but absolutely had no original purpose so should not have been "created" on the male body in the first place. Creation makes no sense, especially if you call it intelligent.
what i think is God didn't DEMAND we remove the foreskin as you might think the only thing god really DEMANDS us to do is believe in him and follow him i believe the foreskin issue as i said wasn't demanded it was asked as a test so to speak to prove rather or not they were faithful THAT however didn't last very long because it says so in the bible later on as Joe pointed out i think in Galations however ppl STILL do it cause they think God STILL expects us to do it when in fact he does not and has not for MAYBE over a 1000 yrs now as far the toenails and nipples on men LOL i don't even KNOW how to address that issue other than the fact that God doesn't make mistakes sometimes we might say that he did or does but in fact he doesn't.. for example sometimes i'll get pissed off at a female and say God made a mistake when he made women LOL however that doesn't mean he DID i just say it when i get mad @ them lol
personally i get tired of ppl using God/the bible/religion for there arguments on issues they don't agree with or don't understand instead of listening to what God/the bible/religion say about what they do or not do in there own lives
If God is omniscient (all-knowing) didn't he know when he created the foreskin that he was going to ask for it to be removed to prove faith and to appease his anger? Does he like to see men and boys suffer? How capricious; create it then demand it be removed knowing it will cause pain. Do this, or I will become anger, and we all know from reading the Bible (the good book) what his wrath is like. He has killed over 3 million people, men, women and children.
In Exodus chapters 3 and 4 is the story of Moses. God told Moses to go to Egypt and free his people from slavery. However, God changed his mind and decided to kill Moses. Moses' wife Zipporah realized that God must be mad because their son Gershom had not been circumcised. So she grabbed a sharp stone and began cutting and ripping around the head of Greshom’s penis to remove the foreskin. God saw the blood, heard the screams, and realized that Moses and his wife were sincere, so God stopped being angry and let Moses live.
Capricious, vindictive, mean…oh yeah. But he loves us.
Most of those beliefs were wives tales that bled into the medical world. They don't get infected if you rinse them with warm water at every bath. So difficult you know?
Well, I still think that it should be up to the parents. I went to school with several guys that weren't circumcized and they got made fun of so bad. Then one time after football practice the boys were coming out of the locker room talking about his infection. Sorry, but I care about my son's feelings. It's not like he's still in pain because he was circumcized. It would be different if it scared him for the rest of his life, but sorry - It won't. That's like saying don't give your kids shots because it's torturing them. That's like saying don't let your kids run because they could fall and hurt themselves and that's torturing them. It's not torture and that's an irrelevant argument. Sorry, it's just my opinion.
For some reason studies which find no benefit to circumcision though don't quite get the press coverage that ones which find a benefit do, even if the results don't match existing knowledge.
Just out of curiosity, what religion do you practice that you find current regulations restrictive?
should we continue to stone someone to death when they commit a crime? if it weren't for the law (or govt) then even tho we don't go by those laws according to the bible anymore ppl would STILL be doing them cause "the bible" says so ppl read certain things in the bible that happened a million yrs ago and think we should still practice those issues even tho later on in the bible it says different