I think that when it comes to reproduction rights that after counseling, a minor should be allowed abortion under certain circumstances. There are parents who would force a child to go through pregnancy when it isn't in the best interest of the child, or the unborn baby. I feel that a minor who is seeking an abortion should have counseling, and access.
I feel if you are old enough to become pregnant, that negates "un-emancipated minor". I feel that immediately should "emancipate" you - at least to determine if you want to have a baby.
The real issue is that children, especially those of child bearing age, should be informed about birth control, in addition to abstinence. After all, we all know that abstinence doesn't work unless it's practiced, and with teens, it isn't always. They need to be aware of safe sex practices in regard to disease prevention, AS WELL AS contraception.
Prop 4 Abortion Rights: How would you vote on Proposition 4?
Mr. T
2008/10/29 20:36:48
For those unaware of what proposition 4 states, Prop 4 says that un-emancipated minors cannot get an abortion until 48 hours AFTER a physician has notified the minor's legal guardian. In simple terms... a minor can't get an abortion without notifying a parent. Prop 4 mandates reporting requirements from physicians regarding abortions done on minors.
However, Prop 4 does allow courts to waive this rule with enough convincing evidence of the minor's maturity or best interest. As well, Proposition 4 requires minor's consent to abortion (with certain exceptions).
Prop 4 is intended to protect children and lower the states costs of millions annually on social service programs.
How would you vote on Prop 4?
However, Prop 4 does allow courts to waive this rule with enough convincing evidence of the minor's maturity or best interest. As well, Proposition 4 requires minor's consent to abortion (with certain exceptions).
Prop 4 is intended to protect children and lower the states costs of millions annually on social service programs.
How would you vote on Prop 4?
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ptete in left I trust ~ POT... 2008/10/29 20:56:37No on Proposition 4 regarding abortion rights.


















Reasons to be pro-choice no matter what.
1. The government cannot be trusted to decide who should have an abortion, and under what circumstances. If you disagree with this statement, you should pay more attention to the news.
2. Women cannot be truly free unless they are able to make their own reproductive decisions.
3. Abusive men will often try to get their partners pregnant to keep them from ending the abusive relationship. (I have personal experience of cases where men have gone so far as to tamper with their partners’ contraceptives).
4. If abortions are not safe and legal, many women will attempt to terminate pregnancies themselves, just like they did before safe abortions were legal, or else will be preyed upon by untrained opportunists who will take their money and hurt or kill them attempting to perform the procedure.
5. If abortions are not safe and legal, some doctors will perform them anyway, and charge outrageous prices. Women who can afford to pay outrageous prices, or who know doctors willing to do the procedures, will still be able to have abortions. But women who are not so fortunate will not. So, criminalizing abortion is the same as government discrimination against people who earn little inco...
Reasons to be pro-choice no matter what.
1. The government cannot be trusted to decide who should have an abortion, and under what circumstances. If you disagree with this statement, you should pay more attention to the news.
2. Women cannot be truly free unless they are able to make their own reproductive decisions.
3. Abusive men will often try to get their partners pregnant to keep them from ending the abusive relationship. (I have personal experience of cases where men have gone so far as to tamper with their partners’ contraceptives).
4. If abortions are not safe and legal, many women will attempt to terminate pregnancies themselves, just like they did before safe abortions were legal, or else will be preyed upon by untrained opportunists who will take their money and hurt or kill them attempting to perform the procedure.
5. If abortions are not safe and legal, some doctors will perform them anyway, and charge outrageous prices. Women who can afford to pay outrageous prices, or who know doctors willing to do the procedures, will still be able to have abortions. But women who are not so fortunate will not. So, criminalizing abortion is the same as government discrimination against people who earn little income, and against people who don’t have the right connections.
6. Sometimes complications with pregnancy are life-threatening. If abortions are not safe and legal, pregnancy will be a death sentence for some women.
7. The moment abortion is criminalized, the religious right will attack contraception, on the rationale that easy access to contraception encourages “promiscuity.” Contraception has only been freely available to all women since the early 1970s. Some people are already in favor of banning contraception.
8. Nearly every anti-choice person I have ever met has been in favor of the death penalty and an aggressive military. The “culture of life” rhetoric is a sham, designed to produce arguments which are impossible to counter. It’s another version of that old trick question: “Have you stopped beating your wife?”
9. The abortion issue isn’t really about “protecting the unborn.” If we examine the other positions that usually go along with being anti-choice, and if we talk honestly about them, we discover that criminalizing abortion is really about making it harder for women to make their own choices about when to have sex, and with whom. Criminalizing abortion is really about reversing the progress toward gender equality we’ve made over the last century. It’s about returning women to the status of second-class citizens. The real reason the religious right embraces the anti-choice stance is because they believe women should be submissive to men. But, saying that straight up would be political poison, so they talk about a “culture of life.”
10. If abortion is criminalized, a lot of women will still seek abortions. The government will prosecute thousands of these women to show that they mean business about enforcing the law. The women prosecuted will come overwhelmingly from minority and lower income segments of the population.
(And I haven’t even mentioned incest or rape)
Maybe they should just have parties where their friends punch them really hard in the stomach after drinking way too much....that sounds better than having an abortion. that's the sort of thing that starts to happen when people can't get abortions.
you must live in a little bubble...
Shit I meant to put no!
Let's look at China. China advocates government intervention in decisions regarding procreation and now has a surplus of 'stronger-male-labor' without women to marry. Remember the slippery slope!!!
If possible abstenance from sex should be encouraged by education and scientific fact.
Abstenance does NOT mean to abstain from discussing it.
I do not, however, support prop 4. Some teenagers who aren't abused by their parents, but know something bad will happen to them if their parents are informed about their pregnancy, will get backalley abortions, far more dangerous and likely to be fatal.