Progressive ideology is the root cause of the increase in mass shootings

☆astac☆~PWCM 2012/12/22 18:31:54
Why do liberals and progressives refuse to see the fact that it is their ideology that has caused the nation to turn to immorality and violence, that leads to mass shootings like what we witnessed at Sandy Hook. Since the 60's the liberals and progressives in America have been at war with traditional American Culture. The American left has waged an all out war against Christians in America, they have fought to push the Christian faith out of the public eye, and to make Christians look like a group of people who needed to be attacked.
This leads to a problem with definitions, notably Atheism. Atheism is absent a belief in God or Gods, so these atheists are not intolerant people, they really do not care one way or the other, and they do not attack others for their religious beliefs.
Agnostics on the other hand are fence sitters, they take the approach of show me the proof, and once again they do not attack those who hold religious beliefs.

Now secular humanists, they are the problem, they claim to be atheist or even agnostic, but that is a lie, Secular humanism is a religion, and they have a belief that runs at odds with Christian beliefs, and is at odd with those who seek a traditional moral based society.
For what ever reason secular humanists like to say they are not a religion, but they are in fact a religion.
The founders of secular humanism called their beliefs a religion


John Dewey described Humanism as our "common faith." Julian Huxley called it "Religion without Revelation." The first Humanist Manifesto spoke openly of Humanism as a religion. Many other Humanists could be cited who have acknowledged that Humanism is a religion. In fact, claiming that Humanism was "the new religion" was trendy for at least 100 years, perhaps beginning in 1875 with the publication of The Religion of Humanity by Octavius Brooks Frothingham (1822-1895), son of the distinguished Unitarian clergyman, Nathaniel Langdon Frothingham (1793-1870), pastor of the First Unitarian Church of Boston, 1815-1850. In the 1950's, Humanists sought and obtained tax-exempt status as religious organizations. Even the Supreme Court of the United States spoke in 1961 of Secular Humanism as a religion. It was a struggle to get atheism accepted as a religion, but it happened. From 1962-1980 this was not a controversial issue.

So if the founders of Secular humanism called their beliefs a religion, the question is why those who are secular humanists try to deny that indeed their beliefs are a religion. The reason why secular humanists deny they are a religion, is because they are attacking the religious beliefs of the Christians, and they do not want this attack to be seen as a religious war of beliefs.


the symptoms of cultural decay were clear from the 1960s onward — changes in beliefs regarding sexuality, and the right of a child to live in its mother’s womb. Those in the forefront of popularized Christianity took on these issues. These Christians were then attacked because society viewed them as inhibitors to progress and the freedom of other worldviews.

The media does not realize how inhibiting some Eastern religions would be if they held sway in our society. For some reason, they think Christians are fair game, and they can attack the Christian worldview.

Another reason for this attack is the conflicts that came on the moral landscape. Those who questioned this moral degeneracy were seen as coming from the Judeo-Christian worldview, and they had to be silenced. Allah, Samuel Harris, and Daniel Dennett were saying that inhibitions and prejudicial views on sexuality have come to us from the Christian worldview. Therefore, the Christian worldview is the enemy to be taken out.

So where is this leading us too, with the secular attack against Christian beliefs and Traditional beliefs, our society is turning into a very immoral degenerate society.
The secular humanists support everything that is degenerate from homosexuality to adults preying on children for sexual pleasures. It is an established fact that the progressives have invaded our public education system, and instead of teaching the 3 R's, these so called progressive educators are preaching such immoral acts as homosexuality is normal, attacking Christian beliefs is ok, and celebrating a culture that lacks morals and any sense of decency is the goal that students should strive for


Humanism strives to impose on mankind a human type and style of life opposed to the hierarchical order that God established. It seeks to level society and make it as dissimilar to God as possible. While creating laws that promote and support immorality and the erosion of our constitutional rights, these humanists are slowly watering down our culture and traditional values. And if we don’t stem the tide soon, it will lead to the total evaporation of the America we once knew.

This letter to the editor in a small newspaper shows that people are seeing what is wrong with the secular approach to our nation

Immorality unraveling our traditional values


The “dark night” in Colorado has sadly shocked Americans back into reality on how fast our society is unraveling. Tragedies such as this are on the rise and are only the tip of the iceberg. Our bad economy is not the cause for these terrible occurrences. What’s breaking down America is our disregard for morality.

Consider these stories that made the headlines:

• The No. 1 book on the New York Times fiction best-seller list is “Fifty Shades of Grey,” the erotic novels by E.L. James described as “mommy porn.”

• Cannibalistic acts.

• Sexting and sexual abuse is seemingly rampant in schools across the country as students seek approval in the wrong places from their classmates and teachers.

The problem is that we are a nation no longer guided by the Ten Commandments and the moral law, but rather by the whims and edicts of socialists and liberal humanists.

Humanism strives to impose on mankind a human type and style of life opposed to the hierarchical order that God established. It seeks to level society and make it as dissimilar to God as possible. While creating laws that promote and support immorality and the erosion of our constitutional rights, these humanists are slowly watering down our culture and traditional values. And if we don’t stem the tide soon, it will lead to the total evaporation of the America we once knew.

So as the American left drags our society into the immoral hell we are becoming, what do we see
We see an increase of teens and young adults being pushed into a life of drugs and immoral sexuality, which is being pushed on them by the progressive educators
We see a growing intolerance of the American people towards people of the Christian faith and Traditional morals.
We see an American culture that is seeking more and more violent entertainment and media, which is desensitizing American culture to violence and death.

This is why we see an increase in the mass shootings that are happening. This is the end result of the progressives forcing their beliefs on society.
And until we address these issues, our violent culture will continue to grow more violent and intolerant.
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  • LisaMerkow 2012/12/23 00:36:39
    I agree, but for different reasons. I believe that the Progressive ideology in the schools that embrace fairness are flawed to the point of decay. At my kids school EVERYTHING has to be fair. They discourage achievement! Instead of providing opportunities to the weaker among us, they reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator. Every kid gets a turn, every kid gets a trophy, every kid gets a certificate! They have ZERO coping skills by the time they are 10 because they've never had to overcome frustration or failure. Mentally ill or otherwise, there are a lot of kids who just can't cope!

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  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2012/12/28 07:15:07
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    As long as Obama is POTUS, rest assure violence will increase. Thats what happens when a Marxist POTUS does everything in his power to decrease the economy and private sector jobs. It also occurs when a regressive POTUS purposely race and class splits.
  • Sissy 2012/12/24 12:09:34
    What an utter bunch of pure unadulrated
  • ☆astac☆... Sissy 2012/12/24 14:12:51
    Hi liar, you are the problem
  • Annie~P... ☆astac☆... 2012/12/28 07:15:50
  • Marek 2012/12/23 23:51:41
    Demoralization stage of subversion proces is complete and we are in the stage of destabilization when the marxist vermin is setting us up at each other throats with their class warfare rethoric.
  • Annie~P... Marek 2012/12/28 07:16:25
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    My thoughts entirely.
  • urwutuis 2012/12/23 19:06:34
    This is just another pitiful attempt to politicize a tragic event and promote an agenda.
    A perfect example of assumption based reasoning without evidence.
    I would say it's flawed logic but that would imply there was logic involved.

    The true cause of these events is the level of inequality that now exists. The unfair distribution of resources is corrosive and when it comes to inequality the US is second only to the UK which is also on the verge of collapse
    On a sliding scale, societies with wider wealth and income gaps have higher instances of virtually all social ills from violent crime and drug addiction to teenage pregnancy and infant mortality which should be of particular interest to pro life.

    Posts like this show the propaganda is doing exactly what it was designed to do.
    Divide, distract and misdirect. It's purpose is to give people a target for hate and someone else to blame
    So much for personal responsibility.
  • ☆astac☆... urwutuis 2012/12/23 19:33:37
    Wrong, it is the progressives turning this issue into a political attempt to restrict our rights. The true cause of these events is progressive ideology that makes every one poor and slaves to the state
  • urwutuis ☆astac☆... 2012/12/24 05:05:47
    Always looking for someone else to blame
    I haven't seen a single post claiming conservatives were the cause of Sandy Hook. I've seen several blaming liberals and the true cause is not liberal ideology. That's nothing but party rhetoric which is exactly what I was talking about. You don't even recognize it after it's been pointed out.
    This post is exactly what they're hoping for.
    Division and distraction and both sides are milking it for all it's worth. You have mistakenly taken the different names, Democrat and Republican, to mean they are 2 different parties when in reality they are 2 arms of the same party. They win either way.
    Don't you see it?
    You might want to do a little research on the cost of inequality or inequality and any social issue and brush up on propaganda tactics while you're at it.
    You might even want to learn something about a particular perspective before you condemn it. If you're not real careful you might learn something
  • ☆astac☆... urwutuis 2012/12/24 05:13:20
    Nope, I am placing blame where it belongs. Liberal/progressive ideology is what gave us Sandy Hook.
  • Annie~P... urwutuis 2012/12/28 07:18:13
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    I haven't seen a single post claiming conservatives were the cause of Sandy Hook.
    End Quote

    You haven't been looking that hard then urwutuis.
  • urwutuis Annie~P... 2012/12/28 18:05:39
    I'll admit I didn't go out of my way but I'm as opposed to gun control as anyone.
    I also believe this is just another wedge issue and the two parties have the same goal. More gov power. Along with dividing the public they either get fewer guns or more police. Either way they win and what appears to be incompetence is actually collusion.
    No matter who's in office the agenda of the NWO marches on.
  • Mike 2012/12/23 17:38:53
  • Batou 2012/12/23 17:29:25
    Yes. Yes. It's all secular humanists' and progressives' fault. They probably also made Catholic priests and Christian boyscout leaders rape little kids. Funny how those on the forefront of popularized Christianity didn't talk about it. Guess sexual abuse of little children and decades of coverup that made it possible to go on weren't reflections of moral degeneracy in the author's mind. Probably also the fault of secular humanists and progressives.

    A rational person would think with Christians being a vast majority of US population and controlling all the levers of state they'd be responsible for at least something since 1960s, but I guess that's not the case either.

    And of course it was secular humanists that made Christians in power fund every murderous dictator, start every war, and openly advocate genocide of millions upon millions of civilians. Even though those in power have been doing all these things long before 1960s.

    It's nice to know that for astac and other paragons of Judeo-Christian values shirking responsibility involves no moral degeneracy. Quiet a convenient little worldview.
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/23 17:38:19
    Those catholic priests and boy scout leaders that raped the little boys are homosexuals
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/23 18:03:30
    Whatever helps you believe that Catholic church and Boy Scout coverups were someone else's fault.

    Are you aware that you are making the same argument as sociopath Anders Brevik? Just curious.
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/23 18:08:49
    The fact that they were and are homosexuals is something you like to ignore, as it proves that you people are immoral at best
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/23 18:16:36 (edited)
    Catholic church and Boy Scouts went out of their way for decades to make it possible for the child rapes to keep going, because people like me are immoral at best???

    Wow. So that's how you guys get back at atheists? Coverup child abuse?
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/23 18:22:05
    What you keep refusing to admit is that those who did the abuse were homosexuals
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/23 19:20:55
    It makes no difference to me what they were.

    I'm pointing out that the institutions you claim to be hallmarks of moral values are the ones that made the child abuse and moral degeneracy that came with it possible and were the ones that perpetuated it for all the years. Ergo decades of child rapes.
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/23 19:33:51
    They are homosexuals
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/23 19:38:29
    Catholic church and Boy Scouts are homosexuals??
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/23 20:08:00
    Those that were and are sexually abusing the boys are
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/23 20:44:27
    Is that why Cathlic church and Boy Scouts have been covering it up??
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/23 20:51:34
    Why are you running away from the fact that they are homosexuals, people you support and encourage
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/24 01:27:51
    There is no need to lie. I don't support Catholic Church or Boy Scouts. Matter of fact, you think the institutions that defended and covered up the child rapes and abuse are beacons of moral authority, which is much closer to being support and encouragement of child abuse and moral degeneracy.
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/24 01:53:55
    You support homosexuals preying on young boys
  • Batou ☆astac☆... 2012/12/24 02:04:16
    No, I don't. Why are you lying about me?
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/24 02:05:53
    Your lying posts about the church say otherwise
  • Sissy Batou 2012/12/24 12:13:07
    You have to really "know" this poster Batou. He has absolutely no intention of EVER having a civil, respectful, decent disussion with anyone who does not believe in the same sick ideology he spews. He has said as much, that his intention is to attack, insult, an assault anyone Left of Center. It would be well worth your time to seek out a debate with someone who truly wants one of substance. This guy doesn't have a clue or a care how to have one.
  • ☆astac☆... Sissy 2012/12/24 14:13:22
    So says the hater
  • Jay Theyme Batou 2012/12/23 21:32:29
    Jay Theyme
    astac has pretty much hung you with your own idea re: church abuses,
    I do agree, in part and at least in 'principle' that every corner of our modern Western society has sank or can we say 'lowered the bar'.
    Sure, its not only 'swingers clubs' becoming something actually legitimate and then 'gay bars' becoming a popular comical foil for sitcoms or massive deluges of porn entertaining the orgy crowds.
    The 'bar' lowered for everyday couples and 'the new normal' was lower for regular church attenders and traditional farm families and really we all started dropping along with it.
    I do believe that.
    So yes (at least in principle) yes I do believe the massive 'dropping of the bar' has effected and sunk all of us some degree.
    And we went for it.
  • Batou Jay Theyme 2012/12/24 02:01:22 (edited)
    Pretty sure Catholic Church and Boy Scouts have been defending and covering up child molesters a long time before I mentioned it. So that was their idea, not mine. And how such repugnant practices hung anyone other than those committing the abuses, the institutions and those who supported the institutions is not clear at all.

    What concerns the "lowering of the bar" that already happened a long time ago for those who are more offended by gay clubs and porn than by society starting wars, funding murderous dictators, torture, advocacy of genocide, and other practices that would shock conscience of a halfway decent person.
  • ☆astac☆... Batou 2012/12/24 02:06:27
    And again, those doing the abusing are homosexuals, people you support
  • Jay Theyme Batou 2012/12/24 02:34:50
    Jay Theyme
    But now you are changing the complaint (not about homosexuals themselves) but about the response by the RCs (or boy scouts) (throw the BBC in there now) or in my cities case: The Police Force.
    The only reason you get to act judgmental and morally superior than a handful of places within these organizations is by 20-20 hindsight.
    Yep, there were a handful of groups who, back in the 50s, 60s and so on did not act quick enough or understand the real problem properly.
    Fortunately, as child molestation is a grievous and most antiCatholic crime and sin - MOST acted properly to defend against the homosexuals infiltrating their organizations.
    Today the Roman Catholics have the best and safest policies and structures in place bar none.

    And I'm not sure why you think introducing new problems and 'lowering the bar further' somehow gets 'canceled out' or 'mitigated' by some other problems?
    Oh wait yes I do understand - you, yourself are a liberal convert and hold a kind of moral and religious belief that '2 wrongs make a right' and that kind of moral relativism.
    Homosexuals molest kids? HEY.. Hey hey.. but SOMEONE ELSE didn't report it properly!! Therefore it 'cancels out' the 'wrong' of the homosexual see!
    That's you.
    That's your 'religious belief' and its disgusting.
  • dawn 2012/12/23 16:32:34
    And all you'll get from this article of truth is being told you're a hater, bigot, uncivil & judgemental. Yet as you rightly stated the violence will continue to grow worse & worse, while the Left continues to blame guns, planes, automobiles, knives, stones, ANY & ALL inanimate objects for the growing mayhem. It's like they hate humans, especially children. Kill them before they're able to be born, & if lucky enough to be born, pollute their brains so full of junk that they'll die early. And the irony of it all is that they consider themselves to be compassionate--maybe they are, to polar bears, tree frogs & minnow fish--but human beings need not apply!
  • ☆astac☆... dawn 2012/12/23 16:38:17
    So very true, what the liberals are doing is destroying the minds of the young, we now have generations of these people indoctrinated in our public education system. Why do you think countries like China are expanding their military, they see what the liberals are doing here, and they know it is just a matter of say 20 years where America will no longer be able to lead.
  • Surly Curmudgen 2012/12/23 16:25:56
    Surly Curmudgen
    "It is an established fact that the progressives have invaded our public education system, and instead of teaching the 3 R's, these so called progressive educators are preaching such immoral acts as homosexuality is normal, attacking Christian beliefs is ok, and celebrating a culture that lacks morals and any sense of decency is the goal that students should strive for"

    John Dewey laid out the plan to accomplish the above and yes he was a follower and believer of Karl Marx. In the recent past to the present, William Ayers has been busy furthering that plan. Yes that William Ayers, American terrorist who desires the destruction of our nation, fast friend of Obama, who is an habitue of Mans country a male homosexual club in Chicago, Yes that Obama, the one who has fraudulently usurped the office of President of the United States.
  • ☆astac☆... Surly C... 2012/12/23 16:38:58
    And it is our destruction they seek.
  • R.J. 2012/12/23 07:32:25
    LOL Really? LOL Nut! LOL INTOLERANT yee---yee--- LOL can't take it LOL stop HO stop it!!!! LOL yOUR Killing me, LOL LOL !!!!

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