Program to ID illegals using fingerprints draws criticism - Would deport more illegals than Arizona law!

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Program to ID illegals using fingerprints draws criticism

DENVER (AP) — The federal government is rapidly expanding a program to identify illegal immigrants using fingerprints from arrests, drawing opposition from local authorities and advocates who argue the initiative amounts to an excessive dragnet.

The program has gotten less attention than Arizona's new immigration law, but it may end up having a bigger impact because of its potential to round up and deport so many immigrants nationwide.

The San Francisco sheriff wanted nothing to do with the program, and the City Council in Washington, D.C., blocked use of the fingerprint plan in the nation's capital. Colorado is the latest to debate the program, called Secure Communities, and immigrant groups have begun to speak up, telling the governor in a letter last week that the initiative will make crime victims reluctant to cooperate with police "due to fear of being drawn into the immigration regime."

Under the program, the fingerprints of everyone who is booked into jail for any crime are run against FBI criminal history records and Department of Homeland Security immigration records to determine who is in the country illegally and whether they've been arrested previously. Most jurisdictions are not included in the program, but Immigration and Customs Enforcement has been expanding the initiative.

Since 2007, 467 jurisdictions in 26 states have joined. ICE has said it plans to have it in every jail in the country by 2013. Secure Communities is currently being phased into the places where the government sees as having the greatest need for it based on population estimates of illegal immigrants and crime statistics.

Since everyone arrested would be screened, the program could easily deport more people than Arizona's new law, said Sunita Patel, an attorney who filed a lawsuit in New York against the federal government on behalf of a group worried about the program. Patel said that because illegal immigrants could be referred to ICE at the point of arrest, even before a conviction, the program can create an incentive for profiling and create a pipeline to deport more people. [Why do I suspect that Patel, though allegedly an attorney, doesn’t understand the “illegal” part of “illegal immigrants?”]

"It has the potential to revolutionize immigration enforcement," said Patel.[And that's a bad thing?]

Patel filed the lawsuit on behalf of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which is concerned the program could soon come to New York. The lawsuit seeks, among other things, statistical information about who has been deported as a result of the program and what they were arrested for. [What is wrong in this nation when someone is suing because the federal government is enforcing its immigration laws and deporting those who are in this country illegally? Anything wrong with this picture?]

Supporters of the program argue it is helping identify dangerous criminals that would otherwise go undetected. Since Oct. 27, 2008 through the end of May, almost 2.6 million people have been screened with Secure Communities. Of those, almost 35,000 were identified as illegal immigrants previously arrested or convicted for the most serious crimes, including murder and rape, ICE said Thursday. More than 205,000 who were identified as illegal immigrants had arrest records for less serious crimes.

In Ohio, Butler County Sheriff Rick Jones praised the program, which was implemented in his jurisdiction earlier this month.

"It's really a heaven-sent for us," Jones said. He said the program helps solve the problem police often have of not knowing whether someone they arrested has a criminal history and is in the country illegally.

"I don't want them in my community," Jones said. "I've got enough homegrown criminals here."

Carl Rusnok, an ICE spokesman, said Secure Communities is a way for law enforcement to identify illegal immigrants after their arrest at no additional cost to local jurisdictions. Jones agreed.

"We arrest these people anyway," he said. "All it does is help us deport people who shouldn't be here."

Rusnok said ICE created the program after Congress directed the agency to improve the way it identifies and deports illegal immigrants with criminal backgrounds. ICE has gotten $550 million for the program since 2008, Rusnok said.

Rusnok said the only place he knows of that has requested not to be a part of Secure Communities is San Francisco, which began the program June 8. Eileen Hirst, the chief of staff for San Francisco Sheriff Michael Hennessey, said it happened "without our input or approval."

Hirst said the sheriff thought Secure Communities cast too wide a net and worried that it would sweep up U.S. citizens and minor offenders, such as people who commit traffic infractions but miss their court hearings. Hirst also said the program goes against San Francisco's sanctuary city policy that calls for authorities to only report foreign-born suspects booked for felonies. [What a surprise, a federal program that goes against a San Francisco city policy that is a violation of another federal law – and still no lawsuit by Eric Holder?]

"Now, we're reporting every single individual who comes into our custody and gets fingerprinted," Hirst said.[And that’s a bad thing?]

California Attorney General Jerry Brown denied Hennessey's request to opt out. Brown said that prior to Secure Communities, illegal immigrants with criminal histories were often released before their status was discovered. [Finally, some common-sense from Governor Moon-Beam!]

This month, Washington, D.C., police decided not to pursue the program because the City Council introduced a bill that would prohibit authorities from sharing arrest data with ICE out of concern for immigrants' civil rights. Matthew Bromeland, special assistant to the police chief, said police wanted the program and were talking with ICE about how address concerns from immigrant advocates before the bill forced them to halt negotiations.

Let’s see if we have this straight - Arizona, which wants only to assist in the enforcement of federal immigration law, gets sued, but San Francisco and D.C., which have bills that would prohibit their officers from complying with federal law, don’t?

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  • Angelique ~ Pfffft! ;)~ 2010/08/02 09:57:18
    Angelique ~ Pfffft!  ;)~
    Welcome to Obama's World......
  • Beccy 2010/07/31 23:33:16
    Why would we be worrying about an invaders rights? They do not have the right to be here.
  • Ken "Do... Beccy 2010/07/31 23:58:11
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    Great post, it is an invasion!The sooner our government realizes this is an invasion, from protests in the streets of Mexico City, to the president of Mexico, to Mexican newspapers, to Illegal Immigration "Activists" marching in this country carrying Mexican flags, demanding their "rights" and claiming they own the southwestern United States, and reacts accordingly, the better off this nation will be.
  • Beccy Ken "Do... 2010/08/01 04:06:17
    I hate it when I see a Mexican flag flying if they like Mexico so much they can go back.
  • Ken "Do... Beccy 2010/08/01 04:16:59
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    A good question is, Beccy, why so many of them say they want the Southwestern states given back to Mexico, when the Mexican government is so corrupt they can properly govern what they have? Sheer stupidity!
  • Beccy Ken "Do... 2010/08/01 18:01:22
    YEap, now that we build the land up they want to steal it.
  • Ken "Do... Beccy 2010/08/01 18:59:17
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    The fact is Beccy, as a result to the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which ended the Mexican-American war in 1848, Mexico was paid the equivalent of $380 million in today's US$, and the US agreed to take ovr the equivalent of $81.4 million today in debts Mexico owed to American citizens.

    The treaty also ensured safety of existing property rights of Mexican citizens in the transferred territories. So in exchange for changing the boundaries, Mexican citizens became U.S. citizens and their title to property was assured - Spanish land grants are honored to this date by the Southwestern United States.
  • Beccy Ken "Do... 2010/08/03 00:11:03
    So what you are saying is that the invaders have the right to invade?
  • Ken "Do... Beccy 2010/08/03 00:31:03 (edited)
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    No, I am saying the government of Mexico gave up that right in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, and not a single Mexican citizen was deprived of his/her property as a result -- what they got in the bargain was the good government of the U.S. (until recently!) in exchange for the corrupt Mexican government.
  • Beccy Ken "Do... 2010/08/04 03:22:38
    Now they want to bring us the corrupt government. It's scary isn't it. And there is a Latin cable network railing them up
  • Ken "Do... Beccy 2010/08/04 03:38:47
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    There are dozens of Hispanic radio and TV stations throughout the country and the most radical advocates of "reconquista" have full access to most of them.
  • Beccy Ken "Do... 2010/08/05 01:41:27
    I have clients who are hispanic and when they bring up the subject I lay the exploitation on them.
  • Striker Beccy 2010/08/02 01:10:28
    Because Obama and Co. are making it impossible to get rid of them.
  • Beccy Striker 2010/08/03 00:11:33
    Could it be because he is here illegally himself?
  • Striker Beccy 2010/08/03 01:15:39
    Could be - I am almost certain of that.
  • Beccy Striker 2010/08/04 03:22:58
    me too
  • Barbara Hasler 2010/07/29 02:36:48
    Barbara Hasler
    Why is it required that fingerprinted American citizens befput on record but the warm fuzzies don't want the illegals who may have commited henious crimes to be readily identifiable. Why are, those who are so protective of the illegal criminals, not charged with aiding and abetting a crime by not turning the creeps over to ICE. Maybe a few laws suits by those who were victims because of the law would wake up the mindless morons.
  • Ken "Do... Barbara... 2010/07/29 02:47:48
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    Great questions! It seems that the "warm fuzzies" want illegals to have more civil rights than U.S. citizens and others in this country legally! Why aren't the mayor and city council of San Francisco (and other "sanctuary cities") thrown into federal prison for aiding and abetting criminal illegals under their jurisdiction by not allowing them to be reported to I.C.E, for essentially mandating the disobedience of federal law??
  • Barbara... Ken "Do... 2010/07/29 03:02:50
    Barbara Hasler
    Ken, Our nation is getting more pathetic by the day. We have a big job ahead of us to right the wrongs. On the illegal issue, especially in Arizona where they have captured U.S. Territory, couldn't we prove that they declared war on us? Then we could capture them as prisoners of war and ship the whole sorid lot to Gitmo and let them sit there until we have pacified our country and driven the invaders out. Pardon my fanatsy but I am disgusted that we can sit here and come up with solutions wereby those we hire to do it are too incompetent or even aiders and abetters.
  • Ken "Do... Barbara... 2010/07/29 03:56:58
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    We do, and a Republican victory in November is only the beginning - we need to get the attention of the old line, "ruling class" Republicans just as much as the Democrats' and demand that they begin adhering to our Constitution, that they rein-in federal government programs where the federal government has no authority to be intruding, and that they give back to the states the powers that were originally intended for the states. As the Tenth Amendment states:

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    There is a short list of very specific powers delegated to the United States, our federal government, in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, and they should be limited to those powers, unless and until they can lawfully amend to Constitution to state otherwise.
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