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Michelle Bachmann admits mistake …

“The Tea Party says it stands for limited government, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and I’m afraid I lost sight of that,” Rep. Bachmann declared shortly after taking the microphone from Tea Party Patriots head Jenny Beth Martin at an event outside the U.S. Capitol on March 31. “When I voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act, I voted to let the government spy on innocent people without a warrant — and keep it a secret. That’s not constitutional. That’s not in the spirit of the Bill of Rights. That’s not limited government. I’m sorry. Let me say that again: I’m sorry.”

http://irregulartimes.com/ind...

I will stand and say I think Michelle Bachmann would make a great President of the United States. After listening to the debates the other night I thought both she and Ron Paul shined as Constitututional Conservatives something this country hasn't seen in a very long time.
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  • STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL 2011/07/09 06:12:38
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +1
    AZ - Thank you so much for posting this. I'm Michele's biggest fan, and was heartbroken when I found out that she voted to renew the expiring provisions of the Patriot Act. I'm so glad that she now realizes it was a mistake, and had the honesty to admit it. I supported her heavily in her 2010 run, and am supporting her now for president. She's a great patrot, and I really hope she wins in 2012.
  • Arizona... STU~PWC... 2011/07/09 16:21:26
    Arizona1950
    +1
    I like Bachmann as well Stu, but regrettably she never apologized. I thought the article legitimate at the time I posted but have found it is false. Not sure a lie from the right to boost her numbers or a joke from the left but I verified that it is in fact not true. Sorry. She is of the Tea Party Express (GOP) and not what I call a true Tea Party Patriot.

    I am still a firm supporter of Ron Paul. His record, consistency in voting, and direction is what I think is needed in a leader.
  • STU~PWC... Arizona... 2011/07/09 23:23:48
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    Hi AZ,

    I heard about the story being false after your initial post. Hopefully, Bachmann will later really apologize. It would be the right thing to do (pun intended).

    I think Ron Paul has a real shot. To win the GOP primary, you need (1) real conservative credentials and very powerful grassroots money raising ability, or (2) support of big special interests and the RNC.

    I think Bachmann, Paul, and Romney are the only ones that meet one of the criteria.

    The big question is who is most likely to be able to beat Obama in the general election. Paul would be the weakest, because he will terrify centrists. Romney would be the strongest, because he is a flip-flopper who will say/do anything to get elected; the problem here is that he will probably make a lousy president as a result. Sooooooooooo, I'm still rooting for Bachmann in the primary and general election. The center will ultimately decide who gets elected, because they have the plurality of the votes. If Bachmann wins the primary, the center will be faced with choosing the lesser of two evils: a TPM candidate that frightens them, or an incumbant they are angry at over the jobs mess.

    I admit a year or more is a lifetime in politics, but the latest Zogby poll has Michele doing really well. She scored 30 points on the GOP primary poll, double the second place candidate (Cain). The poll also indicated an election race between Bachmann and Obama would be a dead 50/50 heat.

    I admit I'm biased, but I think Bachmann will be our next president. Since receiving my Team Bachmann shirt and wearing it while doing my routine chores, I bet I've already converted tens of thousands of Vermonters to the cause. I'm about to start a national tour to just walk around towns all over the country and turn moderates and liberals into TPM supporters by seeing my shirt. :)

    Stu
  • TombstoneJim 2011/06/23 20:37:09
    TombstoneJim
    +2
    Well, well BRAVO Michelle - now figure it out BEFORE you vote next time.....but, kudos for "manning up" and admitting a mistake, far more than we've heard from other fellows in the race - especailly the current occupant of the Whitehouse.
  • Arizona... Tombsto... 2011/06/23 21:44:43
    Arizona1950
    I agree but regrettably I'm told the article is false.
  • Tombsto... Arizona... 2011/06/30 15:55:13
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    yep, I heard that about 30 seconds after I posted.....darn shame folks are scamming such things - this is too important a time in the nation’s history to be playing silly games with people's character and actions.....tisk, tisk shame on the hoaxer
  • Arizona... Tombsto... 2011/06/30 16:08:05
    Arizona1950
    I agree and thank you for understanding. Unless I know the person I find few who are so kind.
  • Louisa - Enemy of the State 2011/06/16 20:46:43
    Louisa - Enemy of the State
    +1
    Very early in my career I made a huge mistake and I thought about it for a short time and realized that I had to go to my employer and admit to it. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do and it was only between me and the owner!!

    I admire any politician who admits to the nation that they've a mistake BEFORE the sh*t hits the fan. We are all human and all subject to error.
  • Arizona... Louisa ... 2011/06/16 21:43:37 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    +2
    Regrettably the actual article has proven to be false an April Fool's joke it seems. But I do have some clarity on her views.

    Voting to temporarily extend three provisions of the Patriot Act: “People do recognize that in the Constitution there is a tension and a balance. On one hand, the first duty of government is to secure the safety of the American people. On the other hand, the Bill of Rights secures to individuals in our system, for instance, the First Amendment right to free speech and the Fourth Amendment right to be protected against unreasonable search and seizure. So I share the very real concern people have in allowing government to be too big, and too intrusive in our personal, private life. And if I believed the provisions that we were looking were doing that, I wouldn’t support them.

    “…We have a very different war, we have very different technology, and we have a very different enemies. We need to take those considerations in mind when we make those decisions.”

    “…I serve on the Select Committee on Intelligence. We handle the most classified information, the most top secret information in the nation. And it would be unwise for us to not have protections and tools to keep our people safe. We need to fully vet these provisions to ensure that our people are fully secure in their rights, and privileges and immunities as American citizens, and we must do that while at the same time securing the safety of our nation.”

    http://crazyworld.blogs.goups...
  • Slade 2011/06/16 18:49:59
    Slade
    OUCH I told you you can't trust a lawyer that voted in favor of the Patriot Act. Even the apology was a spoof posted as an April Fools joke.
  • safari 2011/06/16 17:28:19
    safari
    +3
    I have to add this here - this article was an april fools joke - she never apologized http://irregulartimes.com/ind...
  • Arizona... safari 2011/06/16 18:21:29
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Now mine and your links don't want to work ... so I found this instead.

    Here’s what the congresswoman had to say on…

    Voting to temporarily extend three provisions of the Patriot Act: “People do recognize that in the Constitution there is a tension and a balance. On one hand, the first duty of government is to secure the safety of the American people. On the other hand, the Bill of Rights secures to individuals in our system, for instance, the First Amendment right to free speech and the Fourth Amendment right to be protected against unreasonable search and seizure. So I share the very real concern people have in allowing government to be too big, and too intrusive in our personal, private life. And if I believed the provisions that we were looking were doing that, I wouldn’t support them.

    “…We have a very different war, we have very different technology, and we have a very different enemies. We need to take those considerations in mind when we make those decisions.”

    “…I serve on the Select Committee on Intelligence. We handle the most classified information, the most top secret information in the nation. And it would be unwise for us to not have protections and tools to keep our people safe. We need to fully vet these provisions to ensure that our people are fully secure in their rights, and privileges and immunities as American citizens, and we must do that while at the same time securing the safety of our nation.”

    http://crazyworld.blogs.goups...

    Here decision was based on her perseptions and her knowledge. Thus said, this does not sway my feelings at all in regard to her becoming President. :-)
  • safari Arizona... 2011/06/16 18:25:22
    safari
    +3
    soda must be rejecting these links - it can be found by googling the title Sodaheaders Fall for Michele Bachmann April Fools — in June. What comes next?
  • safari Arizona... 2011/06/16 18:26:06
    safari
    +2
    I have said that due to things told to me by people I trust - while I hate the Pat act, I won't hold this one thing against her if that is all it comes down to.
  • Arizona... safari 2011/06/16 18:50:31
    Arizona1950
    +1
    It's early and we need to keep viligant. I like her but I still lean more towards Ron Paul ... he is consistently a true Constitutional Conservative.
  • safari 2011/06/16 16:34:35 (edited)
    safari
    +2
    UGH SEE MY POST ABOVE What a good find Arizona - thank you! But - I have to say - when she voted for it, she put out a video saying how important it was and how safe it was going to keep us. It's too late now - she can't take that vote back. I wonder if she is just reacting to intel she is getting about people holding this issue up to the light and especially TEA party members. But I do think it is good that she apologized. I just don't know if that is enough because if it had been me, I wouldn't have had to REMEMBER the constitution in order not to place a vote - I would have never let it happen. Don't get me wrong Bachmann is on my potential candidate list but this is just how I see it.
  • Arizona... safari 2011/06/16 18:21:50
  • safari Arizona... 2011/06/16 18:26:30
    safari
    +1
    thanks
  • jr 2011/06/16 02:19:51
    jr
    +3
    I agree...she is fast gaining my support. I am considering contributing to her campaign
  • Arizona... jr 2011/06/16 03:49:25
    Arizona1950
    +2
    That's a great idea. If you can't in money perhaps helping out at her campaign office. I am sure your support will be much appreciated.
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