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Pres. Obama on Gay Marriage: "I Struggle With This"

Mopeder 2012/05/08 14:57:37
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From a year end press conference, a reporter asked President Obama "Is it intellectually consistent to say that gay and lesbians should be able to fight and die for this country but they should not be able to marry the people they love?." December 22, 2009.

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  • Ken 2012/05/08 16:21:34
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Ken
    +5
    Like President Obama, I struggled with this until 2004. Here is the story of my struggle.

    In 2003, my wife died after fighting cancer for years. As her condition got worse, it became increasingly difficult for her to make medical decisions and she came to rely on my judgement...although we discussed decision criteria repeatedly when she felt up to it...just so I could be sure I was making the right decisions for her. The doctors and nurses with whom we worked respected our relationship (after testing it I should add) and shared the information needed to make these decisions.

    Sometime after Rose' death but while the pain was still very fresh; I met a gay man whose exclusive partner of more than 20 years was fighting a terminal disease. Because this man worked for a friend, I saw him with some regularity as the disease progressed. Because his relationship with his partner was not recognized by law, he got none of the respect; e.g., he was unable to stay overnight in his partner's hospital room, he was unable to obtain medical information and records to help his partner make medical decisions, etc. It was obvious he was suffering like I had suffered during Rose' illness but more so because he was separated from his partner by the system.

    Sometime during this period, I...
    Like President Obama, I struggled with this until 2004. Here is the story of my struggle.

    In 2003, my wife died after fighting cancer for years. As her condition got worse, it became increasingly difficult for her to make medical decisions and she came to rely on my judgement...although we discussed decision criteria repeatedly when she felt up to it...just so I could be sure I was making the right decisions for her. The doctors and nurses with whom we worked respected our relationship (after testing it I should add) and shared the information needed to make these decisions.

    Sometime after Rose' death but while the pain was still very fresh; I met a gay man whose exclusive partner of more than 20 years was fighting a terminal disease. Because this man worked for a friend, I saw him with some regularity as the disease progressed. Because his relationship with his partner was not recognized by law, he got none of the respect; e.g., he was unable to stay overnight in his partner's hospital room, he was unable to obtain medical information and records to help his partner make medical decisions, etc. It was obvious he was suffering like I had suffered during Rose' illness but more so because he was separated from his partner by the system.

    Sometime during this period, I start to get robo calls on the issue of gay marriage...calls clearly intended to raise campaign contributions by riling the conservative voting base of which I was part. Now I do not appreciate solicitation phone calls, donate money over the phone, and cease to donate to any charity which uses my phone number to solicit funds, as well as, being on every "do not call" registry. IMO, computers talk to computers and people talk to people....it is rude and disrespectful for a computer to talk to a person. So when I get the first call about gay marriage, I ask to be removed from the calling list....when I get the 4th call, I know position...I am against everything the sponsors of those calls were for....and they were against gay marriage so I became a supporter of gay marriage. The other experience helped me rationalize it with my religious beliefs.
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  • ehrhornp 2012/05/10 06:18:21
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    ehrhornp
    Its frankly none of my business. There is no logical reason to prevent it so unless you believe in big government for big government's sake, it should be allowed. No brainer.
  • Roger47 2012/05/08 20:46:24
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Roger47
    The struggle for him is whether to do what is right even if it might cost him the election. There are voters out there who could never vote for someone if the candidate were in favor of gay marriage. That is the sad reality he must deal with.
  • scbluesman13 2012/05/08 19:00:02
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    scbluesman13
    Once you've arrived at the conviction that no person of this country should be treated like a second class, regardless of sexual preference, gender, color, age, etc.., then what inner struggle is there?
  • Richy scblues... 2012/05/13 16:33:34
    Richy
    Really how about those people who love to have sex with children, but really have not hurt anyone maybe the Good old USA should just say Well if it makes you feel good we will pass a law to make it ok, because its what's in the minds of groups of people that set standards not Moral conviction for an entire nation.
  • Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/05/08 18:56:45
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    I believe Obama is having the same issues with same-sex marriage the majority of Americans are having. They do not think it is right to deny equal rights to anyone, however: Some also have religious beliefs that are the opposite. Some have moral questions they are wrestling with. Many have strong feelings about "Traditional Marriage". Some have a problem with calling it marriage. Civil unions? My cousin is gay and she is a good person...What about that couple down the street they're nice guys but...Is this the same as other civil rights...and on and on and on. Just read through this poll.
    He is a politician so votes certainly play a part in any decision he makes but I think there is more to it than that.
  • William Day 2012/05/08 18:48:21
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    William Day
    all the way
  • findthelight2000 2012/05/08 17:33:46
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    findthelight2000
    +2
    Let's not forget that President Obama has still done more for the LGBTQ community than any other previous President. Let's keep our eye on the ball folks, but be patient and understanding, Rome wasn't built in a day!
  • J.W. Howler 2012/05/08 17:16:10
    No I am against gay marriage.
    J.W. Howler
    And I am against the government being involved in marriage of any kind.
  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2012/05/08 17:15:01
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +1
    In his heart, he knows gay marriage is the right thing - that's how I read it.

    He's not ready to commit himself, but with another term safely under his belt, I wouldn't be surprised at a reversal of his former opinion.
  • sjalan 2012/05/08 16:56:21
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    sjalan
    +1
    He is probably being more honest about this than people give him credit for. Sure as a US Senator he supported same sex marriage. But that was some 10 years ago. People change. He has been heavily influenced by the church he went to, which does not support same sex marriage. Frankly, I think he is having a conscience problem with his religious teachings and the concept of separation of church and state as a constitutional expert when it comes to Civil Law codes.

    This is going to be a difficult decision not to be made lightly
  • Mike 2012/05/08 16:45:30 (edited)
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Mike
    +1
    I support a bonding of two people in love. The problem is the term to define that bonding. The word marriage has always been accepted, as a bonding between man and woman, two of the opposite sex..Then, for the longest time hidden, a gay community let it be known they existed and wanted the same rights to bond, as well as, the rights that came from that bonding. All of which, I find nothing wrong. But, I do believe the term "marriage" needs to be left to the bonding of man and woman and a new term is needed for the bonding of the same sexes, if only to differentiate public and legal views of what sexes have decided to bond. My reasoning led me to the dictionaries definition of "marriage" to support my thoughts. The word "marriage" then led me to word "spouse" inturn, led me to " man" and "wife" and "wife" to woman. A definite difference between sexes, under the term "marriage". Argument might be had, if the term "marriage" and it's definition hadn't been defined long before the rights of gay movement ever took place. The use of a different term, but still representing the basic same thing would eliminate many of the problems we are having with dealing with the matter and still would meet the goals of the gay community. It's just finding the proper term that equates the definition.
  • Ken 2012/05/08 16:21:34
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Ken
    +5
    Like President Obama, I struggled with this until 2004. Here is the story of my struggle.

    In 2003, my wife died after fighting cancer for years. As her condition got worse, it became increasingly difficult for her to make medical decisions and she came to rely on my judgement...although we discussed decision criteria repeatedly when she felt up to it...just so I could be sure I was making the right decisions for her. The doctors and nurses with whom we worked respected our relationship (after testing it I should add) and shared the information needed to make these decisions.

    Sometime after Rose' death but while the pain was still very fresh; I met a gay man whose exclusive partner of more than 20 years was fighting a terminal disease. Because this man worked for a friend, I saw him with some regularity as the disease progressed. Because his relationship with his partner was not recognized by law, he got none of the respect; e.g., he was unable to stay overnight in his partner's hospital room, he was unable to obtain medical information and records to help his partner make medical decisions, etc. It was obvious he was suffering like I had suffered during Rose' illness but more so because he was separated from his partner by the system.

    Sometime during this period, I...
    Like President Obama, I struggled with this until 2004. Here is the story of my struggle.

    In 2003, my wife died after fighting cancer for years. As her condition got worse, it became increasingly difficult for her to make medical decisions and she came to rely on my judgement...although we discussed decision criteria repeatedly when she felt up to it...just so I could be sure I was making the right decisions for her. The doctors and nurses with whom we worked respected our relationship (after testing it I should add) and shared the information needed to make these decisions.

    Sometime after Rose' death but while the pain was still very fresh; I met a gay man whose exclusive partner of more than 20 years was fighting a terminal disease. Because this man worked for a friend, I saw him with some regularity as the disease progressed. Because his relationship with his partner was not recognized by law, he got none of the respect; e.g., he was unable to stay overnight in his partner's hospital room, he was unable to obtain medical information and records to help his partner make medical decisions, etc. It was obvious he was suffering like I had suffered during Rose' illness but more so because he was separated from his partner by the system.

    Sometime during this period, I start to get robo calls on the issue of gay marriage...calls clearly intended to raise campaign contributions by riling the conservative voting base of which I was part. Now I do not appreciate solicitation phone calls, donate money over the phone, and cease to donate to any charity which uses my phone number to solicit funds, as well as, being on every "do not call" registry. IMO, computers talk to computers and people talk to people....it is rude and disrespectful for a computer to talk to a person. So when I get the first call about gay marriage, I ask to be removed from the calling list....when I get the 4th call, I know position...I am against everything the sponsors of those calls were for....and they were against gay marriage so I became a supporter of gay marriage. The other experience helped me rationalize it with my religious beliefs.
    (more)
  • Ev Rom Ken 2012/05/08 22:37:41
    Ev Rom
    I was moved by your post. I am sorry for you loss. I am great full for your ability to observe a situation on personal level and make an honest decision based on how you felt.

    I am sad to hear you'r wife passed away and I will have you and your wife Rose in my prayers.

    I am gay and have a partner. I hope that we never go through any of this but if it happens I would like for us to be there to help each other. Without restrictions or conditions.

    I don't hope to affect a heterosexuals marriage by having the right to wed my partner, I want the right to be legally viewed and respected as partners in our decision making and know that our marriage is no different than that of a man and a woman. I know not all people can do what you did and I thank you for not being mean and having a good heart.

    I wish you well and hope that God guides you and that Rose's memory of all that was love and good is with you.
  • Billyk75 2012/05/08 16:20:16
    No I am against gay marriage.
    Billyk75
    I think Obama is too scared to tell the public what he thinks about gay marriage.
  • olylift 2012/05/08 16:17:29
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    olylift
    So much for change.
  • yg 2012/05/08 15:49:38
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    yg
    +1
    Gay people are all human and like everyone else, they do things to help this country. People say that marriage is one of the best things that can happen to you and that it makes you happy. Why should someone be deprived of happiness just because of they're gay? Your sexual orientation is only part of who you are. It shouldn't count for everything.
  • Kim 2012/05/08 15:47:10
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Kim
    +1
    gays marrying will not affect me in any way I can see..They deserve love and security...just like I have with my husband..
    Now waht Obama thinks or doesn't think is not the point...the point is that he is trying to have it both ways and still voting "present" instead of making a commitment one way or the other...
  • Sofahead 2012/05/08 15:30:59
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Sofahead
    +1
    He's debating/fearing how many votes he will lose if he publicly says yes.
  • lstl5 2012/05/08 15:26:28
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    lstl5
    +1
    I dont know why he is struggling with it? He repealed dont ask, dont tell which tells you he believes in gays having their rights. He needs to just say it so he can get back to the economy and away from social issues.
  • Kim lstl5 2012/05/08 15:48:32
    Kim
    he is too afraid of not living in the WH another 4 years...and he is afraid of Michelle because she will lose all her expensive tax payer paid for vacations..
  • lstl5 Kim 2012/05/08 15:58:37
    lstl5
    He is afraid he will lose the votes from citizens against gay rights, but your second remark is not true.
  • jacktown kid 2012/05/08 15:13:45
    No I am against gay marriage.
    jacktown kid
    marriage with the opposite works for me
  • Roger47 jacktow... 2012/05/08 20:48:00
    Roger47
    +1
    But there are some for whom that could never work
  • jacktow... Roger47 2012/05/09 15:12:32
    jacktown kid
    Thats true too
  • Jimbo 2012/05/08 15:09:12
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Jimbo
    +1
    So does the president, but he has NC to consider in the election. I expect full support of gay unions after the election.
  • Wag 2012/05/08 15:00:52
    Yes I support gay marriage.
    Wag
    +3
    Really...Why does it matter so much to people what other people do?
  • Ev Rom Wag 2012/05/08 22:39:37
    Ev Rom
    +1
    because for some its a great tool used to divide.

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