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Keeping It Real 2012/06/24 18:07:54
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  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/06/25 04:01:41 (edited)
    I give no thumbs up for this ad, because I didn't like it, even if the substa...
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +43
    BS, same crap, different day! Here's the real story, the truth, something Obama can't tell you!

    OBAMA MYTH: Shutting down a successful paper plant in Marion, IN.

    REALITY: The paper plant in Marion, IN was losing money when Ampad bought it to try to turn it around.

    In 1992, Bain Capital invested in American Paper & Pad, or Ampad. Two years later – while Governor Romney was on a leave of absence to run for U.S. Senate against the late Ted Kennedy – Ampad purchased the assets of an unprofitable plant in Marion, Indiana from Smith Corona.

    This was not a healthy plant: In the year preceding Ampad’s purchase, the Marion plant lost more than $1.6 million dollars.

    Though the Marion plant would later close, Ampad added nearly 2,500 jobs at other plants between Bain Capital’s initial investment and the sale of its majority interest. During this same period, revenues grew dramatically from $8.8 million to more than $580 million.

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  • oldcavpilot 2012/06/25 04:24:43
    I give two thumbs up for this ad!
    oldcavpilot
    +6
    Amen, Hallelujah. 'Just doing his job'. Wake up America.
  • marylou5 oldcavp... 2012/06/25 18:03:18
    marylou5
    +3
    oops rave..yuk
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/06/25 04:01:41 (edited)
    I give no thumbs up for this ad, because I didn't like it, even if the substa...
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +43
    BS, same crap, different day! Here's the real story, the truth, something Obama can't tell you!

    OBAMA MYTH: Shutting down a successful paper plant in Marion, IN.

    REALITY: The paper plant in Marion, IN was losing money when Ampad bought it to try to turn it around.

    In 1992, Bain Capital invested in American Paper & Pad, or Ampad. Two years later – while Governor Romney was on a leave of absence to run for U.S. Senate against the late Ted Kennedy – Ampad purchased the assets of an unprofitable plant in Marion, Indiana from Smith Corona.

    This was not a healthy plant: In the year preceding Ampad’s purchase, the Marion plant lost more than $1.6 million dollars.

    Though the Marion plant would later close, Ampad added nearly 2,500 jobs at other plants between Bain Capital’s initial investment and the sale of its majority interest. During this same period, revenues grew dramatically from $8.8 million to more than $580 million.
  • Gracie ... Gracie ... 2012/06/25 04:23:27
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +15
    They can't handle the truth.
  • Gracie ... Gracie ... 2012/06/25 04:29:49
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +19
    There is always the "rest of the story" when they come out with anything. Just like all their healthcare histrionics, always false.
  • joseph ... Gracie ... 2012/06/25 10:27:25
    joseph digristina
    +8
    You're not a very imaginative liar Gracie. I'll bet the dog has more knowledge of politics than you do. All you do is repeat Republican talking points, the dog probably at least takes breaks in between barking. You just keep on slamming out on lie after the other without even inhaling for the next breath.
  • Gracie ... joseph ... 2012/06/25 22:30:15
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +10
    You've over extended my tolerance for idiots.
  • Debowman joseph ... 2012/06/25 22:51:27 (edited)
    Debowman
    +11
    yet fact check gives this ad 4 pinocchios The most they give is 5 and you still will argue it's all true, yet what is evident is your incapable of looking at the truth if it doesn't support what you already believe.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
  • joseph ... Debowman 2012/06/25 23:00:01
    joseph digristina
    +3
    Fact check and politifact are both jokes and hardly infallible. They slam everyone in order to keep their so called objectivity and in the process lose all their credibility. For every slam they they give Obama you can find 10 they give Romney. I don't base my political opinions on distorted info from wannabe websites, Only the politically inexperience like you resort to such low information alternatives.
  • Keeping... Debowman 2012/06/26 01:41:08
  • Doc Keeping... 2012/07/18 19:09:53
    Doc
    +2
    Didn't you mean to post this in a response to Joseph?
  • Keeping... Doc 2012/07/19 00:59:13
  • Doc Keeping... 2012/07/19 14:13:04
    Doc
    The only appropriate response is

    NANNY NANNY BOO BOO,
    lol!
  • Doc joseph ... 2012/07/18 19:09:18
    Doc
    +1
    Specifically, what is not true?

    I don't even care if you do your usual thing and call me names and mock me. But I seriously doubt that you can answer this question.

    And that means that I beat the liberal poli-sci Professor in a debate, AGAIN.
  • joseph ... Doc 2012/07/18 20:58:01
    joseph digristina
    +1
    How many times do I need to tell you I don't come here to debate Cons who are only here as an apologists for their party and their candidates. Whatever makes you think I would accept your undocumented rant and rave opinions as the ultimate authority on anything, when you are so notorious for presenting them as fact when, they are nothing more than you own biased conjectures. Who do you think you're kidding? You aren't fooling anyone but yourselves.
    I spend the majority of the time laughing at your underhanded presumptions, not worrying about rebutting your ignorant fantasies.
  • Doc joseph ... 2012/07/18 23:17:12
    Doc
    Bias has nothing to do with it. I asked you a VERY easy question, and you couldn't answer it.


    So far, I have the score

    Doc -3

    Joeseph - zero

    It's really sad that you can't back up your beliefs.

    But don't feel bad, I've embarassed better than you.
    :-)
  • joseph ... Doc 2012/07/19 00:36:46
    joseph digristina
    +1
    You really are deaf , dumb and blind. I specifically told you I don't debate Cons under any circumstances. Since you pay no attention to anything but your own ego, you will need to find another sucker for your endless weeks and weeks of baiting.
  • Doc joseph ... 2012/07/19 14:12:23
    Doc
    Who says I'm conservative?

    Doc - 4

    Joseph - still zero.
  • joseph ... Doc 2012/07/19 22:35:07
    joseph digristina
    +1
    No difference between Cons and Libertarians , they're both equally as greedy and selfish and worried about me, me, me.
  • Linda Gracie ... 2012/06/25 12:37:05
    Linda
    +6
    Your in the wrong decade lady.
  • Gracie ... Linda 2012/06/25 20:07:26 (edited)
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +8
    And your circling uranus.
    circling uranus
  • texasred Gracie ... 2012/06/26 16:07:38
    texasred
    +5
    Love it!!
  • Gracie ... texasred 2012/06/26 18:47:31
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +5
    Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of crybabies? I know ole Josephina isn't talking about me blocking or that I have my male cronies to defend me... That foul mouthed no brainer blocked me and he/she knows it. I hit a wittle nerve with him and he/she got all saddy pants. I would love for him to prove that I have ever expected anybody to come to my rescue. I am not afraid of lying libs with multiple personalities. They all have to bend the same way to smooch arse!

    PS.
    I am really amazed at how he/she has gotten away with the things, that he/she does. He/she doesn't have one good thought,so he/she tries to make up with it by using the toilet he/she calls a mouth!
  • texasred Gracie ... 2012/06/26 19:29:49
    texasred
    +4
    I'm thinking "it" is associated with SH. I don't know how "it" can get away with what "it" says without being associated with SH.
  • Gracie ... texasred 2012/06/26 20:11:38 (edited)
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +4
    The it' is way past foul. stinky garbage
  • beavith1 Gracie ... 2012/06/26 19:28:49
    beavith1
    +4
    LOL!!!
  • Red Branch Gracie ... 2012/07/05 02:23:02
    Red Branch
    +3
    With her tongue no less.
  • Doc Gracie ... 2012/07/19 14:14:15
    Doc
    +1
    That's funny!
  • Gracie ... Linda 2012/06/25 22:29:22
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +6
    That's the decade they're talking about, dearie!
  • joseph ... Linda 2012/06/25 23:25:02
    joseph digristina
    +2
    That one is in the wrong Century. She blocks people all the time and then expects her male cronies to defend her , and they do, Especially the one from Texas. I bet she wears hoop skirts still and says things like "Why thank y'all , kind sir!"
  • Skeptikat Gracie ... 2012/06/25 10:53:57
  • Gracie ... Skeptikat 2012/06/25 22:31:16
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +5
    Keep drinking that kool-aid!
  • Linda Skeptikat 2012/06/25 22:33:56
    Linda
    +4
    She doesn't see all that. She's in a world of her own. lol. Blinded by mutt.
  • Linda Gracie ... 2012/06/25 12:58:36
    Linda
    +6
    Your story and it's just that, is BS. You didn't finish the story, did you? GRACIE
  • Jackie ... Gracie ... 2012/06/25 14:01:15
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +8
    Good solid facts and I see they are wasted on some of these dunces. Good job Gracie
  • Gracie ... Jackie ... 2012/06/25 22:31:55
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +7
    They inject his BS right into their veins!
  • Jackie ... Gracie ... 2012/06/25 22:38:26
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +4
    One wonders what it is like to live so uninformed and out of touch with reality. Surely they did not all take drugs
  • marylou5 Gracie ... 2012/06/25 18:06:58 (edited)
    marylou5
    +7
    OBAMA & CO post fairy tales and try to sell them as truth......epic fail!
    It depends on voters' level of intelligence whether they buy their fairy tales or do like you did.
    Researched the truth..... and posted the truth!
    That's the way it is done!
  • Debowman marylou5 2012/06/25 22:54:00
    Debowman
    +2
    The Pinocchio Test


    The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of “corporate raider” to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.



    Four Pinocchios
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
  • aneed2know Gracie ... 2012/06/27 09:20:45 (edited)
    aneed2know
    +2
    The Ampad Strike in Marion

    14 January 2012
    SCM had a paper plant in Marion, Indiana, that has been there since I was a kid. When SCM went into decline in the 1990's, it sold the paper plant in 1994 to Ampad, which at the time was run by Bain Capital. Ampad dealt with the 200 workers of the plant in such a bad way — firing them, then rehiring them at lower pay and lesser benefits, then refusing to recognize their union — that the workers went on strike. The local citizens so backed the strikers that Ampad found only a dozen people who would work as scabs. And this was at a time of plant closings in the area. Even when I was out of work, I would sooner starve to death than break a picket line.

    In the end, after nearly a year, Ampad gave up and closed the plant, taking the equipment with it. The workers were without jobs, but in time they were avenged. Due mainly to Bain Capital milking the company for fees and making it buy out losing firms, Ampad declared bankrupcy in 1999 and was sold off as an empty shell. (The company has since been revived; but to this day I do not buy paper with the Ampad logo.)

    http://andywest.org/db3/2012/...

    http://mobile.businessweek.co...

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