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Porn industry mulls leaving LA if condoms required- has the Nanny state gone too far?

BrianD3 2012/01/18 15:35:25
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Some of the most prominent purveyors of porn say they'll start packing up their sex toys and abandoning the nation's porn capital if authorities carry through with a nascent effort to police adult film sets and order that every actor be outfitted with a condom.


That effort took a serious leap forward Tuesday when the Los Angeles city council voted 9-1 to grant final approval to an ordinance that would deny film permits to producers who do not comply with the condom requirement. The measure now goes to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for approval.


Before the measure can take effect, however, the council has called for the creation of a committee of police officials, the city attorney, state health officials and others to determine how it might be enforced.


"It's going to be interesting to see how in fact they do try to enforce it and who's going to fund it, and all of the time and effort they're going to spend," said Steven Hirsch, co-founder and co-chairman of Los Angeles-based Vivid, one of the largest makers of erotic movies.


"Ultimately I think what they will find is people will just stop shooting in the city of Los Angeles," added Hirsch. "That's a given."


His company, founded in 1984, would be among those that would consider leaving, he said.


Other industry officials condemned the measure as an unneeded exercise in political correctness that cannot be enforced in the city known in the industry as the porn capital of the country. Approximately 90 percent of U.S. porn films are made in Los Angeles, almost all of them in the city's San Fernando Valley, said Mark Kernes, senior editor of Adult Video News.


When films, Internet downloads, sex toys and admission to dance clubs are counted, Kernes said, it's an industry that produces about $8 billion a year in revenue. It has been battered in recent years, however, by the recession and the increased popularity of free Internet porn, and Kernes and others say requiring condoms would further erode business.


They say consumers, particularly those overseas, have made it clear they won't watch films when the actors use condoms, complaining that it is distracting and ruins the fantasy.


"The only thing that the city could potentially achieve is losing some film permit money and driving some productions away, but you can't actually compel an industry to create a product that the market doesn't want," said Christian Mann, general manager of Evil Angel, another of the industry's largest production companies.


Ged Kenslea, spokesman for the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, said the measure is needed because the industry has failed to properly police itself. For years, he said, filmmakers have ignored state health laws mandating the use of condoms when workers are exposed to blood-borne pathogens.


"Let's make one thing clear: Condom use on adult film sets is, and has been, the law in California under blood-borne pathogens regulations," he said. "It is just a law that has not been uniformly enforced or followed. This film permit ordinance that the city council approved today provides another enforcement mechanism to make sure that adult film producers are complying with existing California law."


The council's final vote to approve the law was taken without public discussion, on a day when most of the porn industry's major players were in Las Vegas preparing for Wednesday's opening of the Adult Entertainment Expo, their industry's largest trade event. They said they weren't surprised by the news.


The industry already does its own policing, filmmakers say, requiring actors be tested for sexually transmitted diseases a minimum of every 30 days when they are working. They say no cases of HIV have been directly linked to porn films since 2004, adding they fear if the industry scatters to areas outside of Los Angeles, testing could fall by the wayside, exposing performers to more risk.


"If someone is going to catch an STD, it's usually out of the business because we are tested so often," said veteran porn actress and producer Tabitha Stevens.


In her 17 years in the business, Stevens said, she has worked both with and without condoms. Although she prefers to use condoms, acknowledging they do increase safety, she said the choice should be left up to the performers and not mandated by a government agency.


"If you want to wear them, wear them. If you don't, don't. That's up to the talent to decide. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide," she said.

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  • ..tisha... 2012/01/18 17:25:54
    Yes
    ..tisha...
    +6
    Most professional 'Adult Film Companies' (I.E not amateur films) do demand mandatory STD screening on their talent, the use or disuse of one is up to the actors but they've been reassured that their 'partners' are clean. So as long as professional companies keep to this rule, I see no reason for the government to get involved. As 'distasteful' as it is to most people, it is a genuine business.

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  • tellmewhy 2012/01/26 03:44:16
    no
    tellmewhy
  • Ejayt7 2012/01/24 14:49:19 (edited)
    Undecided
    Ejayt7
    Pornography should never have been allowed in this country in the first place. Pornography means writing of a harlot. It's all about whoredom and sexual immorality.
  • Curmudgeon Ejayt7 2012/01/26 03:06:48
    Curmudgeon
    +1
    So you support a wholesale prohibition of porn? Banning something only makes it more appealing to people, look at prohibition in the 1930's on booze. As history shows us, not many people stopped drinking and the mafia made allot of money selling people a thrill for a price.

    The same would happen to porn if people adopt a wholesale prohibition approach.
  • LarryFine 2012/01/24 13:43:43
    Undecided
    LarryFine
    They are going to move ALL of Hollywood?
  • Erok 2012/01/21 04:03:05
    Undecided
    Erok
    +1
    Hasn't porn kind of run its course I mean they have shot just about every possible type of film at this point haven't they?
  • BrianD3 Erok 2012/01/24 12:29:39
    BrianD3
    +1
    they probably have but there is always some new fesh face that the customers want to see butt naked....
  • True~Male BrianD3 2012/01/28 03:29:48
    True~Male
    I agree, porn never goes out of fashion
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/01/20 20:43:34 (edited)
    Yes, this is crazy!
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    In California if it is your business it the States business. If you can't take care of state business, take care of the peoples.
  • BrianD3 ☆stillt... 2012/01/24 12:30:00
    BrianD3
    +2
    well said
  • Sam 2012/01/19 20:06:07
    Undecided
    Sam
    +2
    A good porn movie has to have the money shot. It's just got to.
  • C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT 2012/01/19 11:21:56
  • BrianD3 C-ZAR™,... 2012/01/24 12:32:20
    BrianD3
    +1
    yes, but 1) they are consenting adults and 2) none knowingly or maliciously spread disease. I am interested in comparing infection rates of the porn industry in LA to say, the homo population in Frisco.....maybe the state should require that ALL homos use condums 100% of the time or be fined/jailed?
  • C-ZAR™,... BrianD3 2012/01/24 13:07:07 (edited)
    C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT
    +1
    Yes, they ARE consenting adults, but even though they are in sex, this falls under work related dangers, that's like being asked to work around ebola without a environmental suit, WHY put them at even GREATER risk?
    What GAYS do at home is their business, if their rates are comparable in REAL life, then it should not be law for them to use a condom, just be more careful for their own sake, now...if they are in gay porn, again, the people they "work with" are coworkers, so any dangerous sex that they have should be considered a work hazard and they should be required to AVOID unnecessary work hazards, I.E. wear a condom
  • True~Male BrianD3 2012/01/28 03:34:36
    True~Male
    No, I'm gay and I don't like condoms either -I'm in a monogamous relationship --Hell me and my man enjoy watching porn together --most gay porn actors do wear condoms now. The straight porn actor never wear condoms at least the ones I've viewed.
  • 2sly 2012/01/19 11:05:14
    Yes, this is crazy!
    2sly
    +2
    Next up. You must were a condom while haveing sex at home. California is a screwy ass State. They are broke and now they are going to Police the Porn industry for use of condoms. Why don't they put that effort into paying down thier debt and becoming solvent.
  • True~Male 2sly 2012/01/24 05:48:50
    True~Male
    +1
    Most people like the fantasy aspect of seeing two adults having sex without using condoms -- That's what makes it hot and exciting to watch --Hell I even like to watch the actual internal cum shots !!
  • BrianD3 True~Male 2012/01/24 12:32:38
    BrianD3
    +1
    so true
  • BrianD3 2sly 2012/01/24 12:33:02
    BrianD3
    +1
    next, they will require condoms when spanking the monkey
  • Undecided
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    +4
    Porn is about fantasy, but at the same time, if you look at gay porn they almost always use condoms. Back in the day there was a boycott of gay porn to make them use condoms. While I don't think it should be required, if the star wants to use one it should be an option.
  • BrianD3 Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/01/24 12:33:26
    BrianD3
    +2
    an option, yes
  • BAMACRUSADER 2012/01/19 00:57:41
    Yes, this is crazy!
    BAMACRUSADER
    +2
    Won't be long, and it will be illegal to have sex with your wife without wearing one.
  • BrianD3 BAMACRU... 2012/01/24 12:33:41
    BrianD3
    +2
    I am sure that is on the ballot
  • True~Male BrianD3 2012/01/28 03:08:00
    True~Male
    If it ain't broke don't fix it. Allow the porn actors the choice to wear one or not wear one.
  • DuncanONeil 2012/01/18 23:04:32
    Yes
    DuncanONeil
    Long time ago!
  • Stan Kapusta 2012/01/18 22:39:12
    Yes, this is crazy!
    Stan Kapusta
    +3
    Is this turning into Communist Russia. Telling us how to ...well. No more freedom people. They pick your lightbulbs,make you wear a helmet, take away your cigarettes with taxes, tell you who you can vote for, SOPA [the internet for sale.] Now how to protect porno pee pees. I think our elected officials need to focus on more important rising issues.
  • BrianD3 Stan Ka... 2012/01/24 12:34:07
    BrianD3
    +1
    I agree
  • True~Male Stan Ka... 2012/01/28 03:12:46
  • mike 2012/01/18 21:49:30
    Yes
    mike
    +2
    Don't they always go to far. I am surprised though, who woulda expected somthing like this out of LA.
  • Brian ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/01/18 21:15:45
    Yes, this is crazy!
    Brian ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +3
    Attempting to regulate ANY sexual contact between consenting adults is utter insanity.
  • True~Male Brian ☮... 2012/01/28 03:15:41
  • Brian ☮... True~Male 2012/01/28 06:30:44
    Brian ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    NOOOOOOOOOO, you've permanently scarred me with this image. I'll never have need of a condom again.
  • True~Male Brian ☮... 2012/01/28 07:53:55
    True~Male
    LOL
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/01/18 21:08:53
    Undecided
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    There is nothing professional about porn. Just more out of control liberalism eating away at itself.
  • flrdsgns Torchma... 2012/01/19 05:08:59
    flrdsgns
    +2
    so are you saying only liberals have sex? No wonder conservatives are so unhappy and narrow minded...
  • BrianD3 flrdsgns 2012/01/24 12:34:45
    BrianD3
    que?
  • BrianD3 Torchma... 2012/01/24 12:34:33
    BrianD3
    well said
  • True~Male Torchma... 2012/01/28 03:18:32
    True~Male
    All kinds of professional people enjoy porn, hell my own Doctor told me it was healthy to watch porn - I like to watch Gay and straight porn -- It relives the pressures of the job .
  • Adam 2012/01/18 20:35:46
    Undecided
    Adam
    +2
    The whole industry needs shut down.
  • True~Male Adam 2012/01/28 03:19:26
    True~Male
    Why ? Because you say so ?
  • ronbo51 2012/01/18 19:35:35 (edited)
    No, we need to be protected
    ronbo51
    +4
    hollywood and LA need body condoms !!!!!!
    This guy makes body condoms , Too~!!!
    body condom from porn industry
    body condom

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