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POLL CONFIRMS REPUBLICANS IGNORANT

Poll Confirms Republicans Ignorant




Gasp! Inflammatory title! Indignation!

But seriously, Research 2000 recently did a poll of self-identified
Republicans, asking them their beliefs on a whole host of issues. There
are articles all over the place about this, and it has been in the
news, so forgive the repetition if you’ve heard this, but I thought it
worth commenting on.


I often rail against the Republican Party, since their ideas are
socially destructive. Republican politicians use xenophobia (damn those
illegals) and religion (praise Jesus, who hates pro-choicers) to
convince people that they are the best candidates, and then don’t
actually deliver any legislation on those issues (Republicans had both
chambers of Congress and a Republican president for most of the last
decade) so that they can continue using said issues to deceive. Then,
what they do is pass legislation that punishes the poor and middle
class while rewarding corporations and the wealthy.


Well, their campaign to reinforce stupidity has paid off! Take a
look at these results (apologies to Kos, whose question order I
cribbed) and feel free to either laugh or cry. Sure, it’s funny people
are so stupid and ignorant, but it’s also sad, since these people vote,
despite the lack of a viable frontal lobe. Pay particular attention to
the “Not Sure” crowd. I’ve posted some of my favorite questions, along
with some comments.


Should Barack Obama be impeached, or not?


Yes 39

No 32

Not Sure 29


Seriously? Why? This frankly makes no sense. But then again, Republicans tend not to.


Do you think Barack Obama is a socialist?


Yes 63

No 21

Not Sure 16


And what if he were? First off, he’s not. If he were, we would have
single payer health care, we wouldn’t have a Congress owned by
corporations, etc. Republicans often lump Socialist and Fascist all
together when they hurl insults. Socialism and fascism are not
compatible, dolts. Most people don’t even know what socialism is.


Do you believe Barack Obama was born in the United States, or not?


Yes 42

No 36

Not Sure 22


Really? 58% of you? There’s a birth announcement in not one, but two Hawaiian newspapers!


Do you believe Barack Obama wants the terrorists to win?


Yes 24

No 43

Not Sure 33


Yes, his election was a plot to give Osama bin Laden free reign to
destroy our country. 57% either believe Obama is pro-terrorist or
believe its up in the air. I’m having trouble even commenting on this.
I may not be the brightest man, but I can’t lower my IQ enough to
communicate on this level. What did Hunter S. Thompson call it? The New
Dumb. Sounds about right.


Do you believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be President than Barack Obama?


Yes 53

No 14

Not Sure 33


Ha! Well, that’s a legitimate belief. Come on, she couldn’t name
newspapers she read (unfair question!) and she could see Russia from
her house (great foreign policy experience).


Do you believe Barack Obama is a racist who hates White people?


Yes 31

No 36

Not Sure 33


Obviously Obama hates white people. Nevermind the fact that his mother was white. He hated her, too! Duh!


Do you believe your state should secede from the United States?


Yes 23

No 58

Not Sure 19


LET THE SOUTH GO! I’m all of the United States of New England. It would be a liberal progressive utopia.

Should Congress make it easier for workers to form and join labor unions?


Yes 7

No 68

Not Sure 25


Of course Republicans don’t want unions. Then corporations couldn’t exploit people and force wage slavery on us.


Should openly gay men and women be allowed to serve in the military?


Yes 26

No 55

Not Sure 19


Should same sex couples be allowed to marry?


Yes 7

No 77

Not Sure 16


Should gay couples receive any state or federal benefits?


Yes 11

No 68

Not Sure 21


Should openly gay men and women be allowed to teach in public schools?


Yes 8

No 73

Not Sure 19


Okay, okay. We get it. REPUBLICANS HATE GAY PEOPLE. I’m glad they
admitted it. The funny thing is, this people answering this survey
weren’t afraid to say these things. How many of them were embarrassed
enough to lie? Well, 73% of Republicans want to deny gay people a job
for being gay. That’s awesome. Obviously gay people can’t be allowed to
teach, because, what, they’ll turn your kids gay? Is there some sort of
airborne virus they carry? Discrimination. Bigotry. Republican.


Should public school students be taught that the book of Genesis in the Bible explains how God created the world?


Yes 77

No 15

Not Sure 8


Hahahahahaha! To hell with Science. Bring in the Bible! Why not dump
Astronomy for Astrology while we’re at it? Substitute Alchemy for
Chemistry?


Should contraceptive use be outlawed?


Yes 31

No 56

Not Sure 13


Do you believe the birth control pill is abortion?


Yes 34

No 48

Not Sure 18


These last three show that Republicans believe that reproductive rights are wrong, that women’s bodies are not their own.


Do you believe that the only way for an individual to go to heaven
is though Jesus Christ, or can one make it to heaven through another
faith?


Christ 67

Other 15

Not Sure 18


Obviously, if you’re a Republican Christian, you’re right and
everybody else is wrong. It’s like Steve Colbert said at the
Correspondent’s dinner a few years back, Republicans believe that every
religion is valid, Buddhism, Islam, etc., because Republicans believe
that all of them can accept Jesus Christ as their saviors.


With that kind of world view, no wonder they are so malleable when
it comes to Republican politicians, and it’s why Republican politicians
are so brilliant. Republicans believe their religion is better than
everybody elses, so all the politicians have to do is use that to get
elected.


R-Politician: I love Jesus!


Average Republican: Yay, I’m voting for that guy.


R-Politician: Jesus would want me to give tax breaks to the wealthy.


Average Republican: Yay, trickle-down economics will help me one day when things eventually possibly maybe trickle down to me!


All in all, this whole series of insights is pretty eye-opening, and
depressing. So yes, my title is a little on the rough, inflammatory
side. But it’s accurate. Reread the above evidence if you still
disagree.

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  • chaoskitty123 2010/06/23 09:58:28
    chaoskitty123
    +5
    Similar polls done by Republican groups make Democrats look like dimwits because the questions and answers are designed to make any response by the political left look incorrect because it is purposely slanted in the Republicans favor.

    All I see here are questions geared to the leftwing agenda. You know rightwingers tend to be anti gay so stack the poll with questions about gay rights. You know they tend to be religious so toss in a bunch of religious questions.

    it's like questions asking if convicted child murderers should be allowed to teach in school after serving their sentence and being shocked to see that Democrats more than Republicans say yes... does that make them stupid, ignorant or dumb... according to the way this poll is set up, it would mean Democrats are more in support of child murderers being given a second chance to kill more children.

    The poll is worthless because almost every answer could be predicted and the questions are completely biased to achieve a desired result.

    Then you have questions like this one

    "Do you believe Barack Obama is a racist who hates White people?

    Yes 31
    No 36
    Not Sure 33

    Obviously Obama hates white people. Nevermind the fact that his mother was white. He hated her, too! Duh!"

    Lol, they actually by a majority say no he isn't ...
















    Similar polls done by Republican groups make Democrats look like dimwits because the questions and answers are designed to make any response by the political left look incorrect because it is purposely slanted in the Republicans favor.

    All I see here are questions geared to the leftwing agenda. You know rightwingers tend to be anti gay so stack the poll with questions about gay rights. You know they tend to be religious so toss in a bunch of religious questions.

    it's like questions asking if convicted child murderers should be allowed to teach in school after serving their sentence and being shocked to see that Democrats more than Republicans say yes... does that make them stupid, ignorant or dumb... according to the way this poll is set up, it would mean Democrats are more in support of child murderers being given a second chance to kill more children.

    The poll is worthless because almost every answer could be predicted and the questions are completely biased to achieve a desired result.

    Then you have questions like this one

    "Do you believe Barack Obama is a racist who hates White people?

    Yes 31
    No 36
    Not Sure 33

    Obviously Obama hates white people. Nevermind the fact that his mother was white. He hated her, too! Duh!"

    Lol, they actually by a majority say no he isn't and yet look at this guys response. And then there's this one where he really shows his ignorance and hate.

    "Do you believe your state should secede from the United States?

    Yes 23
    No 58
    Not Sure 19

    LET THE SOUTH GO! I’m all of the United States of New England. It would be a liberal progressive utopia."


    By an overwhelming majority they say no states shouldn't secede and yet there Borthwick is not only trying to make it look like they support secession, but reveals his own bigotry taking a potshot at the South which even many civil rights groups say it's time to stop doing because bigotry against the people in an entire region just because they live there is just as bad as discriminating against an entire people just because they were born of a different skin color or have eyes of a different shape.

    The only thing this poll will reveal is the extreme hate and ignorance of anyone who agrees with what it says no different than the Democrats proved in South Carolina voting for Alvin Greene because they were so busy wasting their time attacking Republicans and the Tea Party they didn't educate their voting base who was running so they chose the first name on the ballot... and then there was the finding by Democratic leaders that black people voted for Al Greene because they "were more comfortable" voting for a black man. White supremists "are more comfortable" voting for a white man too... so what does that reveal about black voters.

    Why do you post topics like this which are totally based in ignorance? Is your hate for the political right so great you ACTUALLY WANT to make Democrats look even more ignorant and bigoted because they appear too brain dead to see this poll was clearly baited and even the results that show Republicans actually aren't that far removed from Democrats... this joker slams them like he found proof they're stupid when all he does is make himself look like an ignorant jackanape?

    Leave it up... let's see how many Democrats don't notice this guy reveals nothing we didn't expect or know already because if you bait the questions right and already know the answers you'll get... the only surprise you'll get is if Republicans give answers you didn't expect and a few of these questions, they actually do give answers you wouldn't expect as you'd think most Republicans believe Obama is a racist but the poll reveals the opposite.
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  • Joanne 2010/07/16 01:44:18
    Joanne
    +4
    To all of you
    IGNORANT REPUBLICAN PSYCHOPATHIC PIGS:
    ALL republicans ARE the CANCER that is destroying this great country!
    A cure must take place ASAP!

    After working for the same company for 18 years;
    because of you IGNORANT REPULICAN BASTARDS my company shut down.
    Since then, I've been getting unemployment benifits for last 7 months.
    Now it's all gone!
    Because of you IGNORANT REPULICAN BASTARDS, my unemployment benifits are gone!
    Because of you IGNORANT REPULICAN BASTARDS, my food is gone!
    Because of you IGNORANT REPULICAN BASTARDS, my house is gone!
    Because of you IGNORANT REPULICAN BASTARDS, my little one and I did NOT have
    a 4th of july holiday.
    While you IGNORANT REPULICAN BASTARDS enjoy yourselfs destroying this country,
    you have screwed up my son's life and mine!
    Does not matter how much IGNORANT BS you speak- I will NEVER FORGET,
    I will NEVER FORGIVE the damage you have caused.

    Joanne
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Joanne 2010/07/16 01:49:47
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    Cool
  • PDenoli 2010/06/29 23:27:27
    PDenoli
    You may like me... you may dislike me... but you should always trust me.

    Barely a week after I pointed out the "issues" in this thing, even Daily KOS has admitted this poll (and a bunch of others) was likely ... I'll be kind .... "inaccurate".

    Daily KOS calls it fraud, but personally I'm not going that far. I think they are over-reacting. (Fox might not be fair and balanced, but I am.)

    http://voices.washingtonpost....
  • PDenoli 2010/06/23 19:03:17 (edited)
    PDenoli
    +1
    It turns out that this was an actual poll by a legitimate polling organization. However, here are a few additional facts...

    - The questions were COMMissioned by "Daily KOS", hardly a bastion of unbiased information.

    - If it wasn't obvious from the writing, Tom Borthwick takes pride in inventing ways to skewer Republicans. Once again, the antithesis of a credible source.

    - Research 2000 takes no responsibility for the validity of the questions, question bias, or consistency in interpreting questions

    - Research 2000 has taken no position and will not take a position that the poll results have any meaning about anything at all

    - The poll intentionally omitted Democrats from the study, so we have no idea how they would respond.

    Just for grins, I've asked Research2000 to comment on Tom Borthwick's blog conclusions, and we'll see what they say about that if they get back to me.
  • PDenoli PDenoli 2010/06/23 19:14:27
    PDenoli
    +1
    Research 2000 (http://www.research2000.us/) sent me an e-mail reply.

    I asked if they had knowledge of, or had participated in a study concerning the ignorance of either Republicans or Democrats. I've also sent them Tom Borthwick's blog post. And? Here is the response...

    From: daliresearch2000
    Sent: Wed 6/23/10 2:52 PM
    Re: Question from Pat Denoli‏

    no such study at all with our firm
  • PDenoli PDenoli 2010/06/23 19:17:07
    PDenoli
    +1
    Naturally, I've asked for further clarification of this. I presume they mean they have no affiliation with Tom's opinions that have been sprinkled through the survey materials, but how hilarious would it be if either DailyKos or Tom Borthwick either made this up or fudged the numbers? F-ing hilarious.
  • PDenoli PDenoli 2010/06/29 23:23:17
    PDenoli
    OH! And who is right once more? That's right... ME.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs...
    Markos charges polling fraud - Ben Smith: Markos charges polling fraud
    June 29, 2010

    "We contracted with Research 2000 to conduct polling and to provide us with the results of their surveys. Based on the report of the statisticians, it's clear that we did not get what we paid for. We were defrauded by Research 2000, and while we don't know if some or all of the data was fabricated or manipulated beyond recognition, we know we can't trust it. Meanwhile, Research 2000 has refused to offer any explanation. Early in this process, I asked for and they offered to provide us with their raw data for independent analysis — which could potentially exculpate them. That was two weeks ago, and despite repeated promises to provide us that data, Research 2000 ultimately refused to do so. At one point, they claimed they couldn't deliver them because their computers were down and they had to work out of a Kinkos office. Research 2000 was delivered a copy of the report early Monday morning, and though they quickly responded and promised a full response, once again the authors of the report heard nothing more."

    Guessing whether pollsters simply concoct their data — it's cheaper, and more likely to please a client l...
    OH! And who is right once more? That's right... ME.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs...
    Markos charges polling fraud - Ben Smith: Markos charges polling fraud
    June 29, 2010

    "We contracted with Research 2000 to conduct polling and to provide us with the results of their surveys. Based on the report of the statisticians, it's clear that we did not get what we paid for. We were defrauded by Research 2000, and while we don't know if some or all of the data was fabricated or manipulated beyond recognition, we know we can't trust it. Meanwhile, Research 2000 has refused to offer any explanation. Early in this process, I asked for and they offered to provide us with their raw data for independent analysis — which could potentially exculpate them. That was two weeks ago, and despite repeated promises to provide us that data, Research 2000 ultimately refused to do so. At one point, they claimed they couldn't deliver them because their computers were down and they had to work out of a Kinkos office. Research 2000 was delivered a copy of the report early Monday morning, and though they quickly responded and promised a full response, once again the authors of the report heard nothing more."

    Guessing whether pollsters simply concoct their data — it's cheaper, and more likely to please a client looking for a specific result — is a parlor game among — is a parlor game among political consultants. That's what Markos Moulitsas is charging here.
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  • PDenoli PDenoli 2010/06/29 23:24:13
    PDenoli
    But wait... there's more!!

    http://voices.washingtonpost....
    "It's war! Lawyer for DailyKos details lawsuit against Research 2000"

    Okay, I just got off the phone with a lawyer for DailyKos, and he gave me a bunch of interesting new detail about the lawsuit Kos is going to file against the polling outfit Research 2000.

    The gist: This is likely to be a serious lawsuit that is going to flush a lot out into the open, and prompt a serious discussion about what news orgs should be doing to vet polling data they commission.

    In case you missed it, DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas today revealed that he was preparing to sue Research 2000, which Kos has commissioned polling from for years. Kos said a trio of statistics experts dug into their polling and concluded that much of the polling "we ran the past year and a half was likely bunk."

    Kos's lawyer, Adam Bonin, tells me:

    1) The lawsuit will be for breach of contract, fraud, and negligent misrepresentation, and will be filed in the Northern District of California, where Markos is based.

    2) This goes beyond the trio of experts that Markos cited today. Bonin says that they took their findings to "other experts in statistics and polling," and that they agreed with the analysis finding the polling to be highly questionable. This underscores the se...







    But wait... there's more!!

    http://voices.washingtonpost....
    "It's war! Lawyer for DailyKos details lawsuit against Research 2000"

    Okay, I just got off the phone with a lawyer for DailyKos, and he gave me a bunch of interesting new detail about the lawsuit Kos is going to file against the polling outfit Research 2000.

    The gist: This is likely to be a serious lawsuit that is going to flush a lot out into the open, and prompt a serious discussion about what news orgs should be doing to vet polling data they commission.

    In case you missed it, DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas today revealed that he was preparing to sue Research 2000, which Kos has commissioned polling from for years. Kos said a trio of statistics experts dug into their polling and concluded that much of the polling "we ran the past year and a half was likely bunk."

    Kos's lawyer, Adam Bonin, tells me:

    1) The lawsuit will be for breach of contract, fraud, and negligent misrepresentation, and will be filed in the Northern District of California, where Markos is based.

    2) This goes beyond the trio of experts that Markos cited today. Bonin says that they took their findings to "other experts in statistics and polling," and that they agreed with the analysis finding the polling to be highly questionable. This underscores the seriousness of the charge.

    3) The president of Research 2000 promised Markos in an email that the firm would divulge all of its data supporting the polling conclusions sold to DailyKos, but never followed through, Bonin says. He adds that a June 14th email from Research 2000 president Del Ali to Markos says: "As far as I'm concerned you can have all the raw data."

    "They handed us fiction and told us it was fact," Bonin charged. "It's pretty damn clear that numbers were fabricated, and that the polling that we paid for was not performed."

    Research 2000 chief Ali rejected the charge that anything is amiss. "I will tell you unequivocally that we conducted EVERY poll properly for the Daily Kos," Ali told the Post's polling director, Jon Cohen.

    Kos' lawyer, for his part, rejected the idea that DailyKos should have shown more skepticism about the polling. "This was a reputable polster who had done polling for a number of other organizations," he said. "This is about defending the Web site and defending our readers from a fraud that was perpetrated on them."
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  • The Gov-Here to help BN362 2010/06/23 18:13:55
    The Gov-Here to help BN362
    +1
    Your OPINION piece is mis-leading and full of crap.. Nice job.

    I guess you think that Democrats have the market cornered on intelligence.. That's funny, real funny.. Yep.. they continuously show it with their.. unforeseen consequences whenever they change the rules.. Why is that??? Because their ideology does not work.. It consistently backfires and destroys EVERYBODIES freedom to help the few. Doesn't sound too freakin' intelligent to me.

    Why don't you quit your devisive crap??? There is no difference between the r and the d as far as government goes and as far as the people we ALL want the same things.. The media has trained you to think they do not.. You believe it.. and that makes you ignorant.

    Whatever.. Get a grip.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ The Gov... 2010/06/23 18:18:11
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    That's because you RWNJs never know what to do with facts.
  • The Gov... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2010/06/24 23:30:02
    The Gov-Here to help BN362
    I have plenty of facts.. You have nothing but ideology and emotion.. Big difference sunshine!

    PS Not republican or democrat so f*** off!
  • PDenoli ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2010/06/29 23:29:19
    PDenoli
    Facts are good. Here's some to consider:

    http://voices.washingtonpost....

    ...with sincere apologies for congratulating myself.
  • U Pit The Gov... 2011/07/24 19:51:00
    U Pit
    +2
    You know, if you omit the second paragraph, you just about have it right.
  • santa6642 2010/06/23 16:16:07
    santa6642
    +2
    what BS
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ santa6642 2010/06/23 17:52:42
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    Brilliant speech? I'd have to agree.
  • PDenoli 2010/06/23 16:06:55
    PDenoli
    +2
    Wow. The logical, statistical, and factual errors in this post are too numerous to rebut without someone paying me to take that much time out of my day. Would it suffice to call it a blatantly partisan pile of dog vomit? No, that's just name-calling and that's no way to win a debate. How about this...

    1) The vast majority of all Americans are politically ignorant. This is due to the udder failure of the public education system to teach civics without drifting into AFT/NEA political talking points.

    2) The vast majority of the questions and answers on this list are based on opinions and there is no right or wrong answer. Simply mocking someone's opinion shows your ignorance and not theirs.

    3) Mocking people's religious views - while popular among the lefties - is still a form of bigotry and ignorance, but bigotry (and violence) is never wrong as long as the lefties find it funny or it supports their cause.

    I could go on, but this coffin only needed three nails since the ideas were so small.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ PDenoli 2010/06/23 17:53:06
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    prove it with credible links.
  • PDenoli ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2010/06/23 18:07:59
    PDenoli
    +2
    Prove it's not self-evident.

    I've already played this game with you where I shovel source after source. You reject each one without defending why, offer no contrary evidence, and steadily change the topic. That's not a debate it's waste of time.

    If you want to be sincere and have a debate, I'm game. But before I waste my time playing "wrong rock", how about defining what you will accept as credible?

    The terms are simple - you define credibility in a way that isn't inherently biased (e.g. "Only use NEA-funded studies"). If I accept that definition and cannot find a source, I'll admit I can't prove my point. If I accept that definition and find a source that fits it, you'll admit that I've proved my point.

    If you think that's fair - accept my terms and give me your definition to consider.
  • vicb626 2010/06/23 15:33:24 (edited)
    vicb626
    +2
    Obviously republicans have been mistaken about Mr. Borthwick, this poll makes it clear that he is definitely one of the most (like our President) intelligent men in the world, and his opinions and those of progressives like him should be revered, not questioned. How did we ever survive without their insights and guidance to this point is mathematically astounding. The inner machinations of your mind are an enigma to a simpleton such as I. So what place does a old school conservative have in your perfect world order Tom, how much of what I believe in needs to be suppressed to be in agreement with your ideology? Will you still tolerate my Judea/Christian belief system, or for the sake of progress will I have to check that at the door as well? Just to be sure complete assimilation is achieved, can you think of anything else I can do to avoid being labeled an idiot (it hurts my feelings Tom)? By the way, was this poll posted on SH? I would very much like to verify it's existence (one of those archaic pesky traits I have, sorry). Thanks again Tom for setting us all straight, I can sleep easy tonight knowing you've got it all figured out.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ vicb626 2010/06/23 17:53:48
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    Don't feel badly that you're a simpleton, most RWNJs are.

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