Police Shoot Suspect’s Dog In Street *GRAPHIC* Who's to blame? the dog owner or the police?

SK-pro impeachment 2013/07/03 18:43:43
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unedited video: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2353347/Police-shoot-...

Well if you're blasting your radio for the whole neighborhood and with police present... you might be a creepy ass dumbass (probably the part they didn't show is the dumbass smarting off to the cops when they asked him to turn it off or down or even asked him to leave the scene.)

If your walking around with an 80 pound Rotty and getting to close and interfering with a police investigation... you might be a creepy ass dumbass

if you lock your dog in the car with the windows down... you might be a creepy ass dumbass.

if your a reporter and pick a cop hating liar to interview... you also might be a creepy ass dumbass.

I think the police were justified in protecting themselves in this situation as opposed to the situation that happened a couple of weeks ago in TX.
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  • Transquesta 2013/07/03 18:46:18
    None of the above
    The police were at fault. Period. The police are entrusted by society with the power to restrain, maim and if necessary kill with relative impunity. The onus of being responsible and better disciplined than the citizenry is on THEM.

    In this case, though, the dog got shot trying to protect its owner--who was being rousted by police on bogus charges.

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  • MisterOriginal 2013/07/16 04:54:43
    cops should have done something else to stop the dog
    Wow! I thought I was going to choose pro-cop before seeing the video!

    That's sad!
  • Lady Nemirstības 2013/07/04 14:51:14
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    The owner was at fault. Mainly because he didn't have the dog secured. While the owner did nothing illegal, it was still irresponsible.
  • gldynmd BTO-t-BCRA-F 2013/07/04 05:15:34
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    I was afraid to watch the video. Sorry, I can't handle stuff like that. =o(
  • SK-pro ... gldynmd... 2013/07/04 05:54:09
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    Understandable, it was pretty horrific.
  • Freight85 2013/07/04 04:31:56
    cops should have done something else to stop the dog
    Many cops are cowards with guns, for instance, there was a situation in Los Angeles about 10 years ago where a cop killed a homeless woman wielding a screwdriver. If you are that scared/threatened by a woman with a screwdriver you shouldn't be a cop. As a trained police officer you have: mace, a baton and self defense training. I guess the police academy hasn't established the class entitled: "how to harness the punk b--tch in you when on patrol" yet huh?
  • Jesse 2013/07/04 01:32:52
    None of the above
    The cops had no right to even stop the dog owner. What he was doing (recording) is not illegal.
    I hope the cops rot in hell for killing a magnificent dog.
  • Kat ♪ ~ ♪ 2013/07/04 00:14:42
    dog owner is to blame
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    Sounds like he likes to antagonize the cops.
  • SK-pro ... Kat ♪ ~ ♪ 2013/07/04 00:20:45
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    That's exactly what it looked like.
  • Kat ♪ ~ ♪ SK-pro ... 2013/07/04 00:29:15
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    He already has a suit against the cops and a long rap sheet and just happens to be there harassing them, with a large dog he obviously wasn't just walking with his car right there he had just parked, and someone just happened to get it all on tape.. very convenient.
  • Jesse Kat ♪ ~ ♪ 2013/07/04 01:39:49
    That's not illegal. The cops over-reacted.
  • Kat ♪ ~ ♪ Jesse 2013/07/04 01:43:45
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    It's not smart and he got his animal killed.
  • Griegg 2013/07/04 00:06:42
    dog owner is to blame
    It was his responsibility to secure the dog. Leaving it loose in the car with the windows down doesn't accomplish that.
  • Brendakp 2013/07/03 23:59:59
    dog owner is to blame
    He shouldn't have left the window down in the car. What a dummy.
  • SK-pro ... Brendakp 2013/07/04 00:06:05
  • Ed 2013/07/03 23:22:36 (edited)
    None of the above
    Oh that pisses me off. That hurts that should have never happened. That makes this grown man cry.

    First off I am one to more times than not give the police the benefit of the doubt. Wearing blues is like wearing a target in today's America. There is little to no respect for the badge regardless of the reasons for it. It is a hard job.

    1) The dog owner is definitely not to blame, no reason what so ever to blame him.

    2) At the point when the dog charged the officer to protect his owner there was nothing else that officer could have done differently, it's too late.

    3) Still there is no justification for the scene to have developed the way it did, the cops were wrong.

    The man was doing nothing wrong, that was not obstruction of justice if that is what they will charge him with. There is nothing wrong with filming officers in action nothing illegal. One of those officers lost his cool period. He got upset at being filmed and decided to put an end to it instead of going on with doing what he was there to do.

    That poor animals death is the officer's fault that decided to stop doing what he was supposed to be doing to arrest the man taping them. I can't see it any other way.
  • frank 2013/07/03 22:02:12
    cops were justified in protecting themselves; that's why they have guns. What...
    I don’t care how you look at it, it’s a sad ending. To me it did like the dog was going to attack the officer.
  • SK-pro ... frank 2013/07/03 22:08:04
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    almost got one of the hands. that's when they were forced to shoot.
  • Gregaj7 2013/07/03 21:33:19
    dog owner is to blame
    One black man, check
    One very sizable dog with known protective tendencies, check
    Three cops that are not black, check
    Black man filming cops doing what they think is their job, check
    What could possibly go wrong.
  • Captain 2013/07/03 21:25:46
    None of the above
    Both parties are to blame. The owner put himself in that situation through his peaceful protest but didn't take into account that it wasn't just his life he was playing with. The officers escalated the situation by A) not creating a cordon and B) handcuffing the owner who had broken no laws warranting being detained/arrested.

    People have the right to harass, slander, insult and be rude to the police but they do not have the right to return that type of expression. As a civil servant you are obligated to serve the people and rise above such juvenile taunts.

    However, once the dog attacked, the officers were within their rights to kill the dog. A warning shot would have worked just as good, but the officer made an on the spot decision.
  • SK-pro ... Captain 2013/07/03 22:01:37
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    actually he posed a threat by the way he approached towards the officers. then it appears the guy wanted to get arrested for who knows what reason.
  • Captain SK-pro ... 2013/07/03 22:40:59
    If you watch the video the guy is proclaiming that the cops are violating civil rights and that he is video taping the whole thing. As he starts to leave, putting his dog in the car, the officers yell for him to come to them. He follows their orders, turns around and prepares to be arrested. He was a dumbass, but he violated no laws. The officers should have had the maturity to disregard his attempts to agitate them but instead they decided to escalate the situation.
  • SK-pro ... Captain 2013/07/03 22:49:06
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    Cops will never tell a perp to come to them in that manner. they will usually tell them to stay where they are. the only time i have ever seen or heard of a cop telling them to come to them is when they have their hands on their heads and walking backwards.
  • Captain SK-pro ... 2013/07/03 22:54:29

    Watch the video with your sound up. Do you see anything in there that justifies the police arresting him? You can clearly hear the police ordering him to "come here".
  • SK-pro ... Captain 2013/07/04 00:13:11
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    The music was way loud. he shouldn't have walked near the police squad cars. everyone else was being cool and on the other side of the street this guy was being a nuisance, they had a right to be suspicious. The guy video taping called him a goon, he even said he can't hear anything. No you couldn't hear the cops say anything. you heard what you wanted to hear. As i said the music is louder than what the cell phone audio could actually record.
  • Captain SK-pro ... 2013/07/04 00:21:21 (edited)
    He is allowed to call the police officer a goon. He could call them every racist, disgusting term in the book and they would have no right to arrest him. There are verbal assault laws but that only applies if they can be interpreted as threats.

    He is allowed to be near a police officer and/or their vehicle if there is no cordon or verbal warning which there wasn't.

    California Vehicle Code 27007 makes it illegal for play music in a vehicle that can be heard fifty feet away or more. The camera person was no more than 20 ft away and I doubt you could hear it from 50 ft away. Even if it was, it's an infraction and not subject to arrest.

    There was nothing to be suspicious about a guy holding a camera. Should they have arrested a news crew because they have a camera? or are you saying he was suspicious because he was a black man with a camera?

    Nothing he did justified the police even approaching or responding to him except to REQUEST that he PLEASE leave the area IF they had authorized a cordon.
  • SK-pro ... Captain 2013/07/04 00:23:52
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    He was referring to the goon with the dog.
  • Captain SK-pro ... 2013/07/04 00:33:12
    And he is allowed to say that.

    I agree that the dog's owner set this in motion, but the officers should have had the restraint to resist the man's attempts to provoke them.

    The man wanted to make a public statement on what he believed was a civil rights violation. The police responded to his taunts and escalated the situation to the point that the dog had to be killed.
  • SK-pro ... Captain 2013/07/04 00:37:04
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    wow! that's just plain dumb. your entitled to your almost humorous but not quite opinion.
  • Captain SK-pro ... 2013/07/04 14:36:24
    And you are entitled to a police state.
  • SK-pro ... Captain 2013/07/04 16:17:18
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    not everything is a conspiracy.
  • Donatello 2013/07/03 21:10:08 (edited)
  • SK-pro ... Donatello 2013/07/03 22:02:13 (edited)
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    no that's not why they arrested him. watch the unedited video in the second link, if you have not.
  • Donatello SK-pro ... 2013/07/04 07:55:10 (edited)
  • SK-pro ... Donatello 2013/07/04 16:20:26
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    I'm sure the racist who took the video edited it. He probably watcched enough MSM bs to know just how to edit. But he failed to make the cops look stupid and only slightly less of an idiot.
  • Donatello SK-pro ... 2013/07/04 20:49:02
  • goatman112003 2013/07/03 20:36:28
    cops were justified in protecting themselves; that's why they have guns. What...
    Cops are paid to go in harm's way but not paid to get hurt.
  • Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2013/07/03 20:34:16
    cops should have done something else to stop the dog
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    They(cops) should have made sure the dog was secure before arresting and manhandling his master. Of course he's going to try to protect him! Stupid cops!!

    That video has been all over the local news and it's quite horrific IMHO!

    Another city (under the umbrella of Los Angeles) police officer shot a family's dog while it was fenced in its yard and had no way of harming the officer. Fortunately the family had a surveillance camera that caught it on video or the cop would be walking away from it free & and clear but now she won't be!!
  • Donatello Quietma... 2013/07/03 21:11:36
  • Quietma... Donatello 2013/07/03 21:15:29
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    I wanted to mention her gender on my other story because I think a lot of ppl just assume that the cop is always a male and to show that the 'good old boy' attitude isn't just relegated to men, it’s pervasive throughout the police family.
  • SK-pro ... Quietma... 2013/07/03 22:05:46
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    That happened here in TX a couple of weeks ago. cop walking into a backyard trying to serve a traffic warrant after their was no answer at the front door. the dog he shot was a service dog, thank God it lived. the ppl were actually home and a 6 yr old girl was nearby. on top of that the constable had the wrong house.

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